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Severian 05.17.2016 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/...coloring-book/

Highest score this year, along with the new Radiohead (which I think they overrated a bit). Well deserved.


Yeah, even higher than Pablo, for fuck's sake! Which I MIGHT agree with on a strictly song by song basis simply because of Pablo filler like "I love Kanye", but I do think it's a stretch. Coloring Book is to Pablo what Pusha's MNIMN was to Yeezus. I don't think we'd have the album as it sounds or exists without Kanye's to set the tone. Also, I don't think this album has anything that's as musically extraordinary as Famous, Real friends or (especially) Fade.

Still, that's gotta be the highest rating they've ever given to a "mixtape." Correct me if I'm wrong, but not even golden era Wayne (Dedication, Draught) came close to scoring so high.

Whatever though. S'all good.

And yeah, they definitely overrated A Moon Shaped Pool a bit/lot. Both TLOP and Coloring Book are much better. Radiohead should have been given an 8.1-2 at best. Just my opinion.

Severian 05.17.2016 08:30 AM

What the hell was p-fork thinking when they wrote this pullout, though?

Quote:

Quote from Pitchfork's Kris Ex:
Chance the Rapper's Coloring Book is one of the strongest rap albums released this year, an uplifting mix of spiritual and grounded that even an atheist can catch the Spirit to.


Ok... Where to begin. With the comma splice? The reference to the project as an album? The clunky phrasing? ("Mix of spiritual and grounded..." what, chief? Dying to know, over here.) Or the fact that this tagline run-on sentence ends with a *fucking* preposition?

To be fair, I understand what the writer is saying in that last bit; that, essentially, you don't need to be religious to be moved by the album. But it sounds like he's saying that you can "catch the Spirit" (that should be a lower case "s," boss, unless you're referring to the Holy Spirit, which, last I checked, was not contagious) to the record. As in, while listening to the record.

I think he means that we can all appreciate the artistic spirit of Chance's new music. But it sounds like he's talking about a fucking dance called "Catch the Spirit" that can be done to the "album."

Long story short, this is really lazy, bullshit writing. I should know. I do so much lazy, bullshit writing every day. But this would never make it past a proofreader, or even a grammar check, in my world.

Severian 05.17.2016 08:33 AM

Obviously, I should put my money where my mouth is, and submit some reviews to Pitchfork to see if I can do any better. But that's probably not going to happen. I'd rather write for Newsarama. For free.

Anyway, Coloring Book is not an album, but it's my second favorite album of the year so far. I have so much more to say about it. I thank the lord that there's another hip-hop record that's strong enough to get me jacked the fuck up about music this year. I thought my load had been blown for me early on.

louder 05.17.2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
What the hell was p-fork thinking when they wrote this pullout, though?



Ok... Where to begin. With the comma splice? The reference to the project as an album? The clunky phrasing? ("Mix of spiritual and grounded..." what, chief? Dying to know, over here.) Or the fact that this tagline run-on sentence ends with a *fucking* preposition?

To be fair, I understand what the writer is saying in that last bit; that, essentially, you don't need to be religious to be moved by the album. But it sounds like he's saying that you can "catch the Spirit" (that should be a lower case "s," boss, unless you're referring to the Holy Spirit, which, last I checked, was not contagious) to the record. As in, while listening to the record.

I think he means that we can all appreciate the artistic spirit of Chance's new music. But it sounds like he's talking about a fucking dance called "Catch the Spirit" that can be done to the "album."

Long story short, this is really lazy, bullshit writing. I should know. I do so much lazy, bullshit writing every day. But this would never make it past a proofreader, or even a grammar check, in my world.

Hahahahahaha!

louder 05.17.2016 12:06 PM

"Tryna turn my baby mama to my fiancée. She like music, she from Houston like Auntie Yoncé."

louder 05.17.2016 12:08 PM

I have Coloring Book, Lemonade and We Are KING on top of 2016 right now. I love every single song on those albums and consider them perfect. Then there's Malibu which is nearly perfect as well but Anderson .Paak is still relatively new and his best is yet to come, so I'd like to give him one or two more albums to fully evolve. And then there's Blackstar which I find incredible but extremely sad due to the circumstances so I can't listen to it often.

Oddly enough, untitled unmastered. is out of my top 5, although Kendrick is my favorite rapper and To Pimp a Butterfly killed 2015 for me. It's still a great project, it only goes to show how dope 2016 has been.

noisereductions 05.17.2016 08:59 PM

looking fwd to Coloring Book hitting non-Apple services.

Severian 05.18.2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
I have Coloring Book, Lemonade and We Are KING on top of 2016 right now. I love every single song on those albums and consider them perfect. Then there's Malibu which is nearly perfect as well but Anderson .Paak is still relatively new and his best is yet to come, so I'd like to give him one or two more albums to fully evolve. And then there's Blackstar which I find incredible but extremely sad due to the circumstances so I can't listen to it often.

Oddly enough, untitled unmastered. is out of my top 5, although Kendrick is my favorite rapper and To Pimp a Butterfly killed 2015 for me. It's still a great project, it only goes to show how dope 2016 has been.


Kanye
Chance
Beyoncé
Polly Jean
Pampa vol. 1
Kendrick
Moderat
Radiohead
Big Ups
Kaytranada

I actually think this year's been pretty motherfucking slow all things considered. Especially in hip-hop. But this handful of high quality releases is holding my attention pretty well. Blackstar too.

louder 05.18.2016 12:04 PM

Kinda slow in terms of hip-hop, yes, but R&B has been blessing me.

It's pretty crazy that the main 3 hip hop artists of the decade: Kanye, Kendrick and Drake all put albums this year, yet no one of them made it to my top 5.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.18.2016 01:19 PM

I dedicate hit em up to my grad advisor who is the first person i have sincerely loathed with a spiteful and sinful passion since my partner in crime robbed me ten years ago

Fuck her. Glad I'm done. Good riddance. And yes, i will be filing several official written compaints with the university. God willing someone will finally reprimand this bitch.

 

louder 05.18.2016 01:44 PM

"Dishes smashed on my counter from our last encounter
Pictures snatched out the frame
Bitch, I scratched out your name and your face
What is it about you that I can't erase, baby?"

Rob Instigator 05.18.2016 02:07 PM

anyone can freestyle using slant rhymes.

WACK

louder 05.18.2016 04:17 PM

Those were Beyonce lyrics, not a rapper's. And I feel like my heart is stabbed repeatedly when I listen to that song. But anyway, honestly who cares about rhyming anymore? If I was looking for that in rap music, I'd be listening to Eminem all day. Great rappity raps for the sake of rapping, yes, but he's still an uninteresting artist who talks about nothing on his songs. Hip hop has changed and people don't rap the same way as in the 80's or the 90's or even the 00's, deal with it.

Severian 05.18.2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I dedicate hit em up to my grad advisor who is the first person i have sincerely loathed with a spiteful and sinful passion since my partner in crime robbed me ten years ago

Fuck her. Glad I'm done. Good riddance. And yes, i will be filing several official written compaints with the university. God willing someone will finally reprimand this bitch.

 


Hey congrats man! You're done with grad school? Fuck yeah, bro!

And grad advisors are the worst.

guest 05.18.2016 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
Kinda slow in terms of hip-hop, yes, but R&B has been blessing me.

It's pretty crazy that the main 3 hip hop artists of the decade: Kanye, Kendrick and Drake all put albums this year, yet no one of them made it to my top 5.

have you heard the new alexandria ep on awful? produced by and featuring a bunch of those guys, even better than her earlier full-length and ep from a couple years back. like a more club-geared aaliyah, fuckloads of sub and alexandria floating on top of it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7t5fIVH48

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.18.2016 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Hey congrats man! You're done with grad school? Fuck yeah, bro!

And grad advisors are the worst.

Yes. Three weeks

Severian 05.18.2016 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Yes. Three weeks


Fucking serious congratulations, my friend. Respect.

louder 05.19.2016 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guest
have you heard the new alexandria ep on awful? produced by and featuring a bunch of those guys, even better than her earlier full-length and ep from a couple years back. like a more club-geared aaliyah, fuckloads of sub and alexandria floating on top of it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7t5fIVH48

Yeah she's cool.

Severian 05.19.2016 09:53 AM

Wait, louder, fucking DRAKE is your #3 favorite hip-hop artist of the past decade? Really man? What about Rocky? What about Danny? What about Push? Or Killer Mike/Run the Jewels? What about CHANCE for that matter?

I know we're all prone to flipping and flopping a bit over time, but as a guy who actually does appreciate some of Drake's music, I still can't fathom how or why anyone would prefer him to these guys.

Also, what's up untitled unmastered. falling out of favor? It's really not a true album. It's a mini-LP to tide us over, and I think it has moments that go just as hard as TPAB.

louder 05.19.2016 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Wait, louder, fucking DRAKE is your #3 favorite hip-hop artist of the past decade? Really man? What about Rocky? What about Danny? What about Push? Or Killer Mike/Run the Jewels? What about CHANCE for that matter?

I know we're all prone to flipping and flopping a bit over time, but as a guy who actually does appreciate some of Drake's music, I still can't fathom how or why anyone would prefer him to these guys.

Also, what's up untitled unmastered. falling out of favor? It's really not a true album. It's a mini-LP to tide us over, and I think it has moments that go just as hard as TPAB.

No no no man, you got it all wrong. I said he's one of "big 3" overall. I wasn't talking about my own preference. If you ask everyone about their favorite rapper of the current decade, most will say Kendrick or Drake or Kanye, you know how it is..


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