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louder 06.10.2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
^what's that?

New Kodak Black tape, drops tomorrow (I think).

Honestly the cover art had me interested. Kid is pretty dope, he kinda sounds like a Carter 1-era Wayne and Gucci Mane hybrid.

Severian 06.10.2016 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
New Kodak Black tape, drops tomorrow (I think).

Honestly the cover art had me interested. Kid is pretty dope, he kinda sounds like a Carter 1-era Wayne and Gucci Mane hybrid.


When the hell is Birds in the Trap gon' drop? That's what I wanna know.

Also: have you by any chance revisited Pablo since agreeing to do so?


If not (or if so, whatever) make sure you listen to that shit in these two essential environments:
1. In the car with a decent system and the audio settings tweaked to bring out the bass but with the mid and treble still quite high.
2. On headphones ... I didn't listen to the "final" mix on headphones until fairly recently, and there's a whole lot of shit going on that's easy to miss if you listen any other way. For instance, I didn't realize until, like, the day before yesterday, that "Famous" contains a recurring sample of Nina Simone's "I've loved you better than you're own kin did... I just wanted you to know" playing on loop throughout pretty much the entire song. It's extremely soft and subtle and actually damn near impossible to notice unless you're paying attention, but it really has a powerful overall effect. Throughout the bam-bam section, Nina's singing away in a ghost whisper loop at the very bottom of the track, and it's almost revelatory when you notice it. It's like it puts a sheen on the song, and keeps the whole thing grounded despite its fragmented parts.

I don't think this effect was in the early versions. But it's there, mark my words. And it's glorious.

Severian 06.10.2016 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Merking means kill somebody. Indeed just put on The Element of Surprise again, its essentially one of most violent records in rap


Wow, that's saying something. You got it man. I'll put it on first chance I get. I've been meaning to find some rap treasures to fall in love with again. But I feel no desire to play any Wu (for SOME reason).

I shall listen and get back to you. I expect to be absolutely disgusted.

noisereductions 06.10.2016 11:03 PM

I never heard that Nina Simone sample in my car or in my game room. Damn. I only listen on headphones when I'm at the supermarket, and that's usually jazz haha.

louder 06.11.2016 01:06 AM

Revisiting Pablo right now, got the latest version.

@ Sev

Severian 06.11.2016 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I never heard that Nina Simone sample in my car or in my game room. Damn. I only listen on headphones when I'm at the supermarket, and that's usually jazz haha.


When I first heard it I thought someone was singing the song, like, right next to me in a really low voice... I was blasting "Famous" on my headphones and I thought someone was fucking with me for a second. Then I stopped what I was doing and really listened, and I was kind of blown away. That song has always just really appealed to me, and I think that loop may have been kind of affecting me on a subliminal level. Once I actually heard it, I just thought it was beautiful.

TLOP is not really the sloppy mess Kanye wants it to be. It's a deceptively intricate album.

louder 06.11.2016 01:27 AM

The production on Famous is absolutely beautiful and so next level.

louder 06.11.2016 01:30 AM

Feedback is still crazy.

"Awesome, Steve Jobs mixed with Steve Austin"

His screaming at the end hahahahaha.

louder 06.11.2016 02:30 AM

This album still doesn't do much for me, sorry. Some great moments here and there, but overall.. no. The mixing didn't make much difference. At least I tried.

louder 06.11.2016 04:17 AM

Finally listening to the Joey Purp mixtape.. featuring Chance and other people from his camp.

 

louder 06.11.2016 04:36 AM

Great project. "Girls @" with Chance is actually the weakest song.

pepper_green 06.11.2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
Feedback is still crazy.

"Awesome, Steve Jobs mixed with Steve Austin"

His screaming at the end hahahahaha.


my daughter loves to make feedback on her karaoke machine. she's gets a thrill out of holding the mic to the speaker. it's sick. we're all dysfunctional non custoday base heads but there's love around.

louder 06.11.2016 10:14 AM

Jesus Christ, that Kodak Black tape is some hot shit.

Get it here: http://www.livemixtapes.com/download...l-big-pac.html

Severian 06.11.2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
This album still doesn't do much for me, sorry. Some great moments here and there, but overall.. no. The mixing didn't make much difference. At least I tried.


Well, thanks for trying. Glad you at least appreciate some parts of it that you didn't before.

Still my hands down album of the year though.

louder 06.11.2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Well, thanks for trying. Glad you at least appreciate some parts of it that you didn't before.

Still my hands down album of the year though.

True. Famous finally hit me and I can agree with y'all that it's an amazing song (especially due to the production). Probably the best on the album.

That's understandable. I get why other people love it so much, it's just my personal opinion.

pepper_green 06.11.2016 10:21 AM

I feel like you guys just ganged up and bum rushed my post.

I woke up this morning wanted to hear TLOP but said NAW!!! Ill pass.

thinking about some Outkast or Kendrick untitled or paul's boutique.

Severian 06.11.2016 10:03 PM

Speaking of OutKast, I listened to Aquemini today, and I remembered louder saying that Bey's "All Night" sampled "SpottieOttieDopaliscious."

I'm, like 100% certain that the two horn parts are not the same. Straight up. Partly because of the major key changes in the "All Night" that just a aren't there in the reggae-derived horn loop in "Spottie..." (See the chorus at 2:30-2:40, and you'll hear notes and phrasing that aren't in "Spottie" at all).

So I just wanted to throw that out there. I DO know that people from both Bey and OutKast camps noticed the similarities between the horn parts, and that OutKast was given a post-release songwriting credit that appears on all pressings of the album except for the first.

But... It's not a direct sample of the song. It has a very similar sound, but the key is different, and the recording of the horns is very obviously of a higher quality on "All Night."

Anyway, not trying to be a dick, but that's my verdict and I stand by it after listening to the songs back to back a few times. I thought it sounded odd that the horns came from Spottie, but I held my tongue cause y'all tend to know more about this shit than I do.

Both excellent songs, though.

Severian 06.11.2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
True. Famous finally hit me and I can agree with y'all that it's an amazing song (especially due to the production). Probably the best on the album.

That's understandable. I get why other people love it so much, it's just my personal opinion.


Yeah "Famous" has pretty much been my pick since the streaming event. It made my jaw drop. But "Fade" has really, really, really grown on me. It's like the most powerful 3 minutes of music I've ever heard. It sounds fucking electromagnetic. Like the pressure and building tension are just going to shut the world off. It kicks fucking ass.

louder 06.12.2016 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Speaking of OutKast, I listened to Aquemini today, and I remembered louder saying that Bey's "All Night" sampled "SpottieOttieDopaliscious."

I'm, like 100% certain that the two horn parts are not the same. Straight up. Partly because of the major key changes in the "All Night" that just a aren't there in the reggae-derived horn loop in "Spottie..." (See the chorus at 2:30-2:40, and you'll hear notes and phrasing that aren't in "Spottie" at all).

So I just wanted to throw that out there. I DO know that people from both Bey and OutKast camps noticed the similarities between the horn parts, and that OutKast was given a post-release songwriting credit that appears on all pressings of the album except for the first.

But... It's not a direct sample of the song. It has a very similar sound, but the key is different, and the recording of the horns is very obviously of a higher quality on "All Night."

Anyway, not trying to be a dick, but that's my verdict and I stand by it after listening to the songs back to back a few times. I thought it sounded odd that the horns came from Spottie, but I held my tongue cause y'all tend to know more about this shit than I do.

Both excellent songs, though.

Yeah I initially assumed they were sampled, but they weren't, they just happened to be like, really similar. :)

Severian 06.12.2016 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
Yeah I initially assumed they were sampled, but they weren't, they just happened to be like, really similar. :)


Sorry, I didn't mean to go off like I was calling you out or something. I assumed you were right. I just happened to listen to the song and went "wait a tick!"

Still, they're similar enough for Bey to make sure OutKast had a writing credit, to avoid any legal bumfuckery. That was pretty cool on her part. Not that OutKast would have made a big thing out of it... It was just courteous.

BTW "All Night" is still one of my favorite songs of the year, and def. my fav on Lemonade. Just sayin' :)


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