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cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.22.2008 03:26 PM

Rumor has it 1000+ dead in Galveston area
 
which would completely explain the would explain the no-fly zone over bolivar and the stiff-arming of media in the area immediately after the storm.
I hear they are putting them in 18 wheeler freezers because it's so many.
A friend talked to several people that are there working with the emergency response team, and they've all said there were tons more fatalities than what is being reported.
He was told, "We're pulling bodies out by the truckloads."
I was watching the news and it was weird to see Wayne Dolcefino so pissed about the inability to report the damage in Bolivar immediately after the storm.
He got in the governors face and wasn't about to back down.
He was with local officials, who offered to escort him around bolivar, but was stopped by national guard.
He even offered to cover the area and have the other stations use the same feed, but was denied access.
All that Governor Perry could say was that he did not control the air space and that ground control was local and not his issue.

floatingslowly 09.22.2008 03:37 PM

ok. here's where I get to sound calloused (again):

when you are told "if you don't evacuate, you ARE going to DIE" and then you die because you didn't evacuate, well...who's fault is it?

I saw too many people say they weren't leaving because "we're island people. we survive". they were estimating that there were 30,000 left in Galveston after the evac. considering the damage, it's not that surprising.

even if they ignored the evac orders, they should have listened to Tina.

"we never do anything nice and easy. we always do it nice and rough."

Cantankerous 09.22.2008 03:37 PM

lol.

stupid fucks.

SYRFox 09.22.2008 03:38 PM

Cool, 1000+ retirement pensions less :)

greedrex 09.22.2008 03:41 PM

horrible
avoidable
stubborn cunts
you're dead now

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.22.2008 03:44 PM

Well, you also have to think about this...

The storm was a Category 2 storm based on wind speed, but it was a Category 4 based on water surge.

On the news, they were saying that the storm was a Category 2
But what they failed to report, until Friday, was that it was a Category 4 in size
It was the confusing classification that lead people to believe that they were riding out a Category 2, which they were, in part...

You also have to think about the personal tie these people had with their homes
It was all they had

And what about the children who were, in a way, forced to ride the storm out because their parents did not want to evacuate?
Are the kids "stupid fucks"?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.22.2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
horrible
avoidable
stubborn cunts
you're dead now


You're sick, dude.

greedrex 09.22.2008 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
Well, you also have to think about this...

What you have to take into consideration is that the storm was a Category 2 storm based on wind speed, but it was a Category 4 based on water surge.

On the news, they were saying that the storm was a Category 2
But what they failed to report, until Friday, was that it was a Category 4 in size
It was the confusing classification that lead people to believe that they were riding out a Category 2, which they were, in part...

You also have to think about the personal tie these people had with their homes
It was all they had

And what about the children who were, in a way, forced to ride the storm out because their parents did not want to evacuate?
Are the kids "stupid fucks"?


true.
better safe than sorry though.
i actually agree with Cantank's extreme point of view on this.
avoid dangerous coasts and places that are known to be risky or u're building yr life on a pile of ashes / castle of sand already:(

Cantankerous 09.22.2008 03:47 PM

i've said it before and i will say it until you people learn.

if you don't want to die, get the fuck out. if your white-vinyl-sided chunk of shit shack of a house is more important to you than your life, your priorities are fucked up. beyond. all. reason.

floatingslowly 09.22.2008 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
Are the kids "stupid fucks"?

actually, that quote about "we're island people. we survive" was from a 5 year old!

it's not that it isn't tragic, but natural selection's like that.

and...the entire time, "they" kept saying "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die" "you will die".

Cantankerous 09.22.2008 03:50 PM

^ what's tragic is how stupid some people are.

the darwin awards should come out with a whole other volume dedicated only to stupid people who refuse to leave in the event of a hurricane or other life threatening weather.

greedrex 09.22.2008 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
You're sick, dude.

no, but it's true it's all horrible but it's not like local people didn't know something shitty was on the verge of happening
even IF the level of risk wasn't easy to evaluate, you gotta GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
This hurrican business also struck the Northern part of France , not too far from where i live.
Even if yr house is all you've got, yr life is more important than yr house.
That's why i say it's avoidable (as in death was avoidable ) and stubbornness kills.

pbradley 09.22.2008 03:51 PM

People dying en masse still kind of really sucks regardless.

greedrex 09.22.2008 03:52 PM

^^^of course it does

Cantankerous 09.22.2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
People dying en masse still kind of really sucks regardless.

it's their fault. you wanna die, be my guest. there are too many people in the world.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.22.2008 03:53 PM

like you said earlier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
:eek:

i can't believe you people


Cantankerous 09.22.2008 03:55 PM

even if someone i knew personally had died. it would be sad etc but i would still be like "sorry, it's your own dumbass fault"

floatingslowly 09.22.2008 04:03 PM

crypto, I haven't yet heard from you what "they" could have done beyond MANDATORY evac's to save these people.

vocab words for islanders to learn:

MANDATORY
EVACUATION
YOU
WILL
DIE


I recall similar grief (not from you) over the old man who refused to leave his cabin on Mt. St. Helens after being told that it would errupt soon. I think I shrugged.

nicfit 09.22.2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
You're sick, dude.

says the guy who started threads like this.

I'm not commenting on the actual subject of the thread coz I have not enough info.

Rob Instigator 09.22.2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
^ what's tragic is how stupid some people are.

the darwin awards should come out with a whole other volume dedicated only to stupid people who refuse to leave in the event of a hurricane or other life threatening weather.


you have no clue how much it COSTS to take a working class family of four out of the only home you own and keep them somewhere else for WEEKS afte a hurricane.

shut yr mouth.


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