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Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 10:40 AM

What is coming NEXT in music?
 
It is nearly impossible to tell, and sometimes people with a good ear and amazing foresight are able to see possibilities in certain bands or sounds or genres which help them see the onrushing future of music, but it is a tricky business.
It is very hard to guess where the next musical evolution will head. In 1970 there would have been very very few people that could have predicted that a guy with a couple of turntables and a couple of records, would endlessly repeat a 4 second drum break from an old R&B song, while another guy would speak rhymes and boasts over it.
In 1976-78, when the aforementioned was happening, it would have been a shot in the dark to predict that what less than a hundred people in NYC were doing at clubs and house parties would grow to overshadow rock music and take over the consciousness of the entire world.

Right now we are at another crossroads. Somewhere, in some garage, or basement, or bedroom, or tiny dive, in some country anywhere in the world, a few people are mixing up their influences and their musical (or non-musical)tools and conjuring up a new music, something that has yet to take flower, and may never take flower.

I always wonder about this. What is next? while there are always dozens of revivals at any time occuring, and people still seek to perfect older forms, even recent ones, trying to guess what the disaffected and alienated youth of the next ten years will be grokking interests me.

What type of sounds do you think will be coming down the pike?

I used to think that the next mass consciousness msuic, at least in the USA, would involve a convergence of the Tejano/ranchero music, with it's conjunto instrumentation, and asian polyphonic rhythms and traditional acoustic instruments. anything that sounds "fresh" to the kids will be loved by the kids, especially if it is seen as "their own."

I may just be rambling, but I would like to know what you guys, who are much closer to the cutting edge of the new shit than most people I run into, think is coming next.

demonrail666 06.25.2008 10:50 AM

A lot of what we know as popular music stems from the rise of America as a world force after WWII. If it is able to maintain that position then I don't see much change, but if the balance of power shifts elsewhere then its fair to say that things will become quite different, maybe not immediately, but certainly over time.

Popular culture requires a large target audience. At the moment it seems set on satisfying the tastes of American and Western European youths. If another market emerges, which is even bigger, then I assume pop culture will transform itself in order to satisfy its taste.

ALIEN ANAL 06.25.2008 10:55 AM

first person to say robots gets a neg rep

nicfit 06.25.2008 10:56 AM

robots.

ALIEN ANAL 06.25.2008 10:58 AM

you just keep checking those points buddy
who knows when ill strike

Everyneurotic 06.25.2008 11:04 AM

i doubt something as massive as grunge or hip hop will emerge as a single most dominating sound in popular music.

Glice 06.25.2008 11:07 AM

Ah, it's this thread. Comes around about once every 6 months.

I've been surprised to find that I quite enjoy a lot of Bassline and Grime seems to have avoided flash-in-the-pan-ism, so maybe Ibiza Trance is the logical progression? It's certainly the last genre you'd expect to be good again.

Ultimately though, I haven't the energy to think about it.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.25.2008 11:08 AM

Don't worry, the mainstream will collapse in few years. There won't be a big stuff, a Neo New New wave or a New Mega Electro Metal... Only a million of little bands solely listenable on the net...

ALIEN ANAL 06.25.2008 11:12 AM

me and my friend discussed how back in the day elvis swinging his hips was seen as being really bad

and now all these extreme metal heads with blood and yikes knows what going on

so in the future music will be made from samples of rape victims and babies being slaughtered

nicfit 06.25.2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL
you just keep checking those points buddy
who knows when ill strike

what's this, cold rep war??
I might as well strike first, then :D!

ALIEN ANAL 06.25.2008 11:17 AM

you dont frighten me sir
im 2 strikes ahead of you

pbradley 06.25.2008 11:23 AM

I thought you were above the "feverish obsession with novelty" (or however it was worded)? Worrying about the future is such a waste of time. It's more than likely that whatever becomes massively popular is something you dislike or don't care about.

SYRFox 06.25.2008 11:46 AM

I myself can't help but thinking that the future of music will be made of a combination of electronic and electric. Sure, some - lots of - bands mixing those two things already exist, but I think that it's what's coming next.

Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 11:49 AM

"worrying" is your word dude. I am in no way worried or stressed or flustered. I am just curious, and have been ever since I started to see music, like art, and literature, and science, as a constantly evolving , near-living organism. (the past 20+ years)

I find it endlessly fascinating. and yes, there are ways to see the future, and be farsighted about it.

I am not talking about base novelty, I am talking about a completely new musical idiom, new musical languages, like hip hop/rap music did , like no wave did for a few years, like elvis and little richard and chuck berry and buddy holly did.

those who see the future clearer than others can get in on the ground floor.

StevOK 06.25.2008 12:16 PM

Here's to hoping humanity still has one great musical movement left in it. I want another Woodstock type culmination in my lifetime. Not that I want them to be playing the kind of music that was played at Woodstock, mind you.

acousticrock87 06.25.2008 01:13 PM

It's not. I think music has become too diverse to have new movements arising from the shadows. I think there will be blends of a lot of things (particularly rap, electronic, and screamo) with stuff its never touched (latin? jazz? classical?) But overall, it will probably start to diversify even more.

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez (Mars Volta) kind of has an idea of where it's going at the moment, though. A pallateable mix of salsa, prog, and jazz with traditional guitar rock.

Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 01:22 PM

those type of musical movements will always exist though, the merging and mixing of old genres to create a new flavor, but a flavor is not a new type of music in and of itself.
hip hop was a new thing unto itself, and sure it drew on the past but not in it's inherent structure, which was a new thing, made possible by a couple of DJ's and a few MC's.

house music/dance/electronica did the same thing, created a new musical world, and that too has fragmented, as they all do, into many many offshoots, each expanding their own little corner.

What I am curious about is if any of you have any guesses as to what type of music will be brought forth by the collective human consciousness in the future.
It ussually results from new musical instruments, such as electric guitar, the saxophone, turntables used as instruments, etc.

anyone out there making new musical instruments?

✌➬ 06.25.2008 01:25 PM

I can't wait till we have Mariachi and Hip-hop as one.

gmku 06.25.2008 01:42 PM

I think there will be a renewal of interest in the Beatles. We'll see all their albums reissued again, only this time they'll be "better than they've ever sounded."

Mark my words.

Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 01:43 PM

mariachi hop!

you already got hip hop/reggae/salsa mixed up in Reggaeton, out of Puerto Rico!

next thing will be conjunto hop!

Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
I think there will be a renewal of interest in the Beatles. We'll see all their albums reissued again, only this time they'll be "better than they've ever sounded."

Mark my words.


they will do this every 20 years until we are all long dead.

Onani Nic 06.25.2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez (Mars Volta) kind of has an idea of where it's going at the moment, though. A pallateable mix of salsa, prog, and jazz with traditional guitar rock.


Like Santana?

Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onani Nic
Like Santana?


EXACTLY

been there done that.

batreleaser 06.25.2008 02:16 PM

garagepunkpsychobillyneonowavenoisecoreblackdeathd igitalgrind

Dr. Eugene Felikson 06.25.2008 04:18 PM

Whatever it is. Let's hope that it's something beautiful. Something that commands the soul and is full of spirit. It shouldn't be fearful of exploration and experimentation. It's should pertain beautiful melody, mood, dissonance, elements of surprise and perhaps a calm of silence.

However, even with all that...I'm sure the general public will find a way to exploit it from the inside out and inevitably leave it to wither and die.

Rob Instigator 06.25.2008 04:22 PM

that does sound nice.

demonrail666 06.25.2008 04:24 PM

People will rediscover Volcano Suns, and then the shits really gonna hit the fan.

Glice 06.25.2008 04:27 PM

I'm still disappointed that the Welsh hip-hop scene never took off.

MellySingsDoom 06.25.2008 04:39 PM

The new wave of music will comprise of:

1. Shed music - like a Poundland version of House - instead of Masters at Work, there shall be ASBOnators. Imagine the Audio Bullys if they were actually any good.

2. Spodcore - hardcore punk-metal played by 13-year old nerds well into their Dungeon and Dragons. Bolt Thrower shall be their gods

3. Me "inventing" cutlery-electronics - essentially me playing the spoons and putting the resulting mess through distortion and so on. "Harold Steptoe meets Masonna", they will say.

4. Bumhall - dancehall music made by the gays, obviously. First big tune - "Bum Hi Hi" by Anal Banton.

johnnywinternoshow 06.25.2008 07:19 PM

I want to hear lots more like this. Primitive, tribal drumming with a bit of electronic droney stuff

terminal pharmacy 06.25.2008 08:28 PM

c/f

jonathan 06.26.2008 02:08 AM

electronic music will take over as the next big thing. I feel like this whole 8-bit fad is going to be really influential in pop music in the next 10-15 years.

ZEROpumpkins 06.26.2008 02:25 AM

I can't really see how there could be any new progressions in music. I think, at least for rock 'n' roll, it's evolved all it can since it's creation half a century ago.

Death & the Maiden 06.26.2008 02:34 AM

I'm pretty sure this is about something that will be completely new - not a combination of a few genres.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
I can't really see how there could be any new progressions in music. I think, at least for rock 'n' roll, it's evolved all it can since it's creation half a century ago.

That's what people would have said many years ago, and then something like hip-hop came along.

ZEROpumpkins 06.26.2008 02:59 AM

You can think as hard as you want, but there's nowhere music can go now that'd be totally original without being completely shit.

SYRFox 06.26.2008 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
You can think as hard as you want, but there's nowhere music can go now that'd be totally original without being completely shit.

O RLY??

Sorry, but I think you're wrong. Some - lots of - bands are totally original and rock.

sarramkrop 06.26.2008 03:09 AM

You can't really apply absolutism to music, that's why I like to be dragged by it wherever it goes.

_slavo_ 06.26.2008 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ✌➬
I can't wait till we have Mariachi and Hip-hop as one.


 

ZEROpumpkins 06.26.2008 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
O RLY??

Sorry, but I think you're wrong. Some - lots of - bands are totally original and rock.

Name a band, that isn't Battles, that has formed in the last few years and I will rebut you.

sarramkrop 06.26.2008 03:49 AM

Battles aren't an original band in the slightest, if it comes down to that.


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