you've got some catching up to do, old man!

What T&B said.

What are you some pathetic snob?

I work in a bookshop & so consider book snobbery to be acceptable for me.

And I do have to resist the urge to tell comic-buyers that we do sell real books, with WORDS and no pictures. Don't know if I'd call them spackers, I've just always thought they must be a bit lazy.

Jesus christ. It's called having a broad spectrum of readig. If you actually sat down and read some of the good comics out there you'd be surprised how well it compares next to books for emotion and feelings.

True.

the (comic) books of chris ware, dan clowes, the hernandez brothers, charles burns, yoshihiro tatsumi, joe sacco, katsuhiro otomo, to name just a handful are just as intelligent, thought provoking and insightful as any words-only book, and probably more enjoyable because not only to do you get great writing you also get to see some beautiful art work.

there is something odd about men who read comics i find. open to counter post etc. although i do find some of them to be quite good. i mean the comic comic type. i used to live with a guy like that, i am scared by it and thankfully not him.

Thank god someone here has sense. Rep coming your way T&B hon.

there's more to fucking comics than superheroes and shitty gag strips.

that is what i am saying as well.

hernandez bros rule



however, claiming for them to have some kind of supreme intellectual caliber is a bit misguided...

Read that a couple of months back, found it comfortable if a little bland. Think the weight of the middle-class angst kind of over-balances it, but a nice readable little sketch all the same. I'd be interested to get other opinions.

At the moment I'm reading Querelle by Jean Genet which I'd reccommend.

The apologies for comic books not being as "high brow" as other literature just don't work for me. Fans of comic books know many of them are better than much of the supposed great works of traditional literature. And we don't have to call them "graphic novels," either, to give them merit.

The same kinds of apologies have been tried by people who say they only like "intelligent" rock and roll, while the true fan knows rock and roll is great even when it's dumb.

I read books all the time, but I like comics, too. Less for reading value than for collectability, though. I used to love X-Men, so I still like X-Men comics. I have an extensive collection of Gambit comics. Trying to find all of them is way more fun than reading them.

i love comic books

i love books

but in a good book the meat is more densely packed-- you can't beat the bandwidth of well-chosen words. in the sense that words can more closely pursue a thought. give me the comic-book equivalent of cervantes & we'll do a comparison. or shakespeare if you prefer dee eenglish.

I was addicted to this as a kid:

i think this guy is a genius btw

I've still yet to read anything solely by him. Although I have read American Splendourof which he drew some comics for.

And this:

Helter Skelter?