A Love Supreme
 

i heard this for the 1st time last week, it is such an amazing piece of music. Calling it an album doesn't seem to do it justice, although the 4 parts fit perfectly together.
When i first heard SY i couldn't listen to anything else for ages. Same with Bob Dylan, and i got the same excitement, the same butterflies with this. The piano is fucking incredible!

I'd picked up an old live album by John Coltrane with "a few of my favourite things" on a while back and loved that, but this is different. This isn't human music...

Are you new to Coltrane in general? ALS is definitely great, but he's done better. I myself am a big fan of Blue Train, and the ear-and-brain-rattling Ascension.

EDIT: why the fuck did I list Sketches of Spain as a Coltrane album?!? Too much acid.

I have to agree that ALS is on a different level to any of JC's other music, as sublime as that other music is.

Sketches of Spain is a remarkable album but by Miles Davis, not Coltrane.

yeah, apart from that live album, i've not heard him before.

was into Miles and Chalrie Parker and the bop stuff (and a bit of Dave Brubec) but this is a different level

I have been going through the same thing for the past two weeks. It truly is something else. Coltrane really must have been channeling the spirits on this one. I don't think Coltrane (or music in general) gets much better than this but if you want something that comes close grab Ascension.

Part IV: Psalm is pure genius
Lots of love for Coltrane, im just starting to get into his later stuff (Kulu Se Mama, OM, etc) and its great
Also a big miles fan, "ON the corner" may have the best percussion i have ever heard

Oh shit, I can't believe I did that! I've been listening to both these guys since childhood!

Ugh. Facepalm.

edit...

Yeah, for me Ascension is his high-mark. That thing is fucking heavenly.

Think it was generally regarded as shite for a long time, but I can see how many would find it hard to swallow.

Very, very great album!!! I think it´s best Jazz album (well I haven´t listened much "pure" jazz, mostly Jazz-rock). I have some Coltrane´s other records too, but they´re not as great as this.

By the way, Santana and McLaughlin has made a much shorter version from a Love Supreme, it´s ok, but not as great as the original.

McCoy Tyner is the pianist on ALS and also on much of Coltrane's 60's work. He was and still is a real beast.

If you enjoy ALS you NEED to get McCoy Tyners "The Real McCoy" It's the same band but with Joe Henderson in for Coltrane and Ron Carter (from the Miles 60's band) in for Garrisson. Absolutely essential, I can't say enough.

cool, ascension and the real mccoy next then!

I have Black Pearls, Impressions, Giant Steps and Coltrane Plays the Blues.
I like the last one best.

Good to hear Sketches of Spain mentioned at all. My brother bought me this for my 16th birthday and for a 16 year old punk rocker it sounded like something from another planet.

I ignored Sketches of Spain for years, always writing it off as a 'jazz album for people who don't really like jazz'. Then I realised that would likely make it ideal for me (insofar as I generally likes the idea of jazz far more than I do the reality) so I got it a couple of years ago and fell in love with it immediately.

Joe Henderson and Loius Gasca have played some really great spanish tinged stuff, recco for Born to Love You

as to Tyner, i am really fond of Asante & Extensions, especially

and for more Coltrane look at Nels Cline/Gregg Bendian Intestellar Space Revisted sets, a fantastic performance of which a good recording of which is here

http://duclism.blogspot.com/2011/03/...illy-22o1.html

Same here. I was a Black Flag Dead Kennedys kid. Then my uncle bought me "Porgy and Bess" and I was like....... whhhhaaa???? But I loved it. Then Kind of Blue. Then Sketches...

I actually see a lot of similarities between jazz (Contrane especially) and the punk movement. Everybody's always called me full of shit for it, but I swear... Ascension's wildness is like a musical pelude to Iggy Pop's physicality. Does that make sense?

And the connections between SY and jazz are more than clear. SY is pretty punk in nature, so there ya go.

i'm going to say coltrane's music is way too good to be compared to a skinny shirtless guy writhing around on stage, please

Well, I say Stooges is greater than Coltrane altough I think Coltrane is also very great. But it´s just my opinion.

The Stooges (EDIT: S/T and Funhouse era) obviously drew a lot from free jazz.

If you like sax check out Rashan Roland Kirk. I also dug King Curtis Live at the Filmore West. It's great to see other fans of SY also love Jazz. I have for years back in the seventies I was the only one in my gang/posse/friends who listened to Jazz.

You can't go wrong with ANY Coltrane album! That being said I don't have any Prestige-era or earlier albums. I have nearly all LPs from Atlantic and Impulse eras, Village Vanguard boxset, Live Trane boxset on Pablo.

Ole Coltrane is 'Trane's excellent modal/Spanish workout

Anyone who loves this stuff should make an effort to go see Pharoah Sanders if and when he plays anywhere remotely near them.

First four Alice Coltrane albums are killers too.

There is a live performance of A Love Supreme in France from '65 or '66, havn't heard that one yet.



comparing Coltrane and Stooges is like comparing apples and pineapples

It is on the deluxe edition of a Love Supreme and is completely nuts. the one and only time they played it live. totally worth checking out, I almost want to say that it is better than the studio album.

just ordered Ascension

really looking forward to it

A Love Supreme is one of the best albums I've ever heard. It's utterly moving, hopeful and uplifting, never failing to elicit an emotional response.
Of late I've been listening to Africa/Brass, and the Namia from the Village Vanguard set is amazing, too. Yesterday arrived a later collection, Live In Japan, but I don't have time this week to pay it proper attention. Two discs, six tracks, including a My Favourite Things that's 57'19. Mmmmn. Pharoah, Alice, Rashied Ali and Jimmy Garrison. I knew nothing of it until it came up on Second Spin. Can't wait.

listening to Ascension now...

beautiful

i was expecting really harsh, but it's really colourful.
that first solo was incredible!

this is insane!

can you imagine playing in this? they must just turn off from everything, totaly zone out

and then the piano comes back!

been listening to alot of great people recently but Ornette Coleman really stands out for me. This Is Our Music is superb
but i heard a Charles Mingus track for the first time the other day (better get it in your soul, or something) and that was another level again. i've got 2 of his albums on order and cannot wait!
love the mix of New Orleans and Avant, even had a drone section! beautiful

I sincerely hope The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady is one of the two you have on order! I'd put it up there with ANY of the albums listed in this thread. BUY IT NOW. You will NOT be disappointed!

sickest post trane style lp