Aaron Dilloway - All Of Them Spies

i've been bingeing on a lot of prog rock lately so finally it's a huge relief of sorts to be playing this:



which needs no comment. but so much fun!

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@ bytor - how is that aaron dilloway? esp. compared vs. wolf eyes?

It's more atmospheric with solid tones.....drone-ish at times with manipulation. A live performance that's forgettable, yet very enjoyable.

Not the beats driven distortion as the Wolfe Eyes releases I'm familiar with.

Thanks for that! It's definitely growing on me. I was initially a bit put off by just how 80s a lot of the production sounds but I'm starting to hear past that now. And I was just a little concerned that I might be judging them on an album that doesn't really represent them. For some reason I thought they'd be far more extreme. More like Whitehouse. Not sure why.

back from the grave - vol.1. rocking it on my pod today while sanding floors. good summertime stuff and taking some hydros because I slipped in the bathroom last week and broke a rib, I think, because it still hurts.

you "think" you broke a rib? and your "doctor" gave you a "prescription" without an "exam" or "x-rays"?

oh, hillbilly medicine!

don't you georgios get obamacare??

no, I never went to a doctor. the nurse I was doing work for last week said a bruised rib and a cracked/broke rib feels the same pain wise and they'll just wrap it up the same as Im doing. so, im just tuffin it out until it heals. everybody around me seems to think it's no big deal but, it hurts when I take deep breaths or some strenuous task. hoping it will heal over time.

Im buying the hydros and percs from a friend. need them for work.

I haven't signed up for Obamacare yet. or I did but, never got a email back.:rolleyes: I know, I know. im a fool. it's like signing up for food stamps now.

do you think I need to see a doctor?

well yeah. hell. and stop getting medicine from a drug dealer. fucks sakes. there's a felony anyone could use to fuck you over.

and broken rib could potentially puncture your lung. what if you get hit on the same spot again?

mira: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20029574

get your shit together, man! you have a daughter to look after. you're not 15 anymore.

mmm yr right. maybe tomorrow see somebody but I work all time. me and my daughters' shit is pretty straight. I don't have any custody but I get to see her every week and that's better than nothing or having regrets. thanks for being concern but we're a beautiful team. me and that little squirt head.

so, a punctured lung is what im worried about. in my head I imagine the worse. blood and all. think I might just ride it out or go to a doctor. sleep on it. maybe the out come will be go to a doctor or bust.

well you should worry also about your ex wanting to fuck you out of visitation by ratting out your pill purchase should she find out/have an interest in keeping you away. i know it all sounds like bullshit but this kind of shit happens all the time because of carelessness like that. she could say to the family judge "my baby is in danger of eating an illegal pill by accident" (that happens too, btw).

i live in a hillbilly area so i see shit like that on a regular basis. everyone around here has done jail time at some point. and i can see why. "it should be okay..." and then, bam.

okay rant over, best wishes.

no no no my friend!!! my baby mama is was more crazier than I am. shit together? more like trying to arrange and sweetening diarrhea with her. if anything, I have the upper hand in this and have way more shit on her. then you might ask a ton of other questions complete with tons of other answers that'll do no good. it's a mess. besides, me and her are pretty tight and on good terms.

anyway, thanks.

Whoah.

Listen man, if you've got a broken rib you need to see a doctor, get an X-ray, and have everything evaluated by professional, including the amount of pain medication you're taking and the duration of your dose.

Ribs are tricky. They're close to your lungs, and an X-ray is necessary because a lot of things could go wrong when sharp bones crack around vital organs. Also, if you damaged any cartilage, that's important to note as well. Cartilage can be extremely painful when it tears, and it takes forever to heal. The pain can feel like a broken rib. And two broken ribs can feel like one broken rib. So seriously, get your ass into an ER.

Also- YOU SHOULD NOT BE OPERATING A SANDER WITH A FRESHLY BROKEN RIB/RIBS/CARTILAGE, PERIOD!!!

And for the love of God, you should NEVER take pain medication at your own discretion to relieve pain. This should go without saying. Opiate painkillers are usually pretty damn cheap, so if you go to the doctor and get a legit script, you'll probably pay less per pill than you are now.

Basically everything about what you're doing is totally wrong, and I'm not saying that to be a dick. I've had a number of broken bones, accidents, pain issues etc. I'm not trying to shame you, but I imagine you'd rather not be risking your health, committing felonies and hurting like hell.

Seriously, go see GP or go to an ER if you don't have one. Get an X-ray, take the narcotics THEY GIVE YOU and take time off if they tell you to.

100% agree oneverything you said, but if he's paying out of pocket i'd advise against the ER. it's the most expensive of all options.

go to a free/cheap clinic or public hospital-- clinics can refer you to a hospital and hospitals have x-rays. just show up as a walk-in and wait for a cancellation to open up a spot. yes you stand in line for a long time but you get seen. yes, time is money but i don't think he makes enough that paying 10 times will be worth it.

that is unless he gets coverage right away (doubtful, but you never know). he should go see a health insurance navigator ASAP, regardless.

I know I know, man I've been worried about this? im not in extreme pain or anything, and the only reason im still posting and awake is because tomorrow is my last day until Monday. everybody around me, co-workers and family doesn't seem concern so I took it at face value. slipping and falling with all my weight on the bathtube edge is a big deal. think I've done more damage by working this whole time.

ok ok. doctor it is tomorrow!!!:confused: I mentioned it today to somebody and they said i'll be fine. for now, I need to eat and get sleep.

also: I don't really like taking pain pills. they're kinda crappy. though they do relieve a little.

Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean to wax pedantic.

... But yeah, they are certainly creepy.

For my money, there's truly nothing like, Whitehouse. However, Coil has a few releases that have moments of harshness:

Coil w/ New Blockaders (1984)

How To Destroy Angels

constant shallowness leads to evil too, that one's totally unbridled fury.

am I alone in thinking that coil were at their peak subsequent to the LSD era? perhaps it's because the sound as presented on their purported classics (horse rotorvator, scatology, stolen & contaminated/LSD etc) has been so heavily co-opted by people like trent reznor as to be stripped of its esotericism, but I think it's more so that they just totally realised and nailed the shit out of their foundational vision on the late 90s/early 2ks stuff. once they'd embarked on all the side projects (elph, time machines, black light district which are all stunning) they seemed to return with such an incredibly focused vision, they tapped into something so very unique all culminating beautifully in the ape of naples which really does function as the quintessential coil LP. I don't know how to describe it but christopherson's fascination with nico becomes pretty readily evident when listening to this stuff, there's an air of really intense mysticism to these releases which on the earlier stuff came across as mere 'anger', far more identifiably industrial which to me became a byword for gothic angst post-TG.

also queens of the circulating library is the greatest melody ever written.

Melvins - Night Goat

I forgot about, 'Constant Shallowness Leads To Evil.' I don't own a proper copy of this and haven't listened to my cassette copy in a while.

I believe most original diehards like the pre-LSD Coil the most. Personally, I've always felt the LSD-post in a lot of ways was music to accompany videos or live performances w/ videos.

I so wish they would have recorded more as, Sickness Of Snakes (Boyd Rice).

If you ever run across them, one can't go wrong adding, 'Unnatural History I or II to their music collections!

update and not to cause any reaction about this in the wrong thread: going to the doc/ER tomorrow to find out about the ribs and to fill out a indigent form.

wrong thread i know but, to those that were concern....... im going.

Was listening to Funhouse... and wondering what Iggy Pop solo albums are really worth listening to? Skull Ring is a massive blemish on Iggy's taste, I know that. (Fucking Green Day?!). Kill City is amazing I hear, but that is joint with Williamson. Lust For Life, of course should be the classic. The Idiot? American Caesar? Zombie Birdhouse? New Values?

Hope you´re getting better soon!

I haven´t heard all the Iggy´s solos, but I think none of them are as great as Stooges seventies albums. It´s long time I have listened Idiot, didn´t like it then, I think I have to listen it again. My favourites are Lust for life, American Caesar and Naughty Little Doggie (I think this one is little underrated).

Yes, American Caesar has peaked my interest, so fancy you should say that. I'll check 'em out.

Just finished listening to the new LOOP EP!

Man or Astro-man? - The Miracle of Genuine Pyrex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTADVMlYf9U

Man or Astro-man? - Specific Gravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVOkObcnuo

Nirvana - Paper Cuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDGO8RjJEg

The Idiot is underrated, it was a strong influence on Joy Division (apparently Ian Curtis even listened to it shortly before committing suicide... !!!).

In Alfredo Suatoni´s book "from the centre of the city" is said he listened Iggy & the Stooges Metallic K.O. -album and watched Stroszek-film from the TV before his suicide. But maybe he listened both?

Aw, what the shit? You serious?

Why didn't I ever click on that "Loop Reform" thread?

With Fugazi would do something like this... someday.

The Idiot was the first Iggy solo release that I ever heard, and I think it's been unfairly swept under the rug of "cool rock" history. That album, and Lust for Life, were hugely influential in a totally different way than the Stooges albums were. But they don't get the same lovin' that is given to albums like Bowie's Low, or Lou's Transformer. Total classics though. And yeah/ the influence on Joy Division is pretty clear.

Yes, Iggy & Bowie were huge idols to Curtis and others. Of course also Velvet. Curtis was really excited when Bowie walked past him in the RCA-office (JD made an album before Unknown Pleasures to RCA that is never officially released).

Are you talking a about the 12-minute An Ideal For Living EP? If so, not really an album... But yeah, technically it was their first release. It was issued on 12" vinyl format in the U.S. for Record Store Day 2015.

(Original):



(RSD 12" 2015):

No. Ideal for living was their own release. They recorded 11 songs. They made new versions almost all the songs that they recorded in RCA, All of This for you is the only one that never recorded again. There are lots of bootleg versions of that album, mostly it is named Warsaw. I got this version:
http://www.discogs.com/Joy-Division-...release/554689

There are also songs from Peel Sessions and one from their first demo.

I have the WaRSAW recordings as part of a Substance CD

i have it as a pirate download from my napster days

i should probably destroy the evidence after this confession

No, they´re not the same what I have talked about. In Substance vinyl there is side one of "Ideal for Living" (Warsaw & Leaders of Men). In cd-version which I have is also side two (No love lost & Failures). They recorded those four again in those RCA sessions in 1978 and also they recorded 7 more songs (there is also first versions of Shadowplay & Transmission, latter is really interesting, much slower than the later single version). These are never officially released, I think JD guys don´t like these sessions at all. They are much more punk, very raw. Not of course essential JD-stuff, but I like them also. Also they have made 5 songs demo while they were under name Warsaw. I have those too, they are quite horrible, only At the later date & the Kill are ok songs (The Kill of this demo is totally different song than the one in Still).

Here are All Of this for you from RCA-sessions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60QApbDG4PE

I think this version is better than later single-version (Curtis vocals are much more aggressive & greater)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipBURvpouYY

There is wrong information in that youtube-piece, they were already Joy Division when making those RCA-sessions.

ahhh! thanks for the clarification!

joussimo is like the wikipedia of music

im like-- wtf! how does he know this!