I'm glad you enjoyed it.

You should check out the Ro album too, by the way.. everyone here should. I'll keep insisting on it. :D

Gucci Mane is out of jail again! Can't wait for his new material to surface.

To kids today it is. I don't understand how you don't understand this or how you keep making ot all out to be more than it is. I think you might be taking yourbirthday a bit too strong. Remember. We're not old we're grown and indeed our music is grown folks music now.

Yeah, you're right about that.

I'm really not getting huffy about this. I just think it's a bit of a mind-fuck.

I also think that there's been something of a sea change in pop culture between our parents' generation, ours, and this one.
Like, my father thought Sonic Youh was noisey offensive trash. Not just Sonic Youth, but also the poppier Sebadoh, Dino and Pavement. He wouldn't be able to sit through one uninterrupted minute of Aphex Twin or Unwound.

It's because it's so much more bizarre and violent than anything he grew up with. But my dad wasn't a counterculture kid. Also, my dad grew up pre-punk. We grew up in the final third of punk's life. We're all obviously a bit left of center.
But because of the death of punk, "kids today" actually seem to be listening to music that is fat more tame and basic than what we grew up with.

Our "dad rock" is objectively more offensive and weird than anything that's going on now, even in the counterculture.

I'm really not flat out disagreeing with you. I just think the difference between modern music and "our" music is different than the difference between our music and our parents' music. For the first time, kids are listening to lamer, safer shit than their parents. That's my opinion anyway. But again, we're comparing a bunch of '80s and '90s punk kids to the 2010's youth at large. So it's a little slanted.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down here, or do I still sound like I'm just in denial? Seriously. I do understand what you're saying and I get it, but I'm trying to put what's in my tired old mind into words, and that's tough for a geriatric fuck like me ;)

See now you're starting to get it

So I'm being clear enough? I had a splitting migraine when I wrote that post, and was reeling from a 65 hour work week, so I was not sure it would make sense.

Do you agree though? Like, when my dad heard "my music" he gave that classic old guy response of, "This isn't music, it's noise!" Just like his parents — bred on Sinatra and the Rat Pack — said of those wild and crazy long haired Beatles.

The few times I've played something for someone significantly younger than myself, it was almost like I was talking to my father circa 1992. I remember playing Sister for a co-worker just out of college in 2011... he was a Bruno Mars fan, and occasionally got crazy by listening to Fun. or Arcade Fire post-Funeral. He said something along the lines of, "you don't really listen this do you? You're messing with me." I was kind of appalled, but I also thought it was fucking hilarious. He was 22. Shouldn't he have been saying how pansy assed it was? Shouldn't he have been obsessed with some crazy glitched out techno that made "Come to Daddy" sound like "Hello Mother, Hello Father"?

Again now you're starting to get it. Took you long enough because your were so busy arguing qith yourself and expanding the wikipedia pages about all your favorite bands missing the point entirely. Sometimes you need to just think less

Hey louder, I listened to that Ro James alb. today on Apple Music. You're right, it has some nice moments. I dig the Prince and D'angelo influences, but those elements kinda just make me want to listen to Prince and D'angelo.

But it's got promise. I will definitely be revisiting it.

Flume's (super) long-awaited second album, Skin, just dropped on Friday, with guest appearances from Vince Staples and Vic Mensa (and Beck, just to name a few). I don't know if this means anything to you guys, but for me it's a big deal. I came into 2016 with two albums on the brain: whatever Ye was going to drop, and Skin.

Now that it's out, I feel like pretty much everything that I was looking forward to in terms of music has happened, and we're only halfway through the year. Skin is the kind of EDM album that keeps me listening to EDM. Like HudMo's Lantern, it brings out the absolute fucking best in big tent electronica. Without albums like these, I feel like I'd give up on mainstream techno completely, and dive into the amorphous sound collages of Autechre and the panicked footwork of Jlin and RP Boo full time.

Skin is already own of my favorite albums of the year, behind Kaytranada, but right up there with Pantha Du Prince's the Triad, and probably ahead of Elseq 1-5 just because of its immediate listenability. I really feel like electronic music is finally starting to blossom in 2016. Which is fucking awesome.

Go listen to Flume - Skin.
Louder, I think you in particular will find a lot to like about it.

Have you heard "First Day Out of the Feds"? It's slathered in Mike WILL (which can be good or really annoying), but the chorus and main sample is just sinister as hell. I like it, even though it's a really short track. It has balls and it shows promise, and it's got me interested in what's coming up next.

Yeah, nice song. The lyrics were dope. But I just think of it as a little teaser.

Thanks for checking it out. I see what you mean, I think he's a really talented dude and he does have something unique going on despite having clear influences. Have you heard BJ the Chicago Kid's album by the way? I thought that was really solid too, with some fantastic standout songs. It's more old fashioned, with gospel elements.

Interesting, I'll check it out.

Yeah, I bought that BJ album on iTunes right when it came out. I have I admit, I haven't listened to it a whole lot since then, but I liked what I heard. I've been meaning to revisit it. It's just that it came out pretty early in the year, and I was pretty much all TLOP all the time for the entire first quarter.

I'll go back to it. Promise.

Yeah, same here. But like I said, it has potential, and it has me pumped about what's coming next.

Chruch
The Resume
Love Inside
Jeremiah
The New Cupid
Turnin' Me Up

These songs amazed me. The rest of the album was good too, a couple of songs were forgettable though. I consider BJ the best "new school" R&B/soul vocalist and I think he has a lot of potential to make a true classic. Hopefully someday..

I think it'll just be more Gucci type music from him, I don't expect him to switch it up or reinvent himself or anything. With that said, it could be really dope Gucci music. We'll see.

I think Birds in the Trap Sing McKnight is out. :confused:
I'm not positive, because Wikipedia and Google still refer to it as "upcoming," but last night I saw the 11 tracks on DatPiff.com and previewed them on my phone. Then I headed to my computer and downloaded it, but I had some trouble finding a link that worked.

I haven't listened to it yet, so I guess that's all I need to do to clear this up. But I'm not 100% sure it's not a fake at this point. We'll see. Pretty excited to hear it honestly. It seems like a cool project.

Also there's a new Kevin Gates mixtape out. Haven't heard it yet either, but... yeah. It's there.

I also listened to this new joint from Lil Uzi Vert on Apple Music the other day, and it wasn't terrible... I have to confess, I mainly listened because the artwork made me think of Graduation:



but I didn't hate the tracks I heard. By the time I'd heard three or four I was getting a little frustrated by the lack of variation in sound from song to song. But like I said... didn't hate it.

^ Interesting.

A new Pusha single featuring Jay-Z titled "Drug Dealers Anonymous" is coming tonight. Here's the artwork:



Can't wait.

Nope, not out yet. Sorry fam. I'm looking forward to it as well.

Then what the fuck am I listening to? Haha!

Oh, no shit! You're fucking kidding me man!

I was JUST listening to Darkest Before Dawn and sulking about the fact that the "King Push" album didn't come out in April as originally promised. Seriously, it was mere moments ago that I was cruising along, thinking, "Damn, it's the end of May... All of my hip-hop dreams for 2016 have come true, even the ones I didn't think ever would (Kanye), and didn't even bother to hope for (new Kendrick) — except for the ONE release I was totally counting on.

So this is very good news indeed. And With a guest spot from fucking Jay-Z?!
Damn.

I don't know. :o Possibly a fanmade compilation of random loosies and throwaways.

I know you've been waiting for this one!

You know how much Pusha looks up to Hov, so finally getting a feature from Hov must be a big moment for him. Plus Hov on a song about coke is always guaranteed to deliver a great verse.

I think King Push is slated for release next month, by the way.

Oh we're talking about rap again. Carry on

Well, whatever it is, it's not bad. I let's got "Uber Everywhere" and I dig that song. I kinda thought DatPiff was pretty reliable when it came to mixtapes. Reputable at least. They seem to release a lot of the higher profile releases, and I've never questioned the validity of the releases before. Hmm.

Oh well. So when's Birds in the Trap actually coming out?

Yeah, it should be excellent. Crossing my fingers over here. I want Jay to come with something fierce. It's been a minute.

rap. hip hop. I've been gathering facts and yes, rap. hip hop again? tis is the café after all. lost interest a while ago. just not digging nothing feel me.

"Drug Dealers Anonymous" is a Tidal exclusive for the time being. I no longer subscribe to Tidal, so I've only heard snippets. Sounds promising, but I have to hear the Jay verse before I can make a ruling.

Did y'all see Anderson Peak on Fallon? He killed it.

Shit man. The beat and Pusha sound hard, wish I could hear the entire thing. Yet again, this Tidal bullshit sucks.. :(

EDIT: Stream it here https://soundcloud.com/nodrumzoffici...lers-anonymous

(Or here, in case the first link I posted goes down http://rapdose.com/2016/05/31/pusha-...us-feat-jay-z/)

Yes he did! The new version of Come Down with T.I is dope.

Ok so this song is FIRE. Both Pusha and Hov killed it. Still need more listens to decide who had the better verse.

DJ Dahi's production here is so next level.. sounds like some futuristic DJ Premier shit, damn.

"Tried to build a cell around me
Snatched my nigga Emory up
Tried to get him to tell about me
He told 12, “Gimme 12”
He told them to go to hell about me"

"Life made me ambidextrous
Countin’ with my right, whipping’ white with my left wrist"

Yup, JAY Z is back.

dude not to be so picky but I think it's really archaic and frankly pretty reductive of electronic music that you'd lump someone like flume in with autechre. that's like going "hey, guns n roses and amm are in the same sphere because they're using fucking drums and guitars". it's a real rockist attitude to not want to pick up (and it is a matter of not wanting to or just laziness I don't know) on the disparities between electronic music when the chasms between all these different styles along so many different dimensions are perhaps even greater than those in 'rawk'.

Back with wack rhymes that don't rhyme and have no cleverness and no quality whatsoever.....

I get what you're saying. Flume and Autechre aren't anything alike.

But I didn't so much mean to lump them together as to point out that Flume is an example of good mainstream EDM, and that the new album is one of the reasons why I still listen to pop electronic music because it's actually really fucking good. The point I was trying to make was that without albums like Skin (and Lantern, and to a lesser extent 99%, because it's less EDM and more beat/hip-hop) I would give up on popist stuff, and only listen to stuff like Autechre.

But yeah, it's clear that the artists have about as much in common as Beck and Sonic Youth. Less, really. But I do like pretty much all varieties of electronic music, and I don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to the sub-and sub-sub-genres when talking casually, because it's just much easier to say "electronic music."

I know Flume isn't cool or whatever, but the album's good, makes my ears happy. I get where you're coming from though.

Oh come on, that ambidextrous line is fucking awesome.

Granted, I haven't heard the track in full yet. Don't have time to now. But I kinda doubt you and I are going to agree about this one. You, who hate Jay, and I, who love him despite his many (many, many) missteps.

I just want that fire motherfucker who blew my mind with Reasonablr Doubt, Blueprint, Black Album, American Gangster and Blurprint III back (and who solidly impressed me, on occasion, on Vol.1 & 2, Kingdom Come, and MCHG).

I just want Jay-Z to make one more killer album. Not one with Beyoncé... She doesn't need him, and would only make him sound lame. Just another Muhammad Ali of hip-hop joint before he goes geriatric.