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SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kinn
hey guys. i found something that can unite us all together, deerhunter lovers and haters alike.

what do you get when you take - 1 group of idiots with synths + crack addiction + hipsters and journos who know how to hype?

you get the death of fucking music.

i shouldn't laugh, because in the last few moments of their lives, when these idiots die of their crack addictions, they will look back on the "good times" and be so utterly disgusted and embarrassed as they remember this performance their brains will just send the message "fuck it, just stop beating dude" to their hearts.


hahahahaha.


this is fucking awesome.

Skuj 12.05.2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dazedcola
I think deerhunter is just severely overrated. I saw him on conan last week doing "helicopter" and it was just really boring and apathetic. He's not that good of a musician or songwriter and his music is just all so slow and depressing.


I will say that doing Helicopter on Conan (first tv bit?) was a bit worrisome for me, because that song is somewhat unique on HD....a bit ballady, radio-friendly and Pet Shop Boys, hahaha.... People who rush to buy Deerhunter because of Helicopter will be going "wtf?"


















I will also say that I was a bit on edge last night.

automatic bzooty 12.05.2010 06:07 PM

lol, salem. lol forever.

SMOKE YA OUT TILL A GHOST COME OUT YA MOUTH

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by automatic bzooty
lol, salem. lol forever.

SMOKE YA OUT TILL A GHOST COME OUT YA MOUTH


Redlights is actually a really good song but what the fuck is with Jay on a crack binge rapping and shit? It's god-awful.

kinn 12.05.2010 06:09 PM

U Sey Abit Bishaum, U Sey Am Alaone, U Sey Ahm In Es Ishun, A Sey Ahm Na Hoame, U Sey Ahm Itsitshun, Ahm A Shee Ahm A Shee

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kinn
U Sey Abit Bishaum, U Sey Am Alaone, U Sey Ahm In Es Ishun, A Sey Ahm Na Hoame, U Sey Ahm Itsitshun, Ahm A Shee Ahm A Shee


you should write the liner notes. it'd be far more accurate than what I imagine they claim to be saying.

kinn 12.05.2010 06:13 PM

he sounds like fuckin ali g

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kinn
he sounds like fuckin ali g


ali g with a heroin problem

kinn 12.05.2010 06:17 PM

is jsut fugknig retradard

keep poppin pimples 12.05.2010 06:37 PM

glad to read that informative article, it brought up some points that my years of reading articles hadn't brought to light

like the fact that white kids are never "from" chicago, i ignorantly assumed that some of the white kids from a massive city where whites are the largest racial group where "from" there

thanks to indie rock journalism i now know they're in the city for the drugs and transit

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.05.2010 06:43 PM

Hahaha aja this Salem band... ahahaha ahahaha. Hahaha omfg hahaha

wow

hahahahj

holy shit

wow

The Levi's and Guitar Center sponsorships are just too good to be true.

Oh man "redlights" hahaha hahaha just as good.

hahaha oh fuck wow

Thanx kinn

good lookin

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.05.2010 08:04 PM

Oh gee...

I think I might be in love with this group now.

The studio version of "tair" is actually sorta fresh.

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Oh gee...

I think I might be in love with this group now.

The studio version of "tair" is actually sorta fresh.


Yeah, dude. I hear that.

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 08:13 PM

Their Gucci remixes are pretty sweet too. Bird Flu & My Shadow especially.

all white bricks bricks

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 08:29 PM

this is now the official salem thread. I'm so glad pitchfork gave these guys a 7.1. That means it's okay to like them.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.05.2010 08:30 PM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SpaceCadetHayden again.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuu uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h

First legit guilty pleasure in a very, very long time.


That Gucci mix was pretty sweet. I absolutely love the studio version of tair. Sounds like a dirty south, heroin-injected Dalek.

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SpaceCadetHayden again.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuu uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h

First legit guilty pleasure in a very, very long time.


That Gucci mix was pretty sweet. I absolutely love the studio version of tair. Sounds like a dirty south, heroin-injected Dalek.


Yeah, dude. I'm seriously downloading their discog now. Tair is the best track I've heard yet. And that's the same Jay from Clerks-looking dude? Awesome. I mean, I certainly wouldn't see them live, but that dirty grimy southern shit is, well, my shit.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.05.2010 08:34 PM

Honestly, I'd rather hear this than over 95% of the shit on the radio.

The pitch-altered vocals, and the better mixed vox/ambience ratio totally makes the difference. That live video was a load of doodoo.

Thanks again kinn

Good lookinn

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 08:38 PM

http://beemp3.com/index.php?q=fuckt&st=album

A whole bunch of there mp3s are available here for free if you don't feel like torrenting everything they got.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.05.2010 08:38 PM

w3rd

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 08:41 PM

Yeah, kinn. <3 you, bro.

keep poppin pimples 12.05.2010 10:06 PM

how much better is a 7.1 than a 7?

keep poppin pimples 12.05.2010 10:19 PM

Editor's Note: This review contains a list of the various names that have been used to describe the music of SALEM and/or other similar artists, among them "drag" and "witch house." It originally also listed "rape gaze", a term coined by Michigan band CREEP, as formerly listed on their MySpace and reported in the New York Press. The band today disowned the phrase and will no longer be using it, expressing to The Village Voice, they "would never want to advocate sexual violence against any human being. It was a play on words which we never expected to be used as an actual genre."




so evidently pitchfork tried to namedrop a non-existent genre with a despicable name in an attempt to be hipsters, then decided to remove the term rape-gaze...not because it's innapropriate or because it isn't a real genre, but because other hipsters(in this case a presumably shit musical formation) decided it was innapropriate and not a real genre

SpaceCadetHayden 12.05.2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
Editor's Note: This review contains a list of the various names that have been used to describe the music of SALEM and/or other similar artists, among them "drag" and "witch house." It originally also listed "rape gaze", a term coined by Michigan band CREEP, as formerly listed on their MySpace and reported in the New York Press. The band today disowned the phrase and will no longer be using it, expressing to The Village Voice, they "would never want to advocate sexual violence against any human being. It was a play on words which we never expected to be used as an actual genre."




so evidently pitchfork tried to namedrop a non-existent genre with a despicable name in an attempt to be hipsters, then decided to remove the term rape-gaze...not because it's innapropriate or because it isn't a real genre, but because other hipsters(in this case a presumably shit musical formation) decided it was innapropriate and not a real genre


they wouldn't be hipsters if they didn't follow other hipsters, broseph.

nicfit 12.06.2010 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinn
hey guys. i found something that can unite us all together, deerhunter lovers and haters alike.

what do you get when you take - 1 group of idiots with synths + crack addiction + hipsters and journos who know how to hype?

you get the death of fucking music.

i shouldn't laugh, because in the last few moments of their lives, when these idiots die of their crack addictions, they will look back on the "good times" and be so utterly disgusted and embarrassed as they remember this performance their brains will just send the message "fuck it, just stop beating dude" to their hearts.

i disliked this band before i saw that video which was the first time i've ever heard them. i disliked them because of this puke inducing article

Nestled among deliberately amateurish photos of blowjobs and hipster junkies at the Museo Universitario del Chopo was a cluster of photos entitled “Hidden Valley.” Ugly teens rode BMXs, fucked around with paintball guns, popped pills and smacked one another with a stick in a barren field between a parking lot and a housing development. Suddenly, in the middle of Mexico City, I was back at home in the suburban wastelands of the Midwest. I knew this “space of anarchy” well; not specifically of course, but generically, and absolutely. Away from parents, teachers and cops, Hidden Valley is the type of place you can experiment with adolescent stupidity as you futilely resist the first onset of Middle America ennui.

I think the wastoids in Salem know it too. They’re officially from Chicago, but I know better. White kids are rarely “from” Chicago. Instead, they’re usually refugees from crappy Midwestern suburbs and dying towns, desperately in search of culture but finding only public transit and better drugs. Salem’s music—a hazy, loping, lo-fi electro—fits that rudderless Rust Belt existence as guilelessly and artlessly as a glassy stare. I can’t say it’s good per se, but it speaks to me. And probably others—there are many of our breed, born under Reagan into a world where our destinies have already been mortgaged. Not “no future” in the cool Johnny Rotten rallying cry sense, but “no future” in that withdrawn, hopeless, Gummo type of way. Not sexy or cool. Not even sad. But maybe a little scary.

This is why the music of Salem speaks more to me than that of more polished, professional and literate indie bands to which my white college-educated self should be demographically attracted. Instead of presenting a simulacrum of a time when people believed that rock could offer world-altering truth, change hearts and minds, and soundtrack youthful romances, Salem delivers the starkness of what neoliberalism has left us—drugs and death. Instead of nostalgia, whether painful or idealized, you’ve got numbed verses like “It’s hard to remember / What we did last November.” There’s not even any sex: Salem’s music is too slow for the club and too weird for the bedroom. As Holland says, “Sex has nothing to do with making music,” and anyway, the antidepressants have robbed him of his libido. I think Salem’s conscious of the distinction between their music and the more entitled upper middle class fantasies of their peers. At a disastrous show for the privileged Twitterati of SXSW, they played their music from a recording while smoking a cigarette in front of footage of a car-crash. This isn’t simple épater le bourgeoisie, it’s more inward-focused and nihilistic than that. When the ruling class is as insulated and unresponsive as it is today, why bother with a fuck you? Might as well get high.


YEAH CUZ OF NEO LIBERALISM LETS SMOKE CRACK AND EXPRESS OUR 'ARTISTIC' BOREDOM. COZ ITS LIKE. IF WE DARED TO HOPE, OBAMA WOULDN'T LISTEN MANNNN.

epitome of hipster bullshit.


I dunno, I love Water and Frost Eps, the album isn't bad either imo, in that live vid seems pretty obvious to me that the sound guy who recorded the tracks messed things pretty good, sounds like a BAD soundboard recording, I honestly doubt you can say it's their fault.
That said, there's a good chance they suck live anyways, but that's true for loads of band who make records.

Besides, I can't think of anything more hipsteric than getting your opinions on a band you never heard influenced by hipster articles and use a badly recorded youtube video as an evidence to prove your point. :p

"teh tube says am rite!"

p.s. lemme add their stage presence is almost at Romeroic levels.

nicfit 12.06.2010 05:27 AM

Oh, yeh, watched Conan, Deerhunter at the end, kinda liked some of the "sounds" but the song was nothing too special.
Creepy singer. Lots of smoke on the stage.

ann ashtray 12.06.2010 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Dude....wtf? He seems like a wonderfully nice fellow to me, but really I don't give a fuck.....it's about the music, Man.....the music!!!


I've been fortunate enough to see Bradford a total of 3 times. Twice after a show (Deerhunter), once wondering around an Atlanta record store (Criminal Records) before a Sonic Youth gig that was to take place later that night. Only spoke with him after those two Deerhunter shows....and he was super nice. Was very talkative and thankful for the support. Should also add that this was several years ago ("Turn It Up, Faggot" was new at the time), before the band blew up, and his demeanor may be a bit different now (honestly, I wouldn't know).

I'm not a serious fan, but I've read a few interviews. He comes off as being blatantly honest when he discusses his life, medical condition (marfan syndrome), sexuality, etc. I can appreciate that.

I honestly find him more interesting than I find his music. I loved "Turn it up..", but most of everything else I've heard (including the Atlas Sound stuff) has failed in catching my interest.

Either way, I think he's a figure that will be around a while. Wouldn't surprise me if he eventually reaches an "iconic" status. He'll no doubt outlive the current "indie" trend.

Decayed Rhapsody 12.06.2010 03:10 PM

Bradford cruised me on the F train in NYC once. He was with the really cute guitarist. They got off at 34th street.

kinn 12.06.2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
Besides, I can't think of anything more hipsteric than getting your opinions on a band you never heard influenced by hipster articles and use a badly recorded youtube video as an evidence to prove your point. :p

"teh tube says am rite!"


i don't get this at all.

i disliked them both before i heard them and when i heard them.

i am consistent in my dislike.

unless you are suggesting some kind of "don't dare judge anything until you've heard it for the sake of relativism" argument which i would dismiss outright.

i dismiss things before i even read articles about them all the time.

it's called not wanting to know about shit you don't want to know about.

altho perhaps i am pyschic.

because, do you know, this is astounding, but i actually do possess the ability to determine that a band is shit without hearing their music!

i know, its insane. but look - watch - i typed "music" into google news search and the first thing that came up was http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/soundof/2011/artists/

and i know all these bands are shit without having heard them!

PYSCHIC.

kinn 12.06.2010 03:21 PM

Puh Sci Chic.

nicfit 12.06.2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinn
i don't get this at all.

i disliked them both before i heard them and when i heard them.

i am consistent in my dislike.

i dismiss things before i even read articles about them all the time.

it's called not wanting to know about shit you don't want to know about.
altho perhaps i am pyschic.

because, do you know, this is astounding, but i actually do possess the ability to determine that a band is shit without hearing their music!

i know, its insane. but look - watch - i typed "music" into google news search and the first thing that came up was http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/soundof/2011/artists/

and i know all these bands are shit without having heard them!
PYSCHIC.



So, in Salem's case, you read articles about music you already "dismissed" to find out what other people you consider hispsters think about music you don't want to listen to, and then end up listening to that music anyway to "confirm" you were right disliking them before you heard them and before reading articles about them?

lol

your psychic powers need some training.

kinn 12.06.2010 03:38 PM

what?

no. i read the article because it was linked on the authors blog which was on a list of blogs on a site i read a lot.

i didnt know what it was about till i read it.

then i found the video for that live song on another board were someone was making fun of it so i clicked.

please don't interrogate me over this.

kinn 12.06.2010 03:38 PM

Puh-sci-chic

nicfit 12.06.2010 03:41 PM

ha ha, dude, I have no beef with you, I just didn't understand the "workflow" of your dislikings.
I still don't, but who cares?

kinn 12.06.2010 03:48 PM

i have a simple system for music.

step 0 - i dont care/its shit

step 1 - is it black metal?

step 2 - is it classical or drone?

step 3 - is it the fall, skaters, hospitals, moon wiring club or ghost box related, xanopticon or caretaker?

step 4 - i dont care

step 5 - its prob shit

step 6 - its shit

keep poppin pimples 12.06.2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
I dunno, I love Water and Frost Eps, the album isn't bad either imo, in that live vid seems pretty obvious to me that the sound guy who recorded the tracks messed things pretty good, sounds like a BAD soundboard recording, I honestly doubt you can say it's their fault.
That said, there's a good chance they suck live anyways, but that's true for loads of band who make records.






no it's their fault,nothing happens within the actual music, and all that's left is a hipster rapper trying hilariously hard to sound like his voice is ten times deeper than it is, his flow is rhythmically pathetic and his lyrics are generic shit that's been done a thousand times before.....but always with a better flow,more charisma and over more interesting production


i think you can say it's their fault

keep poppin pimples 12.06.2010 04:22 PM

i'm under critical about music, i don't really care about deerhunter but i don't think they're anywhere near bad

but i have to draw line somewhere, and i've drawn it well before a deadpan hipster trying to sound like gucci mane over a synth going OooOoOOoOOoOOoOOoo with shit lyrics and no flow

kinn 12.06.2010 04:24 PM

poppler is right. the mix on that live track is bad but still the performance is fucking atrocious with or without the mix.

keep poppin pimples 12.06.2010 04:26 PM

i mean music actually made by gucci mane already sucks

so a skinny white guy who's not from the south and obviously has a much higher voice imitating him and expecting to be taken serious, that's like the nadir of music performance right there

kinn 12.06.2010 04:34 PM

nevar herd gukki mean.

cos i know its shit.

psy fucking chic y'all.


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