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choc e-Claire 01.24.2021 11:00 PM

 


NIN - The Fragile

Kuhb 01.25.2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
im about to listen to monk's brilliant corners

 



So good

!@#$%! 01.25.2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb
So good

yeah. the title track is insane, but the whole album is great.

!@#$%! 01.25.2021 03:11 PM

 


im on a hard bop kick...

Skuj 01.25.2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
 


NIN - The Fragile


I fucking loved that album when it came out ('99?) and I still do. I remember a bunch of meh reviews at the time, but I think many have reconsidered.

!@#$%! 01.25.2021 05:06 PM

 

!@#$%! 01.25.2021 05:50 PM

 

choc e-Claire 01.25.2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I remember a bunch of meh reviews at the time, but I think many have reconsidered.

The 1999 Pitchfork review gave it a 2.0, absolutely tearing into it (same guy who gave NYC Ghosts and Flowers a 0.0, and Kid A a 10.0). In 2017, someone else reviewed it with the definitive edition coming out, and that got an 8.7 - probably much closer to the actual score.

Of course, it's easily better than The Downward Spiral - it's all so expansive, the arrangements and atmosphere are incredible...plus the vinyl remaster sounds fucking amazing.

_slavo_ 01.26.2021 11:51 AM

Now that I'm thinking about it, would you believe that in my whole life, I haven't heard a SINGLE FUCKING SONG by the Nine Inch Nails? Not a single one, I swear.
I'm 40 years old.

I'm going to listen to something right now.

Diesel 01.26.2021 12:25 PM

Aphex Twin on the compositions given to Trent:

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'"I never heard the originals," he admits of the two Nine Inch Nails remixes included here. "I still haven't. I don't want to, either – or my remixes, for that matter." The great irony is that the tracks in question are vastly more interesting than anything Nine Inch Nails have managed – desultory blendings of oinking beats and musing orchestration evoke a world more bleak and twisted than even Trent Reznor could imagine'.

To which I wholeheartedly concur.

Their only good song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3PQEw6O4U

greenlight 01.26.2021 02:37 PM

 


Ellen Fullman began developing The Long String Instrument in her St. Paul, Minnesota studio in 1980 and moved to Brooklyn the following year. Inspired by composer and instrument builder Harry Partch, Fullman's large-scale work creates droning, organ-like overtones that are as unique in the world of sound as her vision of the instrument itself.

Along with her 1985 debut album – appropriately titled The Long String Instrument – Fullman's only output in the 1980s would be two self-released cassettes, In The Sea and Work For Four Players And 90 Strings, recorded in 1987 at an unfinished office tower in Austin, Texas. This double LP collection features music from both cassettes as well as a previously unreleased piece from 1988 at De Fabriek in Den Bosch, Holland.

Ethereal and exquisitely paced, these rare recordings capture minimalism's quiet radiance. Within a musical landscape that has seen the rise of contemporary drone practitioners like Ellen Arkbro and Kali Malone, Fullman is sure to find a legion of fans.

The Soup Nazi 01.26.2021 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
Now that I'm thinking about it, would you believe that in my whole life, I haven't heard a SINGLE FUCKING SONG by the Nine Inch Nails? Not a single one, I swear.
I'm 40 years old.

I'm going to listen to something right now.


NOOOO you were on the right path...

The Soup Nazi 01.26.2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Wait....you like His Bruceness?


I'll let Mr. Strummer explain:

 

!@#$%! 01.26.2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlight
Ellen Fullman ...

hey this was great!

i found and listened to this


 


https://allnightflightrecords.com/co...a-wong-harbors

excellent, a new favorite, thanks so much, will listen to more

choc e-Claire 01.26.2021 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
I'll let Mr. Strummer explain:


It's a grim irony that you can read "pretentious Martian from Venus" and not make the connection.

Anyway... MBV's self-titled (2013)
 

The Soup Nazi 01.27.2021 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
...


 

choc e-Claire 01.27.2021 12:27 AM

 

"Nooooo! You can't just ignore my musical opinions!"

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 12:50 AM

lmfao

cmon friends, this is funny but let's stick to the whaddaya lissening and skip the validation seeking

im up late reading and i had the eternal airports on

 


i don't give a shit if anyone else likes it or not but if anyone else needs to chill the fuck out this probably is a good aural pharmaceutical to induce the deep relax

now quit yelling :D

post what you're listening to

ps ok i gave skuj a tiiiiny bit of shit but it was like one sheep shit size not a hot wet steaming cow patty and hopefully with a smile not serious business and only after he said "i cant figure this place out" as if idk.

but i digress

im putting on the noise cancelling headphones so i cant hear any more yelling :D

choc e-Claire 01.27.2021 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
im up late reading and i had the eternal airports on

 

I approve of this message. I should listen to some ambient later meself.

The Soup Nazi 01.27.2021 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
im up late reading and i had the eternal airports on

 



And just like spiking a drink, if you feel like fucking shit up you can always listen to the ultimate mashup:

 


Seriously, though, here's what Robert Wyatt said to Uncut last year:

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Uncut: One of your collaborations that's sometimes overlooked is your work on Brian Eno's Ambient 1: Music For Airports. How did that come about?

RW: I was first introduced to him by [Matching Mole bassist] Bill McCormick; he played on our song "Gloria Gloom" and then I did some stuff on a terrific record called Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy). I love his singing, and his songs and his words. When some elephants get rejected from their herds, they sometimes get together in a rogue elephant herd — so I think in a sense me and Brian were kind of rogue elephants. We were free, because we weren't in groups. I didn't know about the "music as wallpaper" theory then — Brian just said, "Can you play some piano?" I played and played and then he took out a section that he could repeat ad infinitum, and then he did everything else you hear on it. Working with Brian is great, because we don't have the same music in our heads, but his sheer presence makes me do things differently in the studio, and it's just great talking about music, politics, everything.

The Soup Nazi 01.27.2021 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
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And the mindless trolling keeps on going. Here's the thing: you're perfectly aware that I can't engage in a full-on flame war with you, so you continue to troll and throw shit my way over and over. You're nothing but a manipulative little one, arentcha.

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 01:52 AM

heheh ive heard that and it's good. i do listen to metal machine music as an ambient record anyway so it's just like a room with 2 wallpapers and it makes perfect sense

and im wearing noise cancelling headphones!

anyway a little more late night listening with my book:

 


i can never get into this band but giving it another go. "phaedra" is a good start...

The Soup Nazi 01.27.2021 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
anyway a little more late night listening with my book:

 


i can never get into this band but giving it another go. "phaedra" is a good start...


Two things: one, I can't have music on when I'm reading, and two... I'm with Lester Bangs on Tangerine Dream: "the poor man's Fripp & Eno". :D

greenlight 01.27.2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hey this was great!

i found and listened to this


 


https://allnightflightrecords.com/co...a-wong-harbors

excellent, a new favorite, thanks so much, will listen to more


It is cool no? I am glad you like it. I like it too, cool stuff.

choc e-Claire 01.27.2021 08:59 AM

 

loud, atmospheric solo shoegaze project about gender and self-acceptance. one of my crush's favourite records, and one of mine as well.

Savage Clone 01.27.2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Two things: one, I can't have music on when I'm reading, and two... I'm with Lester Bangs on Tangerine Dream: "the poor man's Fripp & Eno". :D


Listen to Ultima Thule or Electronic Meditation and get back to us on that.

Savage Clone 01.27.2021 09:47 AM

https://youtu.be/5N1fsblUb9U

Diesel 01.27.2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
loud, atmospheric solo shoegaze project about gender and self-acceptance. one of my crush's favourite records, and one of mine as well.


I like!

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 11:51 AM

i need a little more coffee this morning so...

 


this was a nice documentary too btw

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Listen to Ultima Thule or Electronic Meditation and get back to us on that.


hah, they're such a prolific band it's hard to know where to begin with them.

 



i actually listened to a bit of electronic meditation last night, and liked it a lot, but it did not fit the required soothing mood-- made me kinda jumpy, like listening to a bunch of restless ghosts, which is why i settled on that virgin compilation, and saved their first album for later.

and now awake in the middle of the day it's a great listen. a very good chaos.

i'll check out ultima thule later on so thanks for the suggestions.

h8kurdt 01.27.2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Two things: one, I can't have music on when I'm reading, and two... I'm with Lester Bangs on Tangerine Dream: "the poor man's Fripp & Eno". :D


Woah. WOAH! Step off dissing Tangerine Dream. That run from Phaedra to Stratosfear was just perfect.

h8kurdt 01.27.2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
lmfao

cmon friends, this is funny but let's stick to the whaddaya lissening and skip the validation seeking

im up late reading and i had the eternal airports on

 


i don't give a shit if anyone else likes it or not but if anyone else needs to chill the fuck out this probably is a good aural pharmaceutical to induce the deep relax

now quit yelling :D

post what you're listening to

ps ok i gave skuj a tiiiiny bit of shit but it was like one sheep shit size not a hot wet steaming cow patty and hopefully with a smile not serious business and only after he said "i cant figure this place out" as if idk.

but i digress

im putting on the noise cancelling headphones so i cant hear any more yelling :D


I had a period where after going to the ten year anniversary of ATP festival I was thoroughly bloody miserable. I was working in a supermarket job I hated and couldn't stomach any music. Except for two albums. This one and Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen (any haters of Bruce need only listen to that album). I specifically have a memory of that period driving to work round these country roads, in December, in the pitch black all the while in the middle of a snowstorm and thinking "Jesus, I'm basically living the front cover of Nebraska and it's as depressing as it looks"

Eno and Harold Budd are my two gods for ambient music. Love them.

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
I This one and Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen (any haters of Bruce need only listen to that album).


cinematic lyrics! flannery o'connor + terrence malick's badlands:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_(song)

i promise to give it a good college try again but im not big on words-based music, and generally (not always) i do not like springsteen's musical style (but i recognize he's known for good lyrics, bit of a poet or whatever.)

his song born to run does give me goosebumps--not out of anything he sez about baby and strapped engines or tramps or whatever, which for me gets on the way of the thing actually, but just the ongoing crescendo in the wagnerian phil spectorism of it all is what does it for me.

the words guy that is my preferred words guy is lou reed who was just... goddammit.

but okay i will try, but whether that works for me or not it shouldn't validate or invalidate your experience yes? as this is not a contest nor a quest for approval.

h8kurdt 01.27.2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

but okay i will try, but whether that works for me or not it shouldn't validate or invalidate your experience yes? as this is not a contest.


Trust me I long ago accepted that Bruce (and Queen whilst we're here) isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. Definitely not needing validation.

Nebraska is different album by him. It's a four track demo that he had intended on 'e-streeting' up but couldn't get it right. Eventually he realised that the demos are perfect as they are a released them.

As a side note-Bruce's intention was for his next album to be the same style of just him and an acoustic. However, his manager Jon Landau told him he'd best go back to the e street to solidify his legacy. That album ended up being Born in the USA. The rest is history.

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Bruce (and Queen


im just a poor boy
 

nobody loves me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


ha ha, you know i love queen as well and make no apologies about it. first time i heard sheer heart attack as a child it blew my socks off (one of the few likes from childhood i've preserved.) i loved them all the way up to the game--the disco one that came afterwards broke my heart, even though i liked that bowie song after all. but anyway thar was my last one... i think it was a cassette. now i got a long queen playlist to keep me awake on roadtrips and it's FUN.

as for nebraska, i did try again today but... it's just the wrong music for me. i stopped the album after 1.5 songs, right in the middle of "atlantic city." i just can't stand it. the music i mean. it bothers me. i won't elaborate on that.

i used to have this literature professor who loved to quote from "nebraska," but those are words and not music. i very rarely hear songs as words. maybe it would be different if i did.

first time i heard springsteen as a kid it was probably born in the usa and it... annoyed me. :(

many years later i heard born TO RUN and it did something to me and i bought the cd and then... found myself listening to just the title song out of the many tracks to choose from. damn, i hate the cd era, you'd get stuck with a package of unwanteds just for one song and unlike vinyl there were no singles :D

anyway springsteen is clearly not the artist for me but please enjoy what you love.

and damn, that winter sounds grim. glad you made it to the other side of it.

Savage Clone 01.27.2021 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hah, they're such a prolific band it's hard to know where to begin with them.

 



i actually listened to a bit of electronic meditation last night, and liked it a lot, but it did not fit the required soothing mood-- made me kinda jumpy, like listening to a bunch of restless ghosts, which is why i settled on that virgin compilation, and saved their first album for later.

and now awake in the middle of the day it's a great listen. a very good chaos.

i'll check out ultima thule later on so thanks for the suggestions.


For soothing but not boring, I would recommend ricochet or zeit. The ones I suggested earlier are definitely more bombastic for them. Ricochet is a wonderful slow burn.

!@#$%! 01.27.2021 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
For soothing but not boring, I would recommend ricochet or zeit. The ones I suggested earlier are definitely more bombastic for them. Ricochet is a wonderful slow burn.

great, ricochet is inside that massive compilation i started listening to last night, which includes 4 albums (phaedra, rubycon, ricochet, stratosfear) plus a bunch of other stuff (it's really a long list). but i'll say phaedra fit the bill yesterday.

see track listing here: https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-v...8-mw0002087099

!@#$%! 01.28.2021 12:48 PM

last night i ended up listening to the 2nd tangerine dream album

 


begins as a continuation of "electronic meditation," veers into psychedelia, adds a crazy organ, then moves into the beginnings of what would years later be called "space music" (a trippier new agey form of ambient i guess) then ends with the glorious krautrock of ultima thule pt 1... my only criticism of this final track is that it was too damn short, i loved the drums and wanted the whole thing to go on for another 20 minutes.

all of these pieces of music i think were unusual for their time, and all of them were very different from each other, which i guess foreshadows the diversity of what would become their future production.

on to the next one later...

The Soup Nazi 01.28.2021 07:04 PM

^ ^ and ^: I... won't say anything.

(That was some evident passive-aggressive shit. :D)

!@#$%! 01.29.2021 10:06 AM

beginning with the third one...

 


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those buzzing strings are great, so fingers crossed for the rest...

eta: was a pretty great dark ambient record. probably my favorite so far: more coherent as an album than the previous two, and better sounding.


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