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HECKLER SPRAY 02.18.2007 06:35 AM

Psychocandy by Jesus And Mary Chain : I like noise but this album bores me. I find the big reverb very crapy, and the whole sound recording of this album is worst than the firsts Pavement EP's recordings, or Lou Barlow's Lofi tracks, which I love.

king_buzzo 02.18.2007 06:42 AM

j is a genious, whoever is talking about him above...

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Originally Posted by CHOUT
Pavement - Slanted And Enchanted. I've owned it twice.


yes exactly. i can only listen to pavement when im in the right mood.

demonrail666 02.18.2007 08:43 AM

I really would urge anybody that isn't feeling Marquee Moon to keep trying. I'm not usually one to say that kind of thing but it took me a while to get into too and I'm so glad I invested the time in it. Definitely one of those albums that changes the way you hear and think about other music you love. It certainly added a new dimension to my enjoyment of Sonic Youth, for instance.

Washing Machine 02.18.2007 09:04 AM

hmm theres a few. Sonic Youth's 'Sister' is one, i adore 'EVOL' and 'Daydream Nation'...I thought I would love the middle record but I just dont get it. Same with 'Confusion is Sex' (although I worship Bad Moon Rising)

....ande if one more person tells me that Muse's 'Black Holes and Revelations' is the best album of 2006...

GravitySlips 02.18.2007 09:28 AM

I don't get the big deal about Devo. I find them annoying, to be honest.

demonrail666 02.18.2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips
I don't get the big deal about Devo. I find them annoying, to be honest.


+1 from me on that one, definitely. I don't get them at ALL.

Toilet & Bowels 02.18.2007 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy
i never understand these threads, there are no albums that i SHOULD like but don't. why should i like something because it is considered classic or great by others, i just don't get it, i like what i like and i dislike what i dislike end of story.


totally, why are people so astounded by the fact that they don't like all records, and that the tastes of all humans aren't precisely aligned.

demonrail666 02.18.2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
why are people so astounded by the fact that they don't like all records, and that the tastes of all humans aren't precisely aligned.


I don't think anyone here thinks that at all. They'd be stupid if they did. All we're talking about here is that because people generally like a style of music it can be interesting how they may not like albums generally considered as key examples or influences on that style.

Those people who like SY but aren't into Television is a perfect case in point. Nobody's saying they're wrong for not liking them, just that given their overall taste yuou'd assume they might. It's also nice for people to know that they're not on their own in disliking assumed 'classics'.

LittlePuppetBoy 02.18.2007 12:33 PM

Nevermind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols

I find that album to be really boring. And John Lydon's singing annoys me and the songs all sound too similar.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 02.18.2007 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by noumenal
Marquee Moon


same

atari 2600 02.18.2007 01:52 PM

Yeah, Marquee Moon is a bit overrated, but not as overrated as Exile on Main Street.

Most of this thread has been one silly philistine opinion after another.
crypto's response has been my favorite so far. It's so goofy to me that Exile on Main Street is supposed to be so great. I feel it gets good rep merely because it's a double album and too many critics don't have a clue. There simply are so many Stones records that are much better.

noumenal 02.18.2007 02:07 PM

I don't hate MM, or even dislike it. I just don't think it's as great as everybody says.

But really, it's just a rock album after all. All rock music is overrated.

Glice 02.18.2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by noumenal
But really, it's just a rock album after all. All rock music is overrated.


I realise that God didn't make our bodies the right way, but can you & I have kids anyway? Go on, it'll be a laugh. They'll grow up to be utter cunts, but they'll be right.

There are plenty of albums that don't excite me in any way that lots of people like. Most of the canon if I'm honest. I'm still young though, so there's plenty of time for listening to old man music when I'm an old man. This doesn't worry me too much, but the presupposition of an aesthetic 'quality' to many rock albums irritates the fuck out of me. There's a few articulate types, but mostly the critical assessment of rock albums amounts to nothing less ephemeral than 'it rocks'. In turn, there's a boorish hegemony invoked by a great deal of rock fans who can't understand why one doesn't appreciate 'classic' album X. It's irritating, but thankfully it's only really the odd prick in a pub that manifests this.

Daddylikes 02.18.2007 02:24 PM

The Pixies- Doolittle.

LifeDistortion 02.18.2007 02:39 PM

Oh this reminds me, I caught "Tommy" on Turner Classic Movies yesterday, I had never seen the movie, and for that matter heard the album in its entirety. I still haven't, changed it about twenty minutes into the film cause it just sort of bored me. So there you go.

luxinterior 02.18.2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
I don't feel I should like them, because, well, they're crappy. Especially seeing that they refuse to just fucking end it... The only song I like is Paint It Black. (I've basically only heard... like, '40 licks,' and it's all trash, save for Paint It Black, which is an incredible song.


I quite obviously don't agree with your assessment of the 40 Licks package, but I do have to say that their greatest hits don't do them justice. Most people have heard every song about 10 billion times, and not by choice. I don't consider it trash, I just think it's overplayed, which may be just as bad as trash. So how could it possibly be enjoyable for you to sit down and listen to 40 Licks? You're just asking to be disappointed, and you know it.

I mean every popular rock band that has been around long enough has had their same big hits repackaged in various forms. I really don't know why people gravitate toward these. They're boring. Basically I think Bruce McCulloch was right when he said, "Greatest hits albums are for housewives and little girls."

Concerning the Rolling Stones in particular, I also don't understand how their longevity can irritate so many people to such a great degree. When's the last time anyone has been forced to listen to any of their output from the past 20 years or so? Or attend an overpriced concert? Yet this is what people choose to complain about--usually people who don't even like the band, period, so go figure. Is it the fans? I can sort of understand that. They're all a bunch of raging alcoholics.

It doesn't bother me when people say they don't like the Rolling Stones, given that they've actually listened to the band beyond 40 Licks. I mean it's no substitute for Beggar's Banquet or Exile, is all I'm saying. And if you don't like either of those records or any of the others, that's fine, at least you have something to base your opinion on. An opinion I don't agree with, I might add, but at least one that is informed. I think my overall point is that I consider myself to be a fan of theirs, however none of my most favorite songs can be found on 40 Licks. It's just been exhausted, kind of like the talk of the albums from Beggar's through Exile has been exhausted. Still, I don't think that the little songs that I like have ever really gotten their due, even though a lot of them are on Exile, and people can't seem to shut up about Exile. Those songs are why I like them. You can have 40 Licks for all I care.

I know it sounds silly to defend them, of all bands, because they are rich and have everything they could ever want, but they also seem to attract so many opinions (good and bad) from people who really don't know what they're talking about.

porkmarras 02.18.2007 03:34 PM

Quite a few of the albums that are generally considered classics don't do it for me but two that almost immediately come up to my mind:

Pet Sounds
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band


Both dire albums to my ears.

noumenal 02.18.2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I realise that God didn't make our bodies the right way, but can you & I have kids anyway? Go on, it'll be a laugh. They'll grow up to be utter cunts, but they'll be right.


If you and I tried to mate, there's the possibility that both of our Y chromosomes would combine, creating an unviable organism. But even if it lived for just 2 seconds, it would be the manliest human blob EVER. And the rightest of course, I agree.

kingcoffee 02.18.2007 04:56 PM

Love Sgt Peppers!!! Not the Best Beatles album, but definitely one of my favorites.

I too HATE Tommy by the Who, one of the dumbest albums ever. I've been saying that to a lot of the older Who fans who just can't get it itno their heads that the Who, as innovative as they were, were not that good in terms of consistency. They had a few great songs with a lot of filler.

kingcoffee 02.18.2007 04:58 PM

I also really like Doolittle. I like Surfer Rosa better, but Doolittle is awesome too.

One thing I learned about the Pixies is that all of their songs sound much better live than on record, no matter how great of a job Albini did (for Surfer Rosa at least).


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