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louder 01.09.2015 03:29 PM

that outro is everything.

getting my hopes up about that album now.

h8kurdt 01.10.2015 04:27 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...etter-with-age

Thought this might interest you guys here. No mention of Ghostface oddly enough though.

Severian 01.10.2015 10:22 PM

Some people always make their verses count. I can't claim to fully "get" Theophilius London, but even on that weirdass mofo's album, Kanye contributes the kind of show stealing verse that might as well be a mating call announcing the coming of Yeezy season to his fans.

Srsly, I've been yowling and flopping around on the floor and sticking my ass in the faces of other Yeezy fans since I heard it.

(Too much?)

louder 01.11.2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Is anyone else excited for the 01/20/15 release of B4.DA.$$?

just heard the singles.. fucking fire yo. need this ASAP!

louder 01.11.2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...etter-with-age

Thought this might interest you guys here. No mention of Ghostface oddly enough though.

unfortunately i disagree. most rappers seem to become uninspired, stale and.. simply uncool as they get older, just like aging rock stars. of course there are a few exceptions though.

noisereductions 01.12.2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
unfortunately i disagree. most rappers seem to become uninspired, stale and.. simply uncool as they get older, just like aging rock stars. of course there are a few exceptions though.


agreed.

There are of course exceptions, but generally as a genre there seems to be a majority of rappers who are more creative, more willing to take chances, and just try harder when they're younger.

Some exceptions that come to mind, tho...


Ghostface, of course. I pretty much feel like his career has been nothing but an up-swing for the last decade.

MF Doom is a dude who got better w/ age. I mean I like KMD and all, but after coming out of hiding DOOM got better and far more creative.

Jay-Z... his debut aside, I honestly feel like the 2nd half of his career is far more interesting than the first. Or put it this way, I think if all 3 volumes of Lifetime, Street Is Watching sndrk and the Roc-La-Familia album never existed, and he came out in 2001 w/ The Blueprint as his first album, I'd have been fine w/ that.

Sean Price: (see MF DOOM above)

louder 01.12.2015 01:52 PM

Wayne is an interesting case.. dude's start wasn't spectacular, he was pretty generic back then. but after a few years he started getting insanely good, got to a point where he peaked with his creativity and technical skill, then degressed. but still, if you compare Wayne as we all know him today to his debut, it's like two different people.

louder 01.12.2015 02:10 PM

fun fact: Eminem and Snoop Dogg don't even remember recording their debuts because they were too drugged out. so perhaps one could argue it wasn't even them. they both had Dr. Dre's guidance though.

drugs seem to have been a big influence on Em in general. back then he was quite the character, right? now he's extremely reserved.. when i saw him on TV when he promoted MMLP2 he seemed really anxious. poor guy.

noisereductions 01.12.2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Wayne is an interesting case.. dude's start wasn't spectacular, he was pretty generic back then. but after a few years he started getting insanely good, got to a point where he peaked with his creativity and technical skill, then degressed. but still, if you compare Wayne as we all know him today to his debut, it's like two different people.


But even Carter 2 era Wayne was still young.

louder 01.13.2015 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
But even Carter 2 era Wayne was still young.

true. and he's still way younger than Jay/Nas/Ghost/etc. it's easy to forget cuz he's basically been around forever haha.

louder 01.13.2015 06:10 AM

Wayne just dropped the first remix off Sorry 4 the Wait 2, he disses Cash Money on the song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7m5NlfQKjew

this is heat. this feud might turn out to be the best thing that happened to him in recent years.

Severian 01.13.2015 09:58 PM

And of course Kanye... 10 years in and he's still riding a peak that never ended.

I guess 808's was considered a "hiccup" in that peak for many listeners at the time of its release, but it didn't take long for an entire sub-genre of hip-hop (Drake, Future, Travi$ Scott) to emerge out of that single album's style.

I'd also say that Jay-Z has grown better with age. His worst records since coming out of retirement have been better than most of the albums that give birth to Stars these days. He's unstoppable.

Severian 01.16.2015 10:29 PM

Sooooo...

I have this now:
 


Been listening for a minute.
Real talk: the only thing I'm not digging is the cover. I think some of the fan variants and WEIRDASS alternate versions that pop up in spades when you search google images (while this comes up, like, twice) are way more iconic.

This looks like a mixtape cover, and mixtape covers suck.

But I'll he fucked if it's not BETTER than I expected.
NR you're going to flip your shit!

Also, I like the fact that Joey Bada$$, A$AP, and Underachievers all seem to have mad love for each other's music. WHAT AN EPIC FUCKING TOUR
LINEUP THAT WOULD MAKE!!

Anyway, totally best hip hop albim of the year so far (hah!)... But oddly I think it's chances of remaining in the top tier are fairly high. This is a future classic.

FINALLY, Joey Bada$$ breaks out of the hip hop purgatory known as mixtape-only land. (Or something more clever)

Severian 01.17.2015 12:39 AM

What the..? No jealousy? No Envy?

I know it's only few days before the official release, but I've been foaming at the mouth for this thing since Sunmer Knights & Indigoism blew me the fuck away and I started foaming at the mouth for major label releases from these and other "Beast Coast" representatives.

This is huge, guys! And the record fucking legitimately slays to boot.

louder 01.17.2015 05:46 AM

^^^ yeah Joey's debut is fire. i expected a good album but i didn't expect it to be better than "1999"! HOLY SHIT!!

and i agree that the cover art is wack.

noisereductions 01.17.2015 09:35 AM

I'll be listening to this on Tues when it drops on Spotify. I really am excited. I thought Summer Knights was great.

louder 01.17.2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I'll be listening to this on Tues when it drops on Spotify. I really am excited. I thought Summer Knights was great.

you have all the reasons to be excited. this album is gonna be on repeat for a while.

louder 01.17.2015 01:42 PM

Wayne's "Sorry for the Wait 2" trailer & snippet: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mV-YRl3c6cg

 



honestly sounds beautiful.. coming Tuesday. wow i can't wait!

louder 01.17.2015 01:55 PM

the download will be available here: http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes...he-wait-2.html

noisereductions 01.17.2015 05:24 PM

Awesome!


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