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demonrail666 06.18.2011 08:05 AM

Is pop music 'descending into porn'?
 
http://www.channel4.com/news/is-pop-...to-pornography

It's turning into a bit of a moral panic here in the UK

 

Keeping It Simple 06.18.2011 08:45 AM

Since when?

Adolfo 06.18.2011 08:50 AM

since this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rg3sAb8Id8

demonrail666 06.18.2011 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adolfo


I'd have thought it started with Elvis' hips

 

Keeping It Simple 06.18.2011 09:00 AM

Couldn't help but notice it's only Christina Aguilera that's gotten everyone's knickers in a twist.

demonrail666 06.18.2011 09:05 AM

It's not just Christina Aguilera. Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Nicole Scherzinger, Rihanna and Katy Perry are also getting some flack for their 'risky' videos.

Keeping It Simple 06.18.2011 09:08 AM

Considering I'm not a fan of any of them, I couldn't give a toss what they knock out as I wouldn't be watching their saucy vids.

floatingslowly 06.18.2011 09:36 AM

until popstars start becoming violated by multiple throbbing tentacles, in their holes that are not already filled with each others spiked strap-ons, I'm going to he forced to sadly answer 'NOPE'.

gast30 06.18.2011 10:14 AM

imagine you have smart girls (with clothes on and not tested on animals make-up + eat vegetarian)

who sing about babies who are brainwashed with politics and religion
?

it's all just a moneymachine that gives its employees ( the singer, the band)
and award for making the most money, selling the most records

the same with festivals that are now bought buy ? multinationals ?
that is making alot of money on the commercial, tickets and all that their greedy money hands can grab

a modern explotation of music
by imbecils with commercial idea's

demonrail666 06.18.2011 10:33 AM

The debate's really just an extention of a much bigger one regarding the supposed sexualisation of children. Pop obviously targets that audience so it's being looked at in the same way that those high street shops selling sexy lingerie to children have. So it's not a debate about pornography in itself.

Genteel Death 06.18.2011 11:00 AM

Not until penetration and fellatio enter the mix.

floatingslowly 06.18.2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
imagine you have smart girls (with clothes on and not tested on animals make-up + eat vegetarian)


I came.
キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!

EVOLghost 06.18.2011 11:48 AM

I think they need to take a lesson from the asians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRzR942WQM

knox 06.18.2011 01:01 PM

we're living in the porn-age.
EVERYTHING is turning into porn.

Adolfo 06.18.2011 01:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdf9gxp-_4A

LifeDistortion 06.18.2011 02:17 PM

Its an old debate and I think a simple question is asked. Who has influence over your kid's attire or behavior. Is it the music and tv they are watching? Or the parents raising the kid? Just because a pre-teen girl wants to wear short skirts and belly baring outfits, doesn't mean the parents should allow them to. They can idolize these people all they want. It all has to do with how they are being raised. The same people who make arguments about pop music on television are the same people who want to censor music and movies. I have always found it a bit funny how the UK mainstream media overblows any teenage trend it seems and, and are quick to say its corrupting the youth. Like when Stanley Kubrick had to pull "A Clockwork Orange" from the theatres due to copycats. Its not like America hasn't had its own moments of blaming crime on certain music or movies, but this knee-jerk get rid of if attitude that seems to happen in the UK is rather ridiculous.

demonrail666 06.18.2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
Its an old debate and I think a simple question is asked. Who has influence over your kid's attire or behavior. Is it the music and tv they are watching? Or the parents raising the kid? Just because a pre-teen girl wants to wear short skirts and belly baring outfits, doesn't mean the parents should allow them to. They can idolize these people all they want. It all has to do with how they are being raised. The same people who make arguments about pop music on television are the same people who want to censor music and movies. I have always found it a bit funny how the UK mainstream media overblows any teenage trend it seems and, and are quick to say its corrupting the youth. Like when Stanley Kubrick had to pull "A Clockwork Orange" from the theatres due to copycats. Its not like America hasn't had its own moments of blaming crime on certain music or movies, but this knee-jerk get rid of if attitude that seems to happen in the UK is rather ridiculous.


I have to agree with pretty much everything you say there. We have a tabloid media in the UK which basically thrives on that kind of hysteria, be it scapegoating movies (the whole video nasties thing, banning Childs Play) to inspirings mobs to burn down the houses of paediatricians. There's obviously something that needs to be done not just with shops willing to sell trainer bras with 'porn star' written on them, but the parents who obviously felt happy buying them until they were banned. If parents didn't buy them there'd be no reason to ban them, the companies wiould simply not bother manufacturing them.

Pop videos are slightly different in that parents obviously have less control over their kids access to them (which isn't to say they don't have any). And if parents have limited control over their kids, then governments have even less. In that instance it seems less about what should be done (a debate in itself) and more about what can be done. Beyond that the argument can only be that if the music industry knows this is happening, does it have a duty to censor itself?

But ultimately, yes, I agree.

Pelle 06.18.2011 02:46 PM

I do not mind this.

Derek 06.18.2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I have to agree with pretty much everything you say there. We have a tabloid media in the UK which basically thrives on that kind of hysteria, be it scapegoating movies (the whole video nasties thing, banning Childs Play) to inspirings mobs to burn down the houses of paediatricians. There's obviously something that needs to be done not just with shops willing to sell trainer bras with 'porn star' written on them, but the parents who obviously felt happy buying them until they were banned. If parents didn't buy them there'd be no reason to ban them, the companies wiould simply not bother manufacturing them.

Yep, remember when Cronenberg's 'Crash' came out and several tabloids threw up the headline, "BAN THIS CAR CRASH SEX FILM!!!"

Adolfo 06.18.2011 08:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZEICSz_aLU


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