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Moshe 06.26.2009 08:46 PM

Butch Vig talks Dirty
 
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-butch-vig/

atsonicpark 06.26.2009 08:50 PM

Talks dirty? I bet he likes to rub his bald head on a big nasty asshole.

Rob Instigator 06.27.2009 12:04 AM

thanks!

amerikangod 06.27.2009 12:06 AM

This thread title was misleading in regards to the number of erections I was expecting to get.

amerikangod 06.27.2009 12:07 AM

brb, gonna go watch 'Naked Lunch' and then stop off at Stoner's Pot Emporium to right things.

ZEROpumpkins 06.27.2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Talks dirty? I bet he likes to rub his bald head on a big nasty asshole.

lol

FreshChops 06.27.2009 01:04 AM

Butch, butch, butch.....

"Dirty" was one of the most compressed albums I've ever heard..... but at the same time, most powerful and layered. Dirty has such a surreal and magical feel to it. I think only he could have put that touch on it. Sure, the songs are epic, but Butch did his thing on that one!

I always perk up when Butch has something to say!

pokkeherrie 06.27.2009 08:54 AM

That forum must be a walhalla for gear nerds:

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Siket
The exact set-up was as follows: Neve 8040/1081's, AKGD12 on bassdrumm, SM57 on snare, C12A's on toms, C24 on OH's, U47's and 77DX's on gtrs, RE20 on bass. Everyone was in Sear's small Studio A. There were gobo's. Steve the drummer was the only one wearing phones. The tapemachine was an Ampex MM1200/16track with 499 at 15ips NNR. Kim's vocal was an M49 thru some kind of early Manley tube-pre.


barnaclelapse 06.27.2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by amerikangod
brb, gonna go watch 'Naked Lunch' and then stop off at Stoner's Pot Emporium to right things.


So...pretty much what you do every single day, right?

Dead-Air 06.27.2009 11:07 AM

The board owner there put EJT&NS on Butch's discography instead of Dirty.

You'd think he'd get called on that pretty quick. Which thread talks specifically about Dirty? There's quite a few and I'm not interested beyond that, so I don't want to wade through them all.

pokkeherrie 06.27.2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
The board owner there put EJT&NS on Butch's discography instead of Dirty.

Both Dirty and EJST&NS were produced by him.

greedrex 06.27.2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Shadow
 

Hi Butch,

thanks for doing this and my sincerest compliments on your impressive body of work.

I would like to ask you about your production of Sonic Youth's 'Dirty', the now classic 1992 album that gained them a lot of new fans, including me.

I can imagine the band (and specifically Lee Ranaldo and Thurston Moore) having some very strong ideas about music production, and I wondered how you were able to find the middle ground between their experimental aesthetic and your result-oriented work methods that led to the full-bodied sound of 'Dirty'.


I recorded Dirty at the Magic Shop in NYC, it has a great old broadcast Neve console.
I must admit, i was a bit intimidated when I first went to meet the band in NYC. I had seen them live before and really admired their approach to music, and for some reason I thought they were going to be all snobby and arty...but in fact they completely disarmed me with their humour and wit. I went straight to Thurston and Kim's appartment on the lower east side, and when I walked in the door, Thurston yelled "we need to make the album sound like THIS"...and played a 7" single I had recorded by a band from the Twin Cities, Mecht Mensch! It sounded like crap!!!
I was completely blown that he had such an obscure single, as well as almost every other obscure band I had ever produced!

When we started recording, my goal was to capture the sound of Sonic Youth with a bit more 3D, full spectrum glory, yet still retain the quality of what makes them unique. We tracked all the songs live, then went back and overdubbed a lot of the guitar parts, so i could spend more time with them on the sound and performance.
It's probably the most "produced" album they ever made, but still sounds like the Sonics.
I LOVE some of the songs: Sugarkane, 100%, Youth Against Fascism.
And Teresa's Soundworld...I remember he night we recorded that song, the hair on the back of my neck went up in the middle of the take, it sounded so greatl...and I remember thinking man oh man do I have the coolest job in the world!

Dead-Air 06.27.2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
Both Dirty and EJST&NS were produced by him.


Oh shit, you're totally right. I don't know why I forgot that. Though the band was also credited and I think took a lot more control from him than they did on Dirty. But they were credited on that too.

SonicBebs 06.27.2009 03:17 PM

what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?

Dead-Air 06.27.2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicBebs
what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?


A whole lotta Killdozer records which is why Nirvana wanted him. Ironically, after Nevermind they couldn't afford to use him anymore...

Seandi 06.27.2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicBebs
what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?

Tar Babies and almost anyone else from Madison, WI that didn't suck too badly at that time.

automatic bzooty 06.27.2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
That forum must be a walhalla for gear nerds:

Hahaha, truth.

The only bits of that I understood are "gtrs," "bass," "Kim's vocal," 'n' "Steve." Also, that they may be reffering to Sear Sound... maybe.


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