I have sucked at procuring and going after new/previously unheard music lately. Scrolling through this page, I don’t recognize a lot of the covers I’m seeing. :(

I don't think that would cause Mr. Sweatpants to worry. :D Where is NR, anyway? I picture him in his sweatpants, sitting on the couch in his basement, catching up on his soaps while spooning some sort of cereal...

I dunno. He’s ghosting me.

Nah, lots of things can drive a cat to get off the matrix for a while. For instance, sitting on the couch in their basement, catching up on their soaps while spooning some sort of cereal...

He loves dependable songs and dependable sweats but not good old dependable Severian.

Fucking METAL.

Various Artist - Venus Attacks......female noise comp

I hate metal. Hate it. And yet I dig Sabbath from their self-titled to Vol. 4. And I like Motörhead's Ace Of Spades too. So... I don't really hate metal? :confused:

I kinda hate almost metal too.

Love first several Sabbath albums and Motörhead and shit like early Metallica and Slayer and some WITTR and new shöehäzë metal (lol) like Deafheaven and The Body (sometimes).

But I’m definitely not a metal “dude.”

Is Sleep Metal?
Sleep fucking kills.

Yeah, no, Metallica I fucking HATE, ain't confused about that.

Bah. Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are essential, son.

the problem with metallica is they had to open their fucking mouths instead of shutting the fuck up and playing their instruments

actually that’s the problem with a lot of bands

Sabbath and Motorhead are both hard rock bands, even though they both had profound influence on metal. Hard Rock. Lemmy was pretty insistent about referring to Motorhead as a rock and roll band.

I think the first band that may have been referred to as heavy metal in the Press was actually Sir Lord Baltimore of all things.

Give bands like ISIS or Jesu a try perhaps. There's so much in metal to love l. My favorite genre.


Sleep is stoner metal and its amazing

Yeah, Sabbath were obviously a key influence on Metal but Priest brought all the elements together to really create that 'classic' Metal sound. Rapid Fire off the British Steel album marks a real break for me between Heavy/Hard Rock and what most people would immediately recognise as Heavy Metal.

Or put another way. It's possible to like Sabbath without liking most Heavy Metal but you couldn't say you like Judas Priest but don't generally like Heavy Metal.

Agree

LA GUNS!

SLAUGHTER!

WARRANT!

CINDERELLA!

RATT!

WINGER!

MOTLEY FUCKING CRUE!

These are the best bands ever. The singers hit high notes and the guitarists are fast. Do you losers even like music?

lmao

I would also argue that while hair metal has the word metal in the term, it's not metal. It's Glam Rock. 80s style rather than 70s. I had to live through that in real time and it was pretty awful.

I do miss the days when high tenor piercing singing was the standard rather than guttural growling all the time and everyone sounding basically the same because of it. I loved when a doom band had a killer vocalist like pentagram or candlemass et al. Spirit Adrift seem to be bringing it back, as do Khemmis.
Khemmis definitely strike me as a metal band that people who don't generally listen to metal can like, and they're way better than most bands that fall into that category.

but did you hate led zeppelin? i forget

cuz im thinking all those metal singers were trying to sound like plant

or ozzy

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i mean those who set the standard

I do have a very tough time with Robert Plant but I think that's understandable. I love the Rhythm Section in that band though.
I think the real template for the kind of singing I'm talking about would be more in the operatic Style set up by Dickinson and Halford, and I say that being not much of a maiden fan at all. And I'm pretty sure Freddie Mercury and the vocal stylings of bands like Uriah Heep had to play into their Vision substantially.
Mercyful Fate were basically a more extreme and actually satanic version of the priest style in most ways, for instance.
Ozzy seems to be a strong contender in the Doom category however. But his voice is more limited than what I'm talking about. Even though he's certainly a great singer. Or was for a while at least!


(For my dadrock screecher, I prefer Ian Gillan of Deep Purple way over plant. Blackmore over Page too, for that matter)

aaaaaahhhh

i see (i hear) what you mean, i think

This confuses me, because I was fucking around with my list but did actually end up browsing some of those bands and related ones. Damn near every singer sounded the same.

I agree the guttural thing is repetitious too, but I can't hear why the high piercing gets a pass.

i wasnt arguing taste but advancing the notion that the piercing tenor in metal had descended from him

then i realized that you meant not-so-piercing

Stylistics sameyness is definitely a thing, but a lot of times I find it easier to tell one singer from another with clean vocals than with the standard demon Screech or guttural growl. I know quite a few female fronted death metal bands where you definitely have no idea whether the person is male or female, and that's kind of cool in a way but also shows how reductive the style is.

I'm never going to mistake King Diamond for Rob Halford, or Messiah for Bruce Dickinson.

I'm also talking about a style which was more established in the new wave of British heavy metal era and not the Proto metal Hard Rock era, if you know what I mean.

yes

but those people grew up worshipping those dinos

and i hear plant in scorpions for example

[though they are german]

e.g. see

https://www.planetrock.com/news/rock...ed-everything/


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“(Klaus) was Rudolf’s favourite singer but Rudolf can’t really play guitar so he had nothing to offer to get him in his territory so he sent his little brother who was doing pretty well,” Michael explained.

“Klaus, he was a great singer so we had the potential of becoming the next Robert Plant and Jimmy Page or something like that. We were actually playing Zeppelin, Rory Gallagher, Deep Purple and all of that stuff.

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and okay maybe they were not THAT metal after all ha ha ha

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the freddy mercury link to iron maiden blew my mind a little though

hey, curious to know where you’d place this

https://youtu.be/Zs5NOrYYV2s

Starts with a disco beat! That is a surprisingly good track. I nearly danced. I can picture girls as well as boys digging it.

found another:

Rock Cellar Magazine: Growing up, before metal existed, who were your influences?

Rob Halford: For me, as a singer, I loved listening to people like Janis Joplin and even people like Elvis and Little Richard. The voice is such a remarkable instrument. I always think when you’re singing, you’re singing from your soul. I get often asked, where do you find the way to scream so hard? If you listen to what Robert Plant was doing in those early Led Zeppelin albums or what Janis is doing with Big Brother & the Holding Company, it makes you understand what the human voice can do.

Rock Cellar Magazine: Can we hear any of those influences in your music?

Rob Halford: On the track called Revolution on the Angel of Retribution album, I was definitely channeling Robert Plant. You can hear it in the outro section mostly.


http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/20...er-spinal-tap/

Halford is a case of the student far surpassing the master, it would seem.

Anyone else digging into remastered White Album?

Listening to "Night Falls on Hoboken" by Yo La Tengo has come to signify bedtime for my daughter. After bedtime and long day I listen to Daughters' You Won't Get What You Want with a beer. Then fall asleep to Sun Kil Moon's This Is My Dinner.

sure if that is your taste, but my point was about genealogies, and how the standard that you value came to be

I think Halford's vocals were more compatible with Priest's music than Page's were with LZ's.