You should look into Mermaid Avenue, their Guthrie covers records with Billy Bragg. That’s classic folk music stuff.
And their first album is contemporary folk/alt-Country

But yeah, most of it isn’t proper folk.

Personally my favorite Wilco album is “A Ghost is Born,” which has some wild shit on it. Not wild like early SY or fucking Throbbing Gristle or some shit, but wild for a band that made its name with sort of middling indie folk.

The only albums I really return to are that, “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot” because I was in college and the right demographic for that when it came out, and “Being There,” which hits the spot from time to time.

Live, they play a mean, feedback-drenched show. Like SY doing Americana. Only definitely not as good.

"Hey guys, it's-a me, Wilco. Remember that time I covered Rod Stewart's, Do Ya Think I'm Sexy? Y'all ever listen to Alex Jones? I'm a big fan, but also antifa for life lol I make no sense. Remember my 80's synth band? We heavy metal now. Rob Zombie stole my gimmick. I wish I were Trent Reznor instead. Man I suck these days. Come on sugar, tell me soooo"

I have the same boots as uncle Al, but at least I'm not making unwise choices like touring with Carpenter Brut and guaranteeing myself humiliation via openers upstaging me and being more relevant etc.

Ouch, that's rough lol. Ministry used to be so good too. ESPECIALLY Twitch era Ministry - dear lord.

I actually saw him at Riot Fest last year, he opened for NIN and New Order. As much of a joke as the dude's become, I'd be lying if I were to say I didn't tear up the pit when they played Thieves and Just One Fix.

Dude. :mad:

Also because it’s great, but if it came out now, and my thirty-(seemumle)-year-old ass heard it, I probably wouldn’t be quite as taken with “I’m the man who Loves You” or swept off my feet by the loveliness of “Poor Places.”

I didn’t mean JUST because I was in college though.

I meant it more of, like, well... I like Nirvana *because I was a teenager in the ‘90s.* Yeah? Yeah.

Facetiousness? Or "fite time" again?

Severian, you're forgetting that it's against the forum's rules to enjoy music based on nostalgia. Just ask our resident bisque supremacist.

I already blocked you, but I read this on the e-mail notification and I had to come back ("Just when I thought I was out...") to point out the complete insincerity and hypocrisy of your little-bitch "Ooohhh, seriously Soup, I'm so sorry, I really really apologize" HORSESHIT from last week or whenever the fuck it was.

hahahaha

this i already pointed at in my previous comment that we’re discussing POPULAR music.

this is shit we hear on the radio, on commercials, at parties, while fucking, after getting dumped, while celebrating, driving to places, drunk, hangover, sway in his bathtub, at train stations, when angry, while laughing, through a broken speaker, in smoke filled rooms, over traffic noise, while arguing with a partner, running or at a gym, i.e. in real life not in a special conservatory of precious preciousness.

any presumption that we must feel this music independent of the fabric of our lives is absurd.

sure there is a place for, i dont know, detached musicology, and analysis, and whatever. but this is not how popular music is experienced.

and if im gonna get into “music appreciation” id much rather avoid a snobbish twat and do it with someone FUN, like this awesome person:

https://youtu.be/p_IHotHxIl8

this is a lovely lovely video series. highly addictive! ENJOY. which is what it’s all about. the one about giant steps blew my mind.

Whoah.

Chill bros.

Don’t block each other. Nobody here is that one guy who only shows up to criticize people once a year or whatever and is like 22 so knows nothing.

Let’s heal this wound!
(Lol wound)

So... this is kind of unfair, and also... 97% sure it’s not an actual quote.

It’s like you’re confusing him with Ryan Adams or something.

*looks around for NR... sees no NR*

Cuz fuck Ryan Adams, amirite?

I apologized to you because I had thought it was my bi-polar disorder which made me originally snap at you. Then I realized you're the only person here I've ever personally had a problem with. Turns out you really are a dickwad.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put my ear directly up to Chelsea Wolfe's anal cavity and experience that true lossless fidelity as she fills my tympanic membrane with her fecal dump. It's too bad you blocked me, or I'd let you join. Keep repeating your unavailing life cycle of posting highly compressed Youtube streams of benign tunes all over this site and then belittling others for listening to Spotify though. mmfwcl

Haha yeah I've actually seen this one before. It really is an impressive feat they've pulled off with that song. It's ironic you posted that here, as Radiohead is another band I listen to via flac... just in case I miss a fraction of a sound vibration or something lmfao. I may not always hear the difference but I like knowing its all there jic.



Noise and I are buds elsewhere on the internet. He left because of the elitist attitude of dudes like Soups which sucks all the fun out of discussing music on this site.
I'm starting to remember why I had also originally done the same.

Jesus man. I *thought* he and I were friends too, but he just took off.

And I’ve actually defended him on issues like this countless times, and encouraged him not to take shit from smarmy elitist fucktoads (NOT talking about Soup Nazi here — I don’t know what’s up with you guys, but I’m confident it can be worked out).

Although... I have also on occasion been a smarmy elitist fucktoad and busted NR’s balls for listening to, like, BUSH, when there was a new Kendrick Lamar album out. BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY...I still thought we were buds. Tell him to PM me.

He didn't cite anyone in particular, and I don't necessarily have any issues w/ Soup Nazi either. We seem to be very different kinds of people though. I just like talking smack, and reeealllly can't stand the elitist attitude in any art discussion whatsoever.

I did tell Noise you were asking about him, he said you were a cool dude but he's just sort of over this place. I'm sure he'll spring back up eventually. We all do.

Not good enough fuck that basic ass nerd.

(Lol jk)

Dr Fecalson, please avail yourself of the next available mirror

Fite-time was a joke.

It’s not fite-time.

Let’s not fite fite fite.

Unblock each other and let’s work this thing out.

I’m here all...

Shit I’m literally at work. Gotta go.

lol i didn't block anyone. i knew "fite time" was a joke. as were a lot of the things i said. i've always been a bit of an ass on these boards, just look at my user notes.

it's fine lol, i spend more time on my black metal & shoegaze discord channels these days anyhow.

the elitist attitude is central to the art world unfortunately. art is usually made by outsiders who after being marginalized by society have no better idea than to create exclusionary circles off their own marginalization.

then come the students, and the aspirational middle classes, and the rich patrons, to signal their aesthetic virtue to the rest of the herd by participation in these circles, and kurt eats lead pellets.

the anthropological question for me is—do the elitists enjoy art for whatever they find in the art itself? or is it more for the ego gratification of thinking they are one of the special few with access to the secret society of esoteric knowledge? i think probably both, but there are also a lot of people for which it’s mostly the second—the precious precious posers.

either way, humans are insufferable apes. can’t way till they’re all extinct. :D

That's actually a lovely assessment. It sorta blows my mind just how superficial nearly everything about society is.

Like you could say, "Yes, this painting is absurdly photo-realistic." That painter would truly be validated by the perfection of their craft, and objectively a better artist than most, but where is the emotion in a realist landscape, yknow?

On the other hand, someone like Captain Beefheart farts into a tin can and everyone gathers around to sniff it, inflating their ego by getting high off his butt fumes. Is it because they're able to appreciate something which others are not? Does the same feeling apply to guilty pleasures? Are all art fans just failed intellectuals, or are they onto something more? What matters most, objectivity or subjectivity? Fact or emotion? Black/white or shades of grey? Emotion or logic? Yin or yang?

Does any artist truly not do it for the money? Aren't all advertisers failed artists, and all artists wishing to make it big?

I just don't get it lol. Consider me a philistine also, I guess.

consider me a palestinian.

i was just coming to edit the original post. i said “it’s probably both” but i think it’s more of the second than anything.

the human hunger for status is as voracious and ruthless as any other appetite after all.

so that basic human need is gonna take precedence over the more “refined” impulses 9 out of 10 times.

the #1 impulse is always “what hot shit i am, look at me looking at this”. lol. join the elite, shun the rest, look for the next level.

and then, if true refinement is achieved—what is refinement, but more of the same? art is pornography, ha ha ha. we’re just machines.

anyway, speaking of refinement and status, did you watch fox and his friends yet? posted you a note in the movie thread cuz my inbox is packed to the gills 50/50.

There's only 2 seeders on the torrent client I use.

Waiting for one of 'em to sign back on so I can get shit rolling again.

(clear your inbox llol)

I know, man, I know. And I also know you dug the Captain America gif. :)


Right you are.

Fuckin’ bet your ass. Iron Man can suck it. Cap’s the HEART AND SOLE of those movies. Eat a dick Tony Stark, ya occasional debilitating drunk!

o man

was looking forward to this when i spotted it



tried it twice

really could not like it

maybe some people here will

there are little things here and i that are pleasing but mostly i got bored :(

To be fair to Stark, the Cap cannot get drunk due to what they did to his, uh, molecular structure or summat, so...

FUCK THAT ITS CALLED WILLPOWER STARK!

#teamcap #its2016again #wouldntthatbegreatactually? #goingbacktospring2016foradayortwo—whisperingafewt hingstohillaryandbernie?

I'm not done with 2018!

Laurel Halo released a new 12"/EP/3-track thingumybob last month, Tru/Opal/The Light Within You:

https://laurelhalo.bandcamp.com/albu...ght-within-you

Also last month, Housewives released a new song, "Speak To Me". Blank Editions' blurb is rather... heavy-handed:


https://blankeditions.bandcamp.com/

https://housewivesband.bandcamp.com/track/speak-to-me

I think you misunderstood me — what I meant is the guy literally cannot get drunk, no matter how much he drinks. It's on The First Avenger, goddammit!

No, I understood because I know more about Captain America and all comic-book characters than you or anyone in your family will EVER know...

But Movie Cap’s inability to get drunk doesn’t negate Stark’s dumbasssloppy drunkitude. Ya feel me?

I was the one who misunderstood indeed. :o But it's that bloody phone of yours, man — I thought you had tried to type "is" but you tried to type "it's" but your phone typed "its" but fuck it.

Yeah, I’m hating the phone thing. But I’m always fucking running around, so it’s the only way to do anything.

My top 50 albums:


‎50. Peter Brötzmann/Heather Leigh - Sparrow Nights ‎
‎49. Mournful Congregation - The Incubus Of Karma
‎48. Body/Head - The Switch
‎47. The Sea And Cake - Any Day
‎46. Sandro Perri - In Another Life
‎45. Arvo Pärt - The Symphonies
‎44. Hot Snakes - Jericho Sirens
‎43. Hifiklub & Lee Ranaldo - In Doubt, Shadow Him!‎
‎42. Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs ‎‏-‏‎ King of Cowards
‎41. Mirrors for Psychic Warfare - I See What I Became - Best Industrial
‎40. Windhand - Eternal Return
‎39. Bardo Pond - Volume 8‎
‎38. Gruff Rhys - Babelsberg
‎37. Deafheaven - Ordinary Corrupt Human Love
‎36. JOYFULTALK - Plurality Trip
‎35. Wolvennest -Void
‎34. The Men - Drift
‎33. Cypress Hill - Elephants on Acid - Best Hip Hop
‎32. Kikagaku Moyo - Masana Temples - Best Artwork (see picture above)
‎31. No Age - Snares Like A Haircut
‎30. Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want - Best Noise Rock ‎
‎‎29. Jerusalem In My Heart - Daqa’iq Tudaiq - Best Global
‎28. Messa - Feast For Water
‎27. Louise Landes Levi - Ikiru or The wanderer
‎26. Ariana Grande - Sweetener - Best Pop
‎25. SUMAC - Love In Shadow
‎24. Mary Halvorson - Code Girl
‎‎23. Idles - Joy as An Act of Resistance ‎
‎22. The Necks - Body
‎21. Mildred Maude - CPA I-III - Best Debut ‎
‎20. Mary Lattimore - Hundreds of Days
‎19. Mythic Sunship - Another Shape of Psychedelic Music - Best Psych (Duh)‎
‎18. Eleanor Friedberger - Rebound
‎17. Nat Birchall - Cosmic Language - Best Spiritual Jazz
‎16. ASG - Survive Sunrise
‎15. Courtney Barnett - Tell Me How You Really Feel - Best Rock
‎14. U.S. Girls - In a Poem Unlimited - Best Indie
‎13. Wrekmeister Harmonies - The Alone Rush
‎12. Emma Ruth Rundle- On Dark Horses
‎11. The Ex - 27 Passports - Best Punk
‎10. Mamaleek – Out of Time
‎9. Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour
‎8. Lubomyr Melnyk - Fallen Trees
‎7. Infinite Music - Tribute to La Monte Young
‎6. Tim Hecker - Konoyo
‎5. Julia Holter - Aviary
‎4. Yob - Our Raw Heart
‎3. Maria Faust - Machina
‎2. Sleep - The Sciences
‎1. Anna von Hausswolff - Dead Magic

All right, that's progress right there. :D By the by, the fact that you "know more about Captain America and all comic-book characters than [ I ] or anyone in [my] family will EVER know" (which I don't dispute) is a pretty small feat — I mean, my family doesn't know jack about Captain Rogers. They don't even know the guy fought the Nazis. Hell, forget that, they couldn't even pick him out of a lineup even if the rest of the lineup were all Hulks.

ANYWAY, before the year ends, let's acknowledge how crazy fucked up it is that we never even mentioned this one on this thread:



I for one dug it. I know you're probably gonna say YAH WELL where's my 10-disc Sign "☮" The Times box, but this is such a spirited performance, the Purple One running through songs brilliantly in a situation which could otherwise have birthed a completely bland and irrelevant recording since he's not even trying to fill a B-side or anything. Top shit, man.

ETA: Plus, Joni cover — what more can you ask for.

Yes yes yes re: Code Girl

Best new/most anticipated albums 2018
 

Stalker. Sometimes they get confuzed but for the most part they try and flank you and take cover when needed. They also call for help when injured.