dancehall
 

they make some good tunes but they often say horrid things about gays.












what do you think about dancehall music?

I have always found this genre annoying.
Like Zydeco, I have honestly never heard a single piece of music in this genre that I could like on any level.

Purely on musical terms there is stuff here and there that i like.When someone gets banned from playing live because of their vile lyrics(what was his name?),they fucking deserve it and a punch in the face too.I'm afraid i'm not kind on cunts who go on about racism and brotherhood and then proceed on writing lyrics that say that gays should be killed and women should be used as doormats.In that case you deserve all the racism that you get.Period.

yeah, fair points. i just find some of their beats to be quite interesting and enjoyable to listen to though, it's not a style of music i have a deep interest in but i enjoy it from type to time. who was it that got banned?


savage clone is just a musical white supremacist!

That wasn't so long ago.I'll google something because i can't remember his name but he managed to mobilitate a lot of anti-homophobic campaigners into stopping him from playing in the UK.Rightly.Savage Clone is the Hitler of the psyche rock scene.White as only Snowwhite can be.

Elephant Man got in hot water in the UK over his 'burn down a batty man' lyric.

Beenie Man got in hot water in the States over something or other - I think this was a political thing rather than a lyrical thing.

Buju Banton got into similar trouble in the early 90's.

I loves me dancehall, but I get put off by the terrible lyrics. I recently re-discovered a lady saw album at the back of my collection. She comes highly recommended on the basis of her 'what the fuck did she just say?' lyrics. Possibly the filthiest woman alive.

I happen to think Sizzla is one of the greatest voices in modern music. I am also slightly reticent to buy his music as a result of his explicit political leanings.

It's one of those can of worms arguments, someone will eventually ask the question of whether or not it's homophobia if the country doesn't really have gays... sort of a similar question to the Nordic Church burning death metaller racists who've probably never seen a black man in their lives. Whatever, bullshit is bullshit. Dancehall is more annoying because their bullshit comes clothed in some outstanding music.

yes, not only do they want to kill the gays, but can you imagine my horror when i recently heard a dancehall song that was calling for people to burn the Queen?! Shocking!

Haha. See, I think most reasonable (pinko) people would support the general anti-colonial/ anti-vulgar capitalism sentiment. I just wish they'd stop being so terribly beastly to the bummers.

Is this board becoming white liberal guilt.com, or is it just me?

That's pretty much what i'm trying to say here.The musical coating of the lyrics goes from bad to genius but the lyrics are just vile,i'm afraid.And i'm not someone who gets easily offended by that kind of thing either.
edit:this is referred to your first post Glice.

i've never really understood why those chaps take such grievance with the ancient babylonians either

I've said this before, but there are those out there in Dancehall who aren't homophobes, at least not explicitly. Beenie Man hasn't said anything (that I've heard) that is directly homophobic - there's a lot of, "You're a bit gay" posturing, but I don't think that's as offensive as encouraging people to burn gays (or Babylon, or whatever). Ward21 are great (silly), Mr Vegas is a better one-hit wonder (over here) than Shaggy (always shite) and for my money Bounty Killer is one of the better conscious-political lyricists of modern times. Bear in mind that I can't stand political lyrics with that last one.

I understand entirely your concerns, porkie. I think it's slightly dubious to tar everyone making music in Jamaica with the same brush (not that you're doing that) but there's also the problem that it can be incredibly difficult to pick the good chaps out from the wrong 'uns.

The biggest shame is that so many people are frightened away from dancehall because of its lyrical content - this is, of course, entirely understandable - but you get less and less people buying Jamaican music these days - or if they do they buy the 'roots' bollocks or the classics from mento through to the early 80's. Fair enough, but there's a lot more to Jamaican music than Bob 'fucking shite' Marley.

Oooh, does anyone remember Linton Kwesi Johnson? Fucking diamond.

I'm not really that concerned with the whole thing to be honest.If i like a tune,i'll listen to it ignoring the lyrics and,yes,i agree wholeheartedly that not every dancehall musician is a homophobe(it just doesn't work out that way with anything hatred-related i think).All i'm saying is that i find it apalling that you could justify any valuable and coherent anti-racist stance when you yourself are that way inclined.You can only generalize on things like this.That is because these idiots are a poison to the jamaican music industry.

Bob Marley?No.

My jazz, Indian, Japanese and early American music recordings sure do make me look like a card-carrying member of the Aryan Nations, all right!

Linton Kwesi Johnson's "Dread Beat An' Blood" is a fine listen as well.

Agreed. I wasn't particularly directing my statement at yourself. I was, as with all my posts, offerring my words up in recompense for my sins against God.

Jah rastafari. Yibby yibby yo ya yay and all that bollocks.


Wot, no gypsy music? Romanophobe.

yeah, it really irritates me when the only jamaican music people know is bob marley, nothing i've heard from him as ever really done a great deal for me, although i haven't heard, but am keen to hear the stuff he recorded with lee perry

the japs don't count because they were on the same side as the nazis anyway.

Actually I do have some of that as well, now that you mention it. I have it filed near my Andean flute LPs and my "World Of Islam" series, which is adjacent to my Basque and Andalusian recordings.

It only counts if you can get "blood in the face," my friend.

Wot, no gamelan? Balineaphobe.


[I assure you this'll be the last use of a not terribly good joke]

I have booked a Gamelan every year at my annual festival of music! Ha!

Still no hip hop though?Those ethnic minorities......they are only good at playing traditional instruments.The minute they get their hands on modern gadgets they make a mess of the whole thing.

My appreciation of hiphop is very narrow, it's true; somewhere around 2 or 3 percent of what I have heard. Still a better ratio than Zydeco or Dancehall though!

i like sizzla's music a lot. i saw sizzla and luciano in the bahamas in '98. i did feel slightly uncomfortable during one of his black power songs, being one of six white people i counted at the concert, and also because there were two girls behind me who didn't appreciate my whiteness at all, but i was with a couple people who were there to hold my hand when a gunfight broke out. being high as a kite and paranoid didn't help the situation much. aside from all the drama, they were great performers. praise ye jah is a great album but i probably won't be going to any live performances anytime in the near future.

beenie man and bounty killer both have songs with homo-not-so-friendly titles.

Alright then smartarse.

Wot, no South Wales hip-hop?

i've got a tystion CD, although i have no idea if they are from north or south wales

If memory doesn't fail me they are from North Wales.Wow that is prehistoric welsh hip hop,man.

a welsh person once saw that in my collection and was flabbergasted, particularly when i said i'd picked it up in japan

Tystion were/ are fucking ace. Couldn't understand a word of it.

I have a few videos of the burgeoning Swansea hip-hop scene in the mid-90's. It's utterly crap, but highly amusing. I think Luke Buttredger might have been south Wales. They were moderately amusing as well. I'm pretty sure GLC are from those parts, but they're certainly not worth mentioning.

It's all about Datblygu and Llybyr Llaethog round here though.

i know, next thing they will be asking for the vote as well.

pampidoo - synthesizer voice
natural vibes intro
pinchers - enemies
assassin - good over evil
???????
assassin - we no care yu a who
elephant man - stamina
bugle - can trick we
aidonia - one motion
elephant - buss up ya steel
????????
????????
mr vegas - hice it up
???????
mr vegas - see it go
capleton - wha dis
busy signal - man a thug
tony matterhorn - pour some liquor
hawkeye - police alarm
mr vegas and lexxus - wine inna dance
tony matterhorn - goodas
mr vegas - hard man
mr vegas - winery
mr vegas - gal over gun
assassin - hotter than her
aidonia - ukku bit
wayne marhall - my lungs were made for smoking
movado and busy signal - full clip
m.i.a. - galangalang - dave kelly mix
elephant man - touch
mr vegas - tek way u self
busy signal - pussycat
aidonia - golden eagle
mr vegas - shock out
bunji garlin - top shatta girl
aidonia - smoke weed
busy signal - take off your clothes
busy signal - chat back
elephant man -
turbulance - dun di place
aidonia - lyrics
elephant man - loud and clear
damian marley - dreadful
collie budz - come around
bugle - wine
tenor saw - live on radio
bonus - daddy freddy / asher d / demon boyz live

pampidoo - synthesizer voice
natural vibes intro
pinchers - enemies
assassin - good over evil
???????
assassin - we no care yu a who
elephant man - stamina
bugle - can trick we
aidonia - one motion
elephant - buss up ya steel
????????
????????
mr vegas - hice it up
???????
mr vegas - see it go
capleton - wha dis
busy signal - man a thug
tony matterhorn - pour some liquor
hawkeye - police alarm
mr vegas and lexxus - wine inna dance
tony matterhorn - goodas
mr vegas - hard man
mr vegas - winery
mr vegas - gal over gun
assassin - hotter than her
aidonia - ukku bit
wayne marhall - my lungs were made for smoking
movado and busy signal - full clip
m.i.a. - galangalang - dave kelly mix
elephant man - touch
mr vegas - tek way u self
busy signal - pussycat
aidonia - golden eagle
mr vegas - shock out
bunji garlin - top shatta girl
aidonia - smoke weed
busy signal - take off your clothes
busy signal - chat back
elephant man -
turbulance - dun di place
aidonia - lyrics
elephant man - loud and clear
damian marley - dreadful
collie budz - come around
bugle - wine
tenor saw - live on radio
bonus - daddy freddy / asher d / demon boyz live

 

Hardy inna de dancehall 3
I guess I was just born to dj this stuff. Racing thru 47 (count 'em) ragga, bashment and dancehall tracks from 2006 / 07. Plenty of elephant man, busy signal, mr vegas and aidonia amongst others. Major riddims represented are theNookie, Dem time deh, Stage show, Buh buh lups (I aint even make this up), Vagina, Old truck, Gully slime and the particularly babylon levelling extraordinary rendition, theBad Belly.This music keeps supplying the rhythm, sex, dumb choruses, comical homophobia, silly noises and humour lacking elsewhere in the often sterile contemporary musical moonscape. Or maybe that's just me. Take a chance. Right click HERE and 'Save as...'

http://www.spymania.com/pgs/dancehall3.html

Nice little mix.

I like Galang by MIA

i hate everything about m.i.a.

i don't own any dancehall records but i like to listen to it every once in a while, like when mtv soul or whatever that channel is called puts on jamaican shit. i don't listen to the lyrics at all, don't know what they are talking about and from the videos and beats, i'm assuming it's about spanking some booty.

i wouldn't support dancehall because of their racist and/or homophobic stances, but that doesn't mean i don't like listening to it every once in a while.

and yeah, the only bob marley that's any good is his work with lee perry.

M.I.A. = Not my idea of a dancehall artist.

I don't like MIA either, but I think this song is great. Bird Flu is OK as well.

that's like adding daddy yankee or any other reggaeton bollocks to a dancehall playlist.

i've only heard about 2 minutes of reggaeton but it sounded awful, i bought a baile funk mixtape a year or two ago and that sucked big time.
i don't get why everyone was talking about those styles a couple of years ago.

thanks

because reggaeton is huge with latino people, really huge. people here just love to crank it on their car stereos and play it on parties and danceclubs, and this is just one country out of latinamerica.

raggaeton gives me headaches, literally.

i love reggaeton and dancehall and dubstep to dance to, i probably would nevet sit around wit headphones on listening to it, but dancing is fun, so dancehall is good.

the first time i heard sizzla was in john cardiel's skate part in the transworld video sight unseen, i loved it.