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!@#$%! 04.04.2019 08:00 PM

porn don’s taxes

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.05.2019 01:36 AM

I want Bernie in 2020 so badly. He might be the only dude who even stands a chance.

Fuck off, Beto. Mr. Skateboarder punk band hacker pants. Why dont you go snowboardin with Kerry you left leaning centrist pile of dung

(would still vote for ya fam if you won primaries, im just joshing)

demonrail666 04.05.2019 02:23 AM

How do people see the Biden stuff affecting things? Will he ride it out? I made him frontrunner on the strength that the more progressive candidates will all steal votes off one another. But what if Biden drops out?

_tunic_ 04.05.2019 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Did you guys see what Trump said about wind energy / noise?

It's so fucking moronic that I cannot post it here.





so why is Trump against wind energy? the answer is simple:






GOLF!




sorry if I'm posting stuff you already know, if you don't then click the link and note the date: 2012. My Trump news is always one day old as I get it from the Daily Show which is always yesterday's episode.

h8kurdt 04.05.2019 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Did you guys see what Trump said about wind energy / noise?

It's so fucking moronic that I cannot post it here.


You honestly think he believes that? He knows how to appeal to the lowest common denominator and he knows it works. Think about before he even said he was running for president. He started spouting about Obama's birth certificate bollocks and he saw it was getting enough of a reception. That was him testing the waters to see if he had a chance to win an election. Ever since then he's pulled comments like the wind turbine stuff cos he knows that his core voters will go with it.

GravitySlips 04.05.2019 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I can't vote in your elections, or my own - there's one next month, but I'm only 17, so unfortunately I won't be able to vote our government out.


I sincerely hope Australia votes out the current crop of corrupt politicians, who are in the pocket of coal mining companies. After the summer you've just had, where indigenous species died of the heat, it should be a matter of urgency to vote in politicians who will prioritise Green energy policies.

ilduclo 04.05.2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
I want Bernie in 2020 so badly. He might be the only dude who even stands a chance.

Fuck off, Beto. Mr. Skateboarder punk band hacker pants. Why dont you go snowboardin with Kerry you left leaning centrist pile of dung

(would still vote for ya fam if you won primaries, im just joshing)



Jeez, you need to read up on Bernie’s past. He’s absolutely unelectable. The Republans would fucking destroy him. Worst candidate possible.:eek:

ilduclo 04.05.2019 09:03 AM

Next Fed appointee, Herman “nein, nein, nein” Cain. Wonder why Trimp likes him? Watch this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4ab91hHyk

!@#$%! 04.05.2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
Jeez, you need to read up on Bernie’s past. He’s absolutely unelectable. The Republans would fucking destroy him. Worst candidate possible.:eek:

past, present and future

he’s 50 kinds of wrong

he’s as much a demagogue as trump

making empty promises with high emotional appeal

and is not/has never been a democrat either

Skuj 04.05.2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You honestly think he believes that? He knows how to appeal to the lowest common denominator and he knows it works. Think about before he even said he was running for president. He started spouting about Obama's birth certificate bollocks and he saw it was getting enough of a reception. That was him testing the waters to see if he had a chance to win an election. Ever since then he's pulled comments like the wind turbine stuff cos he knows that his core voters will go with it.



I do actually think that he believes that stuff. And, consequently, the lowest common denominator is impressed, and, unfortunately, in America today, there is a very large lowest common denominator.

There. I said it.

!@#$%! 04.05.2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I do actually think that he believes that stuff. And, consequently, the lowest common denominator is impressed, and, unfortunately, in America today, there is a very large lowest common denominator.

There. I said it.


“An Antisocial Personality doesn’t believe his or her lies — but that doesn’t bother them. It’s actually worse than that. They are only concerned that their victim believes the lie and for that reason, if they suspect you aren’t totally accepting their current lie, they will offer additional lies and promises until you are convinced. ”

https://askthepsych.com/atp/2009/03/03/sociopath-lies/

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.05.2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
Jeez, you need to read up on Bernie’s past. He’s absolutely unelectable. The Republans would fucking destroy him. Worst candidate possible.:eek:


Inform me

!@#$%! 04.05.2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hairs missing

Sanders won 46% in the 2016 primary

so that translates to roughly 25% in the general then?

hairs missing 04.05.2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
so that translates to roughly 25% in the general then?


He's raised his profile pretty significantly since 2016, so no... I think he'll be a more formidable candidate this time. I'm confident that he would outperform Clinton, especially in crucial rust belt states.

I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination btw. I live in a swing state :(

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.05.2019 12:37 PM

^ I'm calling it now. It's gonna be Bernie or Beto.

Also yeah, I am too reaching the point where moneyhatting "Democrats" aren't left-wing enough for me at this point.

Fight the powers that be.

I'd vote for anyone left of Trump tbh. So like a dirty shop vac in my uncle's basement would suffice.

ilduclo 04.05.2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Inform me


I actually agree with many of the stances Sanders has taken in the past, but I think I am a serious outlier. Not so much on the rape fantasy writings of his 1970’s era, but I was always ok with the Sandinistas.

But, I don’t think that many folks in the US would like hardly ANY of it, therefore, I consider him completely unelectable.


Read it ( and think of how the AtwaterFux Newswing of the Republan party will frame these facts)

Sad but true


https://blog.politicsmeanspolitics.c...e-c1032187e02c

Skuj 04.05.2019 04:50 PM

Buttigieg is a very impressive individual. I thought it was all a joke at first, then I listened to him at length a few times.

However, there is no fucking way that America will put an openly gay and married man in the Whitehouse in 2021. And it makes me sad to say that.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.05.2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hairs missing
I'm willing to put my differences with centrists aside to get Trump out of office, but I still think the party needs to move in a more left-wing direction to prevent a Trump-like politician from getting elected again... Their default position on healthcare is still to defend a right-wing plan that was literally crafted by the Heritage Foundation and supported by Mitt Romney. They won't even actively push for a public option.

You may be right about Sanders and Beto being the final two, but there's this mayor in Indiana who's been gaining a lot of traction lately... I'm gonna have to look his name up

Edit: Pete Buttigieg

That name alone should disqualify him.

I'm curious to see if Andrew Yang can make UBI a mainstream idea, similar to what Sanders did for Medicare for All in the previous election. He reached the fundraising threshold needed to be in the debates in a relatively short amount of time...


You'd probably really dig Mike Gravel. Hes a dude running, not to become president, but just to get on stage during the primaries and argue far left talking points

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...g-his-twitter/

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Their ultimate goal wasn’t to win the election but rather to qualify him for the Democratic debates, so that he could use that platform to “issue a critique of American militarism, plutocracy, and inaction on climate,” as his newly-created website states.

Apparently homeboy is even a 9/11 truther according to Vice. 2020 is gonna be a wild ride

!@#$%! 04.06.2019 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
However, there is no fucking way that America will put an openly gay and married man in the Whitehouse in 2021.

i don’t think that’s the obstacle you think it is

Skuj 04.06.2019 12:31 PM

I wish. I hope I'm wrong. He is the mayor of a city in a red state, right?

Skuj 04.06.2019 12:33 PM

So far, Buttigieg is the Dem who is talking the most sensibly, imho.

Biden's pre-entry is not going so well. (And he's too fucking old!!)

ilduclo 04.06.2019 01:08 PM

there's a lot not to like about Biden

https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/joe-biden-record/

ilduclo 04.06.2019 01:46 PM

Jury fines man $1 for punching white nationalist in Charlottesville

"How much fun can you have for only 1 dollar?"


 

!@#$%! 04.06.2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
So far, Buttigieg is the Dem who is talking the most sensibly, imho.

Biden's pre-entry is not going so well. (And he's too fucking old!!)

i listened to him just the other day and he sounded positively geriatric. by which i mean he should think about a rocking chair by the fireplace not an intense campaign.

having said that, i’ll vote for an inanimate object if it can beat trump. he’s getting more insane and repulsive by the hour.

i figure even if bernie got elected (shudder) no congress would ever nationalize the economy for him, and the followup midterms would probably manacle him permanently. so... yeha. but he’s not a democrat.

i’m still waiting for my candidate to show up (i don’t know who that is yet). i’m busy learning a new business and there are just too many candidates to follow, so i simply don’t have the SSD and RAM capacity to follow the electoral circus at the moment.

!@#$%! 04.06.2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I wish. I hope I'm wrong. He is the mayor of a city in a red state, right?

oh i missed this earlier.

yes he's in a red state but in a university town (notre dame) and on the northern edge of the state. he's closer to chicago and detroit than to the southern border with kentucky. real split there between south and midwest.

but anyway not saying it won't be an issue, just not enough i think to make him unelectable.

i mean we already had racists and bigots who liked to use obama's middle name as a wink to imply "kenyan muslim". but he won election and reelection anyway, being black and having the middle name hussein. so being gay and buttigieg is not a real obstacle i think.

gay people in this country are almost completely mainstream these days. not just in the media but also in politics. krysten sinema, who is divorced and identifies as bisexual, won a senate seat in deep-red arizona just recently. and that's a statewide election, not a demographic pocket. so, yeah. i don't think it's a huge issue.

and sure there will always be lunatics and imbeciles, but that can't be helped.

so, while gay is now normal, contemporary gender panics are centered around transgender people instead. just check out tesla's posts for reference.

Skuj 04.06.2019 04:38 PM

I will not, EVER again, check out tesla's posts!! :)

!@#$%! 04.06.2019 04:43 PM

haa haaa haaaa

i understand

i’ve always had a scientific curiosity and have looked at fecal samples under a microscope, so i can handle it more or less

ilduclo 04.06.2019 05:08 PM

Herman's stock picks..........best avoid

 


2014 recco's by the Cain (just a FEW of MANY):

Virtus Oil & Gas (VOIL) “could yield stratospheric gains for shareholders who move in immediately. Virtus Oil & Gas VOIL suddenly finds itself conservatively valued in excess of $70.71 a share*...
And you can buy VOIL right now for around $1.50!”

Current stock price: $0.025.

American Heritage International (AHII) “could easily double or triple in the next 18-24 months. Currently trading for about $1-2, the stock could easily double or triple in the next 18-24 months”

Current stock price: $0.00.

Ener-Core (ENCR) could be “the NEXT 884% Industrial Cleantech monster winner. I discovered this company from one of the only investment banks that covers smaller industrial clean technology companies.”

Current stock price: $0.10.

Centor Energy (CNTO) could “climb to $25 and from there onwards to $100. Centor Energy (CNTO) just went public. Shares are now around $1, and as my just-released Special Report reveals, early investors are looking at a 1,200% winner. ”

Current stock price: $0.0011.

that's called the "MINUS 99.99%" plan

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.07.2019 12:58 AM

Has Yang ever played up the fact that he could be our first Asian-American president?


 


Like that's a monumental thing. Just like Buttburger being the first openly gay president.

Not like it really matters as much as platforms they're proposing.

Speaking of which, I think I have an episode of JRE to watch.

!@#$%! 04.07.2019 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Buttburger

seriously, man?

please tell me it was the autocorrect...

!@#$%! 04.07.2019 06:26 AM

anyway, speaking of andrew yang, the other day a friend tried to get me to watch a 2h video with the guy and i do not have time, plus that format bores me

but i checked his website, and unlike beto or buttigieg’s face displays and charisma appeals, his website is full of ideas and proposals

also he does not stand on tables

very refreshing

anyway, love that his economic argument is not one of resentment and stupidity but shows an understanding and valid points one can debate and accept or reject on a rational basis

e.g.:

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/human-capitalism/

of course everyone more or less focuses on voting themselves some free money, and that’s the bait i guess (that was my friend’s big selling point for this guy, lmao), but look past your own personal greed for free shit and some of what he says makes sense.

i don’t think singapore applies here, it is only an example of many variants after all, but the proposed economic measurements are way more intriguing



eta: also i agree that the purpose of the market is to serve the public. which is what it’s always been great at. and it’s still the best mechanism for that. much more so than central planners. and tweaking the incentives as he proposes seems a better approach than bernie/warren’s “cops cops cops” ideas.

...

the value added tax otoh i don’t know.... expensive shit

Skuj 04.07.2019 02:38 PM

Symbols, you often talk about a candidate's ideas and proposals. And I get it. I really do.

But, what ideas and proposals did Trump run on? There was the wall, and a couple of other vague things. Clinton had ideas and proposals up the ying-yang, and what good did it do her?

!@#$%! 04.07.2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Symbols, you often talk about a candidate's ideas and proposals. And I get it. I really do.

But, what ideas and proposals did Trump run on? There was the wall, and a couple of other vague things. Clinton had ideas and proposals up the ying-yang, and what good did it do her?

his “idea,” more of a marketing slogan, was to “make america great again”

he sold it like diplomas to trump university, as baseball hats

it was pure marketing bullshit that capitalized on the feelings of frustration and disenfranchisement of the uneducated white working class, plus a deal with the evangelicals for supreme court judges, plus tax bones thrown to tea partiers.

he’s actually delivered in his shoddy way on those promises: tariffs, personal interventions in the economy, christian white males in the court, and tax cuts for the rich. awful, but he’s done it. he keeps screaming for the wall which his base loves.

hillary could not sell cold water to a person stranded in a desert. i consider myself, perhaps arrogantly, an educated and well read person, capable of listening to a complex argument, but she’d put me to sleep with her lawyer style talk. every “idea” (so many of them, such a lack of a central theme and core message) explained in the most convoluted fashion possible.

yes she proposed good policies, but as a candidate she was utter shit. we all know this.

i just watched chapelle’s “equanimity” this morning and he put how it felt to vote for hillary in the funniest of ways. watch it if you get a chance.

fyi warren is doing the same thing as hilary. great at policy, AWFUL on message. she was my favorite for years then she takes a microphone and oh the sorrow.

i have not listened to yang speak or how he explains shit (maybe i should after i finish this project that has me swamped) so i dont know how well he can sell his proposals but “human capitalism” sounds (like bush’s “compassionate conservatism”) muuuuch better that hillary’s “stronger together” or bolshevik bernie’s “socialism!” (which means statism, which means a sluggish economy, which means distributing poverty.)

so... what is the question behind these questions?

i thought you were driving at something

Skuj 04.07.2019 05:57 PM

I thought Nielsen was one of The Best People??

!@#$%! 04.07.2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I thought Nielsen was one of The Best People??

he's been trying to push her out since forever because she insists in trying to uphold the law not just follow the führer's capricious orders.

Skuj 04.07.2019 06:29 PM

Did she actually quit, or was she fired? (This is important!)

I expect the insulting tweets to follow soon.

Skuj 04.07.2019 06:30 PM

Maybe there will be another book in 6 months. :)

!@#$%! 04.07.2019 06:35 PM

papers said resigned

the kakistocracy marches on

Skuj 04.07.2019 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
papers said resigned

the kakistocracy marches on


"papers" LOL.

tw2113 04.07.2019 07:03 PM

Looking things over, we're still fucked without lube


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