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Rob Instigator 10.11.2016 09:00 AM

 

Severian 10.11.2016 10:08 AM

*spreads rep to Rob... is happy to see that he can do so once again, indicating that he has apparently spread sufficient reputation points around*

Severian 10.11.2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
This shit is actually relatable and deep as hell. Remember that line from Heard 'Em Say -"people in your life are seasons"..


"And anything that happen is for a reason
And niggas gun-clappin and keep to squeezin'
And Grandma keep prayin' and keep believin' /
in Jesus and one day that she see him /
Till they walk in his footsteps and try to be him
The devil is alive I feel him breathin'!"

... transcribed from memory, so please excuse any errors.
This is one of my favorite Ye verses. And "Heard 'Em Say" is one of those songs that, on paper, sounds like it should suck hard. Adam Levine? But I can't imagine it any other way. Kind of like "Homecoming" in that sense. But Heard is a better song.

My dad wrote me after the Kanye show. He's always appreciated my taste in music but he can't get his head around why I like Kanye so much. But he saw footage from the Saint Pablo tour and read glowing reviews of the show I attended and he wrote to say, "Ok, so... where do I start?"

Keep in mind, my father's in his '60s. I wasn't going to tell him to listen to "I'm in it" or... well, anything after 808s really. But he's a huge Beatles fan, so I recommended "Heard 'Em Say" because of the clear influence of Rubber Soul and Revolver on the chamber-music vibe of Late Registration.

He listened and wrote back... after years of kind of being a dick about Kanye, even when "Only One" came out... and he said, "Ok. I get it now".

:)

Severian 10.11.2016 10:37 AM

I also recommended "RoboCop." I don't think he listened to that one. Heh. Maybe he finally has some respect for Kanye, or at least my Kanye fanaticism, but he's not going to become a fan any time soon.

Posed an interesting conundrum though. How do you respond when your geriatric parent asks you for Kanye West recommendations? With my mom it was much easier (one listen to "Hey Mama" and she was like, "Ok, he's not so bad") but my dad really posed a challenge.

pepper_green 10.11.2016 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
He listened and wrote back... after years of kind of being a dick about Kanye, even when "Only One" came out... and he said, "Ok. I get it now".


maybe yr were being the dick instead.

Severian 10.11.2016 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
maybe yr were being the dick instead.


1. that doesn't make sense any kind of sense
2. nope
3. shut up

louder 10.12.2016 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
"And anything that happen is for a reason
And niggas gun-clappin and keep to squeezin'
And Grandma keep prayin' and keep believin' /
in Jesus and one day that she see him /
Till they walk in his footsteps and try to be him
The devil is alive I feel him breathin'!"

... transcribed from memory, so please excuse any errors.
This is one of my favorite Ye verses. And "Heard 'Em Say" is one of those songs that, on paper, sounds like it should suck hard. Adam Levine? But I can't imagine it any other way. Kind of like "Homecoming" in that sense. But Heard is a better song.

My dad wrote me after the Kanye show. He's always appreciated my taste in music but he can't get his head around why I like Kanye so much. But he saw footage from the Saint Pablo tour and read glowing reviews of the show I attended and he wrote to say, "Ok, so... where do I start?"

Keep in mind, my father's in his '60s. I wasn't going to tell him to listen to "I'm in it" or... well, anything after 808s really. But he's a huge Beatles fan, so I recommended "Heard 'Em Say" because of the clear influence of Rubber Soul and Revolver on the chamber-music vibe of Late Registration.

He listened and wrote back... after years of kind of being a dick about Kanye, even when "Only One" came out... and he said, "Ok. I get it now".

:)

I know my dad (who's about the same age as yours) will never bother to understand Kanye or hip-hop in general so that's really dope.

I listened to Heard 'Em Say again with the Beatles in mind earlier and I could definitely hear it.

louder 10.12.2016 07:07 AM

Top 10 favorite albums of the year so far, revisited:

1. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
2. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
3. Chance the Rapper - Coloring Book
4. Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade
5. Schoolboy Q - Blank Face LP
6. Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered.
7. David Bowie - Blackstar
8. Maxwell - blackSUMMERS'night
9. KING - We Are KING
10. Solange - A Seat at the Table

H.M: Beyonce - Lemonade, Young Thug - JEFFERY, Kaytranada - 99.9%, BJ the Chicago Kid - In My Mind, Ro James - ELDORADO

Severian 10.12.2016 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
Top 10 favorite albums of the year so far, revisited:

1. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
2. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
3. Chance the Rapper - Coloring Book
4. Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade
5. Schoolboy Q - Blank Face LP
6. Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered.
7. David Bowie - Blackstar
8. Maxwell - blackSUMMERS'night
9. KING - We Are KING
10. Solange - A Seat at the Table

H.M: Beyonce - Lemonade, Young Thug - JEFFERY, Kaytranada - 99.9%, BJ the Chicago Kid - In My Mind, Ro James - ELDORADO


:eek: Holy fucking WOW man! Kanye to No. 2 with a bullet! Must have made one hell of a second impression!!! Psyched as all hell to see this. Warms my heart. In fact, I kinda feel like my heart has been thawed after 8 months of being in the freezer, like a hunk of venison.

Happy to see Kendrick back on there as well. I don't know that I personally view untitled unmastered. as a proper "album" (I used to, and it definitely has enough quality moments to warrant such consideration, especially when weighed against the rest of the year's hip-hop), but now I guess I see it as more of a TPAB companion EP. If only because of how brief it is, and how one of the songs is just kind of a throwaway reprise of an earlier song.

Severian 10.12.2016 09:55 AM

I guess it is gettin' to be that time again. So...
My top 10 albums of the year SO FAR:

1. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo (sittin' pretty at the top since Feb. 11, before the album was even DONE. Easiest #1 in forever)
2. Nicolas Jaar - SIRENS
3. Kaytranada - 99.9%
4. Chance the Rapper - Coloring Book
5. Pantha Du Prince - The Triad
6. Beyoncé - Lemonade
7. DJ Koze Presents: PAMPA Vol. 1
8. Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade
9. PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
10. Christian Fennesz & Jim O'Rourke - It's Hard For Me to Say I'm Sorry

I see some changes to the bottom half coming in the very near future. I'm basically all about the top 4.

Severian 10.12.2016 09:59 AM

I need to listen to Atrocity Exhibition more. I like that one a lot, but haven't had the time to really let it soak in all the way.

I also can't quite decide which I like more between Blank Face LP and The Sun's Torade. At first it was def Rashad, but I slept on Blank Face for a while, and it's really grown on me since then.

My favorite songs of the year are probably:
1. "Real Friends"
2. Beyoncé - "All Night"
3. Chance - "No Problem" or "Angels"

Rob Instigator 10.12.2016 02:24 PM

anyone still saucin'?

noisereductions 10.12.2016 08:57 PM

this is the shit right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_AQFnqMY3E

Dr. Eugene Felikson 10.12.2016 10:04 PM

I didn't care for Life of Pablo. Maybe I'll have to revisit it... idk. I haven't really connected w/ Ye post-808's (which was a masterpiece).

Anyone hear Woptober yet? Gucci's Everybody Looking fucking bangs.

Best hip hop of the year is def Danny Brown's Atrocity Exhibition though.

Severian 10.12.2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions


You heard that on Luke Cage too huh? ;)
Yeah, I definitely took notice when that was playing. Not nuts about the guy's vibe, or that absurdly emotive performance, but it's definitely a damn good song.

louder 10.13.2016 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions

Damn, this beat is FILTHY.

Severian 10.13.2016 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
Damn, this beat is FILTHY.


I know, right?

Tons of good shit on Luke Cage. I'm telling y'all. If they release a Soundtraco CD I'm going to get that shit.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 10.13.2016 10:00 AM

Nobody wants to talk about Atrocity Exhibition? =/

Dude justdropped the video for Pneumonia - http://vevo.ly/OQaj8y

(it's insane)

Did you guys already discuss the album? I'm late to the punch aren't I?

Rob Instigator 10.13.2016 10:18 AM

Never heard Danny Brown. I like the finger cymbals/castanets

I like how he "got a half a pound of artichoke"

Severian 10.13.2016 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Nobody wants to talk about Atrocity Exhibition? =/

Dude justdropped the video for Pneumonia - http://vevo.ly/OQaj8y

(it's insane)

Did you guys already discuss the album? I'm late to the punch aren't I?


I think it's a great album, but it hasn't gone over so well with the rest. I think only Louder has even mentioned it.

Yes, it's very good. Not best of the year good, or remotely close, but definitely top 5 worthy in hip-hop. I was lead to believe it would be a big industrial rap crazy noise grind fest, and was pleased to hear that it's actually a good deal more diverse and textured than that.

We don't talk about albums like we used to here. Streaming and quality issues among vetted artists have really altered the way we converse. Used to be, when a new Ghostface dropped, there were 3-4 pages of comments about it. Now It's like, "Really? Nobody has listened to the new De La Soul album that came out 2 months ago? Fucking why?!"

But I like Atrocity Exhibition a lot. Not sure I like it more than Old or XXX, but it's dope as hell.


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