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playeru 03.10.2010 05:56 AM

Early Sonic Youth
 
To my shame I am not familiar with the first 3 SY albums: Sonic Youth, Confusion Is Sex and Bad Moon Rising. The next one, EVOL, is possibly my favourite. The reviews for the early works are not great, should I try them or maybe I should spare a dissapointment? I'm not really into no wave.

SonicBebs 03.10.2010 05:58 AM

i've not heard them either, to my shame.
I think we should both go and get all 3 and stop putting it off

chrome noise tape 03.10.2010 06:27 AM

 


it's never a dissapointment. it's always a discovery.

SYRFox 03.10.2010 07:38 AM

Bad Moon Rising is my favorite SY release. Confusion is Sex is near too. I don't know where you've read bad reviews? Most reviews are read seem to judge these records as amazing

playeru 03.10.2010 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
Bad Moon Rising is my favorite SY release. Confusion is Sex is near too. I don't know where you've read bad reviews? Most reviews are read seem to judge these records as amazing


Here's one from Allmusic.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...0:pvev97yakr5t

stu666 03.10.2010 08:10 AM

listen for free here:

http://www.last.fm/music/Sonic+Youth/Sonic+Youth

http://www.last.fm/music/Sonic+Youth/Confusion+Is+Sex

http://www.last.fm/music/Sonic+Youth/Bad+Moon+Rising

The Earl Of Slander 03.10.2010 12:43 PM

Exactly where shifts around, but I'd always place Confusion in my top 5 SY records. You need it. Now.

Antagon 03.10.2010 01:32 PM

Confusion is Sex blew my mind when I heard it for the first time. I don't care for the reviews. Imho Sonic Youth, Confusion is Sex, Bad Moon Rising and EVOL are their best albums

ann ashtray 03.10.2010 04:54 PM

Those first three albums are all amazing, each in their own unique way.

1) Sonic Youth - If only because it is one record that doesn't fit into a certain series of records. Basically, they've never done anything else that sounds quite like it. An early insight into an early Youth. Richard E's polyrhythmic percussive attack, strange guitars played in standard tuning. It wouldn't happen (much) again. Young and searchin', + it shows. Thirsty for blood they'd later find on Confusion is Sex....

2) Confusion is Sex - BRUTAL. The Youth shake hands with hardcore, and run amuck. Violent, wild, sexy. Rusted street lamp scrawl. Trash in the streets. Discarded love notes. Black Flag meet noise and the youth sense the future...chaos.

3) Bad Moon Rising - SY at their darkest. Charles Manson and Death Valley. Endless desert highway drone. No AC. H O T as F U C K. Halloween and being fed up with boring/Satanic imagery so popular amongst heavy metal youth circa '85. Brave Men Run (from Lydia Lunch)...


I really recommend checkin' out all three. That's just me, though.

Mortte Jousimo 03.11.2010 08:30 AM

I think it might be possible, that someone who likes for example "EVOL" and "Sister" donīt like three first lp`s (or first 4, if you count "Sonic Death"). Thatīs because EVOL is first real melodic Sonic Youth lp. Of course "Bad Moon Rising" has already melodies, but not so fully than Evol. Playeru and Sonicbebs, I Think you should start with "Bad Moon" and if you like that, then buy the first lp. Confusion is the most aggressive and chaotic Sonic Youth lp (or maybe Sonic Death). If you like Syr-records and "In a Fishtank", then you like the first oneīs too! These first lpīs are very important to me, but so are all the sonic albums! : )

tesla69 03.11.2010 09:31 AM

Bad Moon Rising is the ARCHETYPE of SY, like saying you're a Stones fan but never heard Exile on Main Street

Toilet & Bowels 03.11.2010 10:22 AM

everything SY put out in the 80s is essential, especially if EVOL is your favourite record

Toilet & Bowels 03.11.2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by playeru


reading that i wonder if that guy spent for than 30 seconds listening to the record

SONIC GAIL 03.12.2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Those first three albums are all amazing, each in their own unique way.

1) Sonic Youth - If only because it is one record that doesn't fit into a certain series of records. Basically, they've never done anything else that sounds quite like it. An early insight into an early Youth. Richard E's polyrhythmic percussive attack, strange guitars played in standard tuning. It wouldn't happen (much) again. Young and searchin', + it shows. Thirsty for blood they'd later find on Confusion is Sex....

2) Confusion is Sex - BRUTAL. The Youth shake hands with hardcore, and run amuck. Violent, wild, sexy. Rusted street lamp scrawl. Trash in the streets. Discarded love notes. Black Flag meet noise and the youth sense the future...chaos.

3) Bad Moon Rising - SY at their darkest. Charles Manson and Death Valley. Endless desert highway drone. No AC. H O T as F U C K. Halloween and being fed up with boring/Satanic imagery so popular amongst heavy metal youth circa '85. Brave Men Run (from Lydia Lunch)...


I really recommend checkin' out all three. That's just me, though.



Very nice description...I would reccomend all 3. Even if you don't quite like them at first, they have a way of one day dragging you in and you can't get enough.

SYHamilton 03.12.2010 11:26 AM

I've never heard their self-titled debut, but I do like Confusion. I love EVOL and Bad Moon Rising is sort of hit and miss. Confusion has the no-wave influence to it and a lot of the songs like Protect Me You have a great haunting quality to them.
I heard on a radio show that Confusion was recorded for $2,000 and they had a few problems. The reel-to-reel machine chewed up some of the tape, so they had to smooth it out and patch it up. Then, after that, somebody spilled a can of Coke all over the master copy. There was no money to re-record the album, so they just cleaned it up as well as they could.

Derek 03.12.2010 11:28 AM

Fuck reviews.

Kannibal 03.12.2010 12:27 PM

mmm... Bad Moon Rising...

RanaldoNecro 03.12.2010 05:22 PM

Sy is the last album I bought by them. Make sure you buy the remaster edition with x tracks.

If i was left on a vacant island with one CD from their early period it would be the ST release. Assuming I had hydro and a CD player

The Earl Of Slander 03.12.2010 05:48 PM

I'm listening to the self titled now, for the first time in a while, and damn is it great. One of those albums that always surprises me by again surpassing my memories of its awesomeness. Also, The Good and the Bad rocks so hard that it makes me wish Thurston would play bass on a few more tracks, just out of interest...

greedrex 03.13.2010 04:28 AM

- Sonic Death : it's an experience in itself, very abrasive and a faithful document of their very early -live-days. Very raw.
- Sonic Youth EP: interesting in that in a way it sounds nothing like Confusion for instance. Their cleanest record (with Murray, maybe). But classics on there. Get it on wax.
- Confusion : eerie and mysterious, abrasive at times too, lots of stuff with harmonics and screwdrivers; like a manifesto of things to come.
- BMR: their most abstract record, loud and scary. You can't pretend you're a SY fan before you have at least heard this one once. It's a milestone.Better get this one on wax too if you can.


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