in the words of tyler himself, "nigga gotta eat".

truth.

holy shit have you guys heard "Yonkers" ???????

i posted about it on the last page dumbass.

has anyone heard the lykke li remix? that's GOOD.

:( my bad.

yeah I got that today too.

hahaha I'm just playing.

i might be the only one but i find odd future boring as hell

okay.

you probably are. They're easily the most interesting hip hop group I can think of since I dont know when. i'm not talking about "skills" or whatever. That shit's subjective. But there's no denying that they are compelling. Which is opposito of "boring."

i don't find it compelling at all, it's teenagers trying to sound hard and dropping punchline after punchline over what sounds like teenagers trying to make madlib beats. the raps are like a mix of camron and mf doom(in a bad way) and i don't see how they can get big when someone like hell razah or sick jacken is better in every possible way for my standards.

they're not bad but they aren't interesting or memorable at all

okay.

then why are so many of us interested in them? Even many of us who have spent a lifetime binging on hip hop?

every performer has people interested in them, that doesn't mean anything, i obviously didn't say you don't find them interesting so i have no idea what you're getting at


personally i'm not interested in the rape fantasies of a nerdy 16 year old at all

okay.

yr interested enough to keep posting in a thread about them.

okay so the new Tyler is coming out on XL recordings. one album deal thing.

seems like a good fit.

The beat on that new Tyler track is sick. Really really addictive.

Having said that, I kinda wish a gay rapper (or anyone, really) would step up and create a counterpoint/dialog to this bullshit empty shock posturing Odd Future seem to be getting away with. Why, lyrically, is talking about faggots and bitches still considered revolutionary? I don't buy this whole "I'm only mirroring my reality" bullshit anymore - there's an asymmetry to a lot of their lyricism that feels really tiring. And i say this as a die-hard hip hop fan. I guess there's been slightly less overt homophobia in mainstream rap and it now becomes acceptable and edgy to start railing against faggots? Whenever pitchfork indie culture machine et. al writes about hip hop, it's always treated as some kind of subaltern place, like they need to change their critical lenses or something since they're so unequipped, or they're afraid to touch on issues like political economy without it looking like white tastemakers admonishing "black art." I wish there were more artists producing WORK that critically engages with this stuff.

I'm actually working on a track called 'fuck odd future'. I love Odd Future and I'm not offended by anything but I think that the idea is good enough and the rhymes are gonna come out so I'm doing it. Fuck no homo, I'm so homo.