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OH MY GOD THIS FUCKING WEEK. It's weird how that little "voting" thing works, isn't it? During the 2016 election season, people kept saying "I DON'T CARE IF YOU LIKE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE OR NOT, FUCKING VOTE FOR HER FOR THE SUPREME COURT ALONE." Guess we were right about that! It's almost like we've READ A BOOK. And now we have to say so long, farewell, aufwiedersehen GO FUCK YOURSELF to Anthony Kennedy, whose lazy 81-year-old ass couldn't stick around just a year or two more, because guess he doesn't have the stamina of a common Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

One thing we know for sure: Trump and McConnell will get their way with regard to the new Conservative Supreme Court person before the November elections. And nobody, absolutely NOBODY in today's GOP will give a flying fuck about the hypocricy of 2016 and their (unconstitutional!) refusing to even hold a hearing for Obama's pick.

I honestly believe that McConnell is one of the worst human beings ever.

We have already seen the consequences of Obama's concession. (And make no mistake - he had an absolute right to force this because of GOP noncompliance, but he was too nice. I really think he underestimated what was to come in late 2016. Didn't we all?)

You will pay the price for decades.

Did Schumer throw in the towel already? He needs to fight this tooth and nail, even if the outcome is guaranteed. History will record that the Dems were rightfully outraged. Just saying "fuck it we can't change the outcome" will be devastating for the near future and Dem prospects.

Fuck, Chuck.....you are too nice. Jesus.

Hatefulness On The Outside = Hatefulness On The Inside

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

I always knew Tesla was a cunt but I didn't suspect you are one too until I decided to open this thread and read your posts. I wish your kids are taken away from you and you never get to see them again. You are unfunny, insensitive and a piece of shit.

This is interesting and disappointing, esp. as she's already being pitched as presidential material...didn't I predict above 'they' weren't going to let her win...hit piece #1...

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the socialist phenom also told the Washington Post "I wasn’t born to a wealthy or powerful family — mother from Puerto Rico, dad from the South Bronx. I was born in a place where your Zip code determines your destiny."

Except Ocasio-Cortez isn't quite the blue-collar champion she's branding herself as. Breitbart's Josh Caplan is out with a "fact check" on the Democratic Socialist's background - only to find she grew up in one of the richest counties in the United States.

Around the age of five, Alexandria’s architect father Sergio Ocasio moved the family from the “planned community” of Parkchester in the Bronx to a home in Yorktown Heights, a wealthy suburb in Westchester County. The New York Times describes her childhood home as “a modest two-bedroom house on a quiet street.” In a 1999 profile of the area, when Ocasio-Cortez would have been ten years old, the Times lauded Yorktown Heights’ “diversity of housing in a scenic setting” – complete with two golf courses.

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Did Schumer throw in the towel already? He needs to fight this tooth and nail, even if the outcome is guaranteed. Fuck, Chuck.....you are too nice. Jesus.

you mean schmuck schumer? what a useless neoncon sack of shit. He's another traitorous piece of shit who voted for every version of the Patriot Act.
But maybe thats not part of your template thinking!

Wow, I imagine there is a single word in German to express awe, wonder, incredulty, pride and grit - you guys did it, I really doubted it could happen but the poor campers and their sad dogs have all been helped, we can do it! The encampment is cleaned up and the wandering dopefiends are no longer passed out sprawled on the sidewalk with their eager puppies pulling on leashes secured 'round their unconscious human's ankles. Anything more said would just be babble but for all the anger and disinformation marketing going on here, this board really can unite under the Sonic Youth banner and get it done. We should be proud. Thank you all.

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Pretty much every day I walk to work west on East 6th Street, across Cooper Square, past the dipshit twins playing badminton in the middle of the sidewalk next to Cooper Union, past the cube in Astor Place, to the uptown at Broadway at 8th St, and I see at least a dozen caucasian dopers sleeping under the building scaffoldings all over the neighborhood, and in the restaurant stairwells, they migrate to Starbucks to use their bathroom and sleep in the front rooms, there are usually a half dozen or so spread out around astor place; they are the campers with their sad dogs, a new code for dope user, dressing like a camper with their template camo colored rags pieced together and sad dog. And when I say dope, I mean heroin or other hard opiates, not weed, but they're probably also polyabusing meth and coke and alcohol and dope and then they od and the taxpayer gets to pick up after them. I generally only see white people sleeping on the street and networked young white junkies with their smart phones begging at curbside with their precious emotionally gripping signs - the campers get up to work during the day - there is a circuit among campers that knows they can come to Manhattan and Brooklyn and make enough from panhandling and stealing amazon packages from lobbies to pay for their dope and smart phone - I think the only reason the East Village won't be flooded with campers this summer is because the rest of the country is so heavily flooded with dope from China and Afghanistan and Latin America that the dopers don't need to join the campers here with the relatively easy and consistent supply historically of hayron in NYC. I'm without respect for the campers - I could give a fuck if they shoot dope through their eyeball, just don't make everyone else involved - because they always, everytime, without exception, leave their cardboard and other garbage behind. that someone else will clean up. Its kind of interesting because I've read most of the useful heroin books: WS Burroughs, Alexander Trocchi, Iceburg Slim, Donald Goines, Jim Carroll, Herbert Huncke, etc.. Maybe these campers are messing with meth too. But any of you are welcome to come to East 6th Street and help the junkies. They are there right now with their sad dogs as you read this, I guarantee it. You could help the junkies under the scaffolding on 2nd Ave and East 6th and then pop into Mighty Quinns for some roasted meats! The junkies are still there now suffering. Won't you help. The immigrants are going to do fine, they aren't lying around the streets of New York begging and stealing and doing dope like the white people are. thank you and coffee.

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this is awesome

http://www.trumphotels.org/

US ambassador to Estonia resigns in frustration over Trump

And he's not the only one

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(CNN)The US ambassador to Estonia is resigning in frustration with President Donald Trump's comments about, and treatment of, European allies.

James D. Melville Jr.'s resignation, first reported by Foreign Policy magazine, makes him the third ambassador in the last year to leave the State Department early. He is among many senior State Department officials who have headed for the exits or been pushed toward them since Trump assumed office.
In a statement, a State Department spokesperson confirmed Melville's departure.
"Earlier today, the United States' Ambassador to Estonia, Jim Melville, announced his intent to retire from the Foreign Service effective July 29 after 33 years of public service," the statement read in its entirety.
Melville's resignation comes at a time of acutely heightened tension in an alliance that, before Trump's election, had been one of the most solid, reliable and interconnected US relationships.
But Trump's attacks on NATO members, his trade tariffs against EU nations, his rejection of the Iran nuclear deal and the Paris climate agreement and his attacks on leaders such as German Chancellor Angela Merkel have cast a pall over US ties to Europe.
Many European officials are wary about Trump's mid-July visit to the NATO summit in Belgium. Those officials there fear that Trump's meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin after NATO will look like the friendlier encounter in comparison.
"The transatlantic relationship, which all around the table we consider a given, is not a given," a European diplomat told CNN. "We now have a major crisis."

'It's time to go'

Foreign Policy quoted from a private post on Melville's Facebook page in which the seasoned diplomat referred to the President's comments about Europe in explaining his decision to retire early.
"A Foreign Service Officer's DNA is programmed to support policy and we're schooled right from the start, that if there ever comes a point where one can no longer do so, particularly if one is in a position of leadership, the honorable course is to resign," the magazine quotes Melville's post as saying. "Having served under six presidents and 11 secretaries of state, I never really thought it would reach that point for me."
"For the President to say the EU was 'set up to take advantage of the United States, to attack our piggy bank,' or that 'NATO is as bad as NAFTA' is not only factually wrong, but proves to me that it's time to go," Melville said in the post.
The announcement of Melville's departure was followed by that of Susan Thornton, Trump's choice to be the nominee to be assistant secretary for East Asian affairs, later on Friday.
Two State Department officials said Thornton notified staff in an email today that she is retiring in July.
The officials said Thornton, a well-respected career diplomat who has been doing the job in an acting capacity since Trump took office, was notified she will in fact not be the nominee and she decided to retire.
Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson pushed very hard for Thornton's nomination amid intense pushback from conservatives on Capitol Hill and hardliners in the administration.
Secretary of State Pompeo tipped his hand on Thornton about a month ago during testimony on Capitol Hill, in which he said he would be making announcements on personnel, including a top diplomat for East Asia, signaling Thornton was no longer going to be considered for the post.
State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said the administration was grateful for Thornton's two-and-a-half decades of service.
"We particularly appreciate her dedication to Department and interagency colleagues, her extraordinary leadership, especially as Acting Assistant Secretary over the past year and a half, and the personal example she set as an embodiment of the best qualities of a Senior Foreign Service Officer," Nauert said in a statement. She added that Pompeo is moving forward with efforts to nominate someone for the key position.
The duo is only the latest foreign service officer to leave in a department where the senior ranks have been deeply depleted and even rising stars have resigned rather than serve the President.
In November, an award-winning US diplomat based in Nairobi wrote then Tillerson a blistering letter saying that the Trump administration had diminished the influence of State Department with its preference for military solutions.
Elizabeth Shackelford wrote that "despite the stinging disrespect this Administration has shown our profession," the State Department's diplomats "continue the struggle to keep our foreign policy on the positive trajectory necessary to avert global disaster in increasingly dangerous times."

'Traditional values ... betrayed'

In her resignation letter, Shackelford told Tillerson that she "would humbly request that you follow me out the door."
In January, then-US Ambassador to Panama John Feeley resigned over differences with the Trump administration, saying in his resignation letter that "as a junior foreign service officer, I signed an oath to serve faithfully the President and his administration in an apolitical fashion, even when I might not agree with certain policies."
"My instructors made clear that if I believed I could not do that, I would be honor bound to resign. That time has come," wrote Feeley.
Once he had left office, Feeley was less circumspect in a scathing oped in the Washington Post, saying that he had "resigned because the traditional core values of the United States, as manifested in the President's National Security Strategy and his foreign policies, have been warped and betrayed."
In March, another career diplomat, then-US Ambassador to Mexico Roberta Jacobson, announced her decision to step down amid increased tensions between the US and Mexico that's due in large part to Trump's incendiary rhetoric about the country, its citizens and its trade relationship with the US.
A few days after her announcement, the White House delivered the equivalent of a slap, excluding Jacobson -- who served as ambassador until May -- from a meeting in Mexico City between Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner and President Enrique Pena Nieto.

Moog Asks Customers to Protest Trump Tariffs

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The North Carolina-based synth company states it will likely have to make layoffs, possibly move overseas due to new policy

Moog synth photo by Olly Curtis/Future Music Magazine via Getty Images

The Trump administration recently began imposing new tariffs on steel and other imported products. Earlier this month, it announced an additional 25% tariff increase on electronic components and tech goods from China. Various American manufacturers, including Harley Davidson and General Motors, have warned the tariffs will threaten American jobs. Now, North Carolina-based synthesizer manufacturer Moog has issued a similar statement to its customers, urging them to call their representatives and ask for the tariff to be reconsidered before it goes into effect on July 6.

“These tariffs will immediately and drastically increase the cost of building our instruments, and have the very real potential of forcing us to lay off workers and could (in a worst case scenario) require us to move some, if not all, of our manufacturing overseas,” the letter reads. “We ask that you will support us by imploring our elected officials to recognize that these tariffs are seriously harmful to American businesses like Moog.”

Great posts. More MAGA in the fields, too...soybeans, which have been burbling along at $1100 for about a year down to 850. Last ships loads before 25% tariffs imposed are approaching Chinese delivery ports right now....that’s a business of $12 billion a year now, let alone the ancillary transport barging/rails/storage/stevedoring jobs. BTW, prices were $1500 to 1800 under Obama, but he was a black Muslim socialist, huh farm belters? Steady price erosion of 16% so far under Trump.

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Originally Posted by ilduclo

...soybeans, which have been burbling along at $1100 for about a year down to 850.

I shorted SOY a few months ago $$$$

John Lewis:
" Do not get lost in a sea of despair. Be hopeful, be optimistic. Our struggle is not the struggle of a day, a week, a month, or a year, it is the struggle of a lifetime. Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble."

Leonard Pitts Jr.:

You’ll seldom find a more compelling example of that willful blindness than this. To approve the travel ban, after all, the Court had to take Trump at his word that it was based in national-security concerns and had nothing to do with his animus toward Muslims. And the Court did. It put aside overwhelming evidence of religious bigotry. It even put aside the fact that Rudy Giuliani says Trump told him he wanted to ban Muslims and was seeking “the right way to do it legally.”

Sonia Sotomayor:

“[A]t a rally in South Carolina, Trump told an apocryphal story about United States General John J. Pershing killing a large group of Muslim insurgents in the Philippines with bullets dipped in pigs’ blood in the early 1900s.”

“In March 2016, he expressed his belief that “Islam hates us. … [W]e can’t allow people coming into this country who have this hatred of the United States … [a]nd of people that are not Muslim.’

[Trump] called for surveillance of mosques in the United States, blaming terrorist attacks on Muslims’ lack of ‘assimilation’ and their commitment to ‘sharia law.’ ”

It's July 1st. I live in Canada.

Happy Thank-Fuck-I-Live-Here-Day.

PS: Enjoy those tariffs that took effect today.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

This woman is the last shred of decency left on that Putrid petri dish of a party:

Susan Collins says she won't support a Supreme Court nominee who's hostile to Roe v. Wade

More: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWpScE l6TWpJQU1FWGkzdW4yMG9hVnNLQUFQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Where did the GOP go? It's the Trump party now.

It's amazing to watch Trump videos/media, and see how his Flunkies act around him. It's almost like the shit we see coming out of North Korea.

Pence is on record as being very strongly against Roe-Wade right? Will he get his way? How many millions of Evangelicals are there, who will look the other way as Trump is Trump, as long as he does their bidding? This is the main reason for Pence being VP, isn't it?

Fuck Religion. (Crucify me now.)

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Originally Posted by hairs missing

Top-ranking democrat Joe Crowley, who many thought was poised to become the next speaker of the house, has just been defeated by progressive challenger and democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio Cortez in an enormous upset:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...imary-new-york

Her platform:

- Medicare for all
- Housing as a human right
- A federal jobs guarantee
- Gun control/assault weapons ban
- End private prisons
- Immigration justice/abolish ICE
- Public financing of elections
- Restore Glass Steagall
- Mobilizing against climate change

I feel SOMEWHAT optimistic for the first time since the 2016 Sanders campaign... Thanks to the people of New York's 14th district. Now please vote for Cynthia Nixon in September :cool:

ALSO, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez happens to be quite the looker. Not that that has anything to do with this. But still. Just sayin'.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in just a short time is just the reinvigoration Democrats need, and the fact that the Democratic leadership has not celebrated her win is just another example of how the Democratic leadership will always shoot themselves in the foot always sticking to the center. Young voters are excited for Ocasio-Cortez in a way they haven't been since Obama, and if they continue to act like her win is a fluke and she's not worth championing they will continue to lose to shitty Republican candidates.

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez in just a short time is just the reinvigoration Democrats need, and the fact that the Democratic leadership has not celebrated her win is just another example of how the Democratic leadership will always shoot themselves in the foot always sticking to the center. Young voters are excited for Cortez in a way they haven't been since Obama, and if they continue to act like her win is a fluke and she's not worth championing they will continue to lose to shitty Republican candidates.

Indeed. By the way, her last name is actually Ocasio-Cortez. And if it weren't hyphenated, it would be Ocasio. That's how it rolls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming...spanic_America

Michelle Wolf "If you see Kellyanne Conway, I am so, so sorry for you. That means you're going to die in seven days"

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

This woman is the last shred of decency left on that putrid Petri dish of a party:

Susan Collins says she won't support a Supreme Court nominee who's hostile to Roe v. Wade

More: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen

well, not really, it's just a charade. The candidates will say "I can't tell you how I'd vote, since I don't have any case testimony or evidence yet, and I always respect previously decided cases." Yeah, sure, just like they respected
the Abood decision in Janus vs AFSCME (and what a good name that is for the 2 faced asshole)

btw, TSN ---The Soup Nazi has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

woohoo! Dutch Prime Minister is visiting Trump today and he had the guts to say NO:

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05 P.M. EDT PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, thank you very much. It’s a great honor to have the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. That’s the official title.
PRIME MINISTER RUTTE: Absolutely.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Sounds very elegant and beautiful. But it’s a great honor to have you. We’ve worked together and have a very, very close relationship. I think the relationship with the Netherlands has never been better than it is now.
We’ll be meeting over the next two weeks, again, at NATO.
PRIME MINISTER RUTTE: Absolutely.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: And we’ll be discussing that today also. And we are discussing trade and the EU and lots of other things.
Tremendous numbers are coming out of the United States and our government. Our economy is very good. It’s probably the best it’s ever been. And we are very close to making some very good trade deals — fair trade deals. I didn’t want to say “good”; I wanted to say “fair” — fair trade deals for our taxpayers and for our workers and our farmers. And a lot of good things are happening.
I think the EU — we’re going to be meeting with them fairly soon. They want to see if they can work something out, and that’ll be good. And if we do work it out, that’ll be positive. And if we don’t, it’ll be positive also. Because —
PRIME MINISTER RUTTE: (Laughs.) No.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: — because we’re just thinking about those cars that pour in here.
PRIME MINISTER RUTTE: It’s not positive.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: And we’ll do something. Right?
PRIME MINISTER RUTTE: We have to work something out.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: But it’ll be — it’ll be positive.
PRIME MINISTER RUTTE: Yes.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: But again, Mr. Prime Minister, thank you very much for being here. Appreciate it. Thank you.

"Lefties to the north of me, lefties to the south, here I am....."

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...000-acres.html

Go on...

Kristin Mink tells it like it is

in other news

TheCall, a group led by Trump-supporting dominionist Lou Engle, declared in its latest email newsletter that Amy Coney Barrett, widely considered to be a top contender for a Supreme Court nomination, “has the endorsement of heaven behind her.”

Since Trump’s election, Engle has been exhorting groups of prayer warriors to pray that God would sweep justices off the Supreme Court to make room for Trump nominees to cause a “massive shift” on the court and bring about the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the end of legal abortion in America.

Amy Vivian Coney wed Jesse M. Barrett, now an Assistant United States Attorney for the Northern District of Indiana; they have SEVEN, count em, SEVEN children

only a Federal judge since November 2, 2017.

Barrett is a practicing Roman Catholic. The New York Times reported that Barrett was a member of a small, tightly knit Christian group called People of Praise.

one more reason to be against her? THAT VOICE, it's like a gate needing oil played thru a wah-wah

When you mock her voice, isn't that a kind of body shaming? Or is that excluded from your identity politics.

You're right, we shouldn't have any mothers on the Supreme Court.

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Originally Posted by ilduclo

Michelle Wolf "If you see Kellyanne Conway, I am so, so sorry for you. That means you're going to die in seven days"

Kellyanne Conway's biggest accomplishment is looking like something Vera Farmiga and Patrick Wilson need to exorcise to another dimension.

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Originally Posted by ilduclo

well, not really, it's just a charade. The candidates will say "I can't tell you how I'd vote, since I don't have any case testimony or evidence yet, and I always respect previously decided cases." Yeah, sure, just like they respected the Abood decision in Janus vs AFSCME (and what a good name that is for the 2 faced asshole)

Virtually at the same time as I was posting about Susan Collins, John Oliver said, "Time to play the Democrats' favorite game..."

It may be complete BS, but if Trump fires Sessions and replaces him with Pruitt, I will not be able to stop laughing for at least a few days.

Seen this one? A teacher and mother without any clout has the guts and eloquence to approach Pruitt and tell him to go fuck a goat (not in so many words; quite formally, in fact) while major cats in charge of overseeing this fucker just sit on their asses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9RIs9G5rgk

I'm so hoping Trump makes him AG. I'm begging for it.

Then I'll have to buy a lot more popcorn.

Trump is from NYC. Never again can anyone say NYC didn't bring society a pile of garbage.

But anyways, thank Christ for NYC. We wouldn't be anywhere near as cool without it.

She wouldn't be worse than any of the others. Let's settle for mediocrity and religious fear. That's the recipe for success.

A slight aside: I've had tesla69 on ignore for a couple of weeks. Can someone summarize what I missed? :)

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Originally Posted by Skuj

A slight aside: I've had tesla69 on ignore for a couple of weeks. Can someone summarize what I missed? :)

Fuck that, you can imagine it yourself and you'll be dead-on.

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

All I’m pointing out is so far there is no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded.

Evidently Congress has information that Russia colluded with someone?? Guess what, they probably did.

The question is, who???

President Obama

Hillary Clinton or her campaign

Anyone else??????

All we know so far is there is not one single shred of evidence linking President Trump or his campaign.

****BREAKING NEWS****

Once Congress reveals who colluded—GUESS WHAT—there is no evidence that it had any impact on the election or that Donald Trump won because of it.

Last but not least, as I’ve stated previously in this thread......from my meager understanding of the law......colluding isn’t a crime!

As we all spend the 4th of July living in the Promise Land, I figured it would a perfect time for a recap of the Muller investigation.

There was NEVER any plausible or credible evidence that President Donald Trump or his campaign EVER colaberated or colluded with Russia to help win the Presidency:

NO-NADA-ZERO Evidence

With NO evidence of crime to justify a criminal investigation (which is the most basic requirement for an investigation)......the FBI NEVER had anyone connecting President Donald Trump to anything!!!

Why is it we never heard a reporter ask:

“How Is Colussion A Crime?”

“Where Is It Written In The Criminal Codes?”

———IT’S NOT ILLEGAL———

Talking with Russia or ANY OTHER COUNTRY during a campaign is NOT ILLEGAL!!!

———HOWEVER———

making payments to foreigne Nationals IS ILLEGAL!!!
So is keeping a server in a closet with top secret information on it.

Hillbilly Clinton did these things!!!

Muller has lost all credibility and will soon lose his job and his investigation.

And yet again, for the millionth fucking time, how do we know any of that if Mueller has said nothing nor released his findings yet?

(I fully expect yet another nonanswer to that very simple question, and we can do this again very soon.)