Hardcore revival? Since when? I just found out...
 

So the other day, it was new year's eve, i showed up at a concert that featured a bunch of hardcore bands-- it felt like a time machine, since just a couple of weeks earlier i had watched "american hardcore", and now there i was, in a small basement of a house where band after band played-- it was really fucking good, had a great time, etc, but i was wondering about the archaeology of it all... when did this begin again, & all? anyone knows?

FAR more interesting is the revival in old-school happy hardcore. More Bonkers! Yeah!

I divide my time between here and the discussion board on http://www.happyhardcore.com/

Nice to see I'm not the only one keeping it 'aaaardcore. Don't get me whistles out as much as I should these days though.

???

i know nothing about fruity dance music...

im talking about punk, hardcore punk-- a la bad brains, minor threat, black flag, circle jerks, etc.

these people were preaching straight edge and doing circle jerk covers... a most curious choice.

Yeah, but that's shit. Happy Hardcore is where it's at. I know you're a little old and probably think you're past it, but you're not. IF you listen to Happy Hardcore.

seriously, we're trying to talk about something else here.

Homoerotic? And you're talking about American hardcore? Which is entirely made up of ugly men playing guitars in an ugly way whilst topless? And you think Happy Hardcore's homoerotic?

oh the pain...

I hereby and henceforth give theoretical rep to every post Glice makes and ACTUAL rep whenever I'm allowed.

I know here, and all around this country has been pretty hardcore crazy the last 4 years inparticular. Before that it was more underground, a small clique, but now everyone seems to be sprouting off that they love hardcore music - even mainstream kids.

probably something to do with being able to by minor threat tshirts at places like supre norma j

A lot of people are stuck in one era or another.

I know people that talk like they were born in the 1940s, use a shitload of pomaid, love old cars, gretsch guitars and double basses. (greaser chicks can be really hot though, so I don't know if I can blame them.)

Like this guy: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=669 9621


Hardcore is pretty damn popular with the kids 'round here though. Ian Mackaye and Henry Rollins are gods to some of the yunguns in western pa.

Converting Minor Threat fans into Rites of Spring/Happy Go Licky/Fugazi fans is a long and arduous process.

how could you like minor threat and not fugazi go figure

That's because you live on Mars.Hardcore revival?Are you kidding?

I agree. But hardcore music is still popular at the moment whether they're the essence of it or not.

it's true porks, believe it or not. i was equally surprised. i heard "punk bands" would be playing, and when i showed, it was dc, circa 1982.

as a matter of fact, some bands were quite fucking good, and we bought records.





listen: http://www.myspace.com/blackss

they had a really kickass drummer! after the record i think live was better.

other bands present...

http://www.myspace.com/iobject <-- these people actually just made a record w/ alternative tentacles

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=611 6386

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=608 20198

were there were a lot of bands actually, here a poster:



however, i am still mistified by the time-machine effect of that evening

it's not like the swing fad of the 90's-- this people believe in this as a movement-- straight edge and veganism, or something.

anyway, peculiar, huh?


the bands i saw were DEFINITELY NOT that shit..

Alot of it is actually very 1D standard hardcore. Here anyways. But yes, there is alot of bands that tune down their guitars and growl into the mic pretending they're screaming, all dressed up with hours spent on their hair, too.

ah, where is everyneurotic when we need him

Yesterday I came up with "humorcore", which sums up any band that considers themself "(randomwordhere)core".

And what would you need him for?

does that really require an explanation, or is it a rhethorical question?

Well obviously if he is not here, then we need some sort of answer. Don't we?

do we? or should we reply to every queston with another one? :p

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okay okay. a couple of years ago he put together one motherfuckingly good "classic" hardcore compilation he *cough* shared with some of us. i also know he used to be a straight edger-- hopefuly no more, ha ha, but still, he used to be, with the painted X on his hand & all-- like that bunch of people this past weekend-- and to top it all, the guy knows music like few people do in this board-- maybe only the clone & some other ancients surpass him-- so with all that, i figured he'd have some interesting things to say on this subject. though he's in mexico, which is another cultural galaxy, but still, maybe he's the next byron coley, ha ha, minus the beard i hope.

Ahhh, ok.

Yeah, Mr Neurotic has an incredibly broad taste. He's heavily into his metal and hardcore, but also into loads of other shizzle, which is rare for a metaller. He's an encylopedia of metal/ extreme music though.

Hardcore never went away, the kids have been playing in basements and garages and small spaces since I can remember. When I lived in Vermont in the late 90's there were always shows going on, there was a space in Burlington where i saw Iceburn (in their jazzy stage, not their crunch stage) and there was a teen space in Brattleboro that was always having punk shows. Here in NYC there are weekly shows at ABCNO RIO and everytime I'm visiting the family in Maine I see shows advertised around Portland and New Hampshire.

But in the 90's you had all the Lookout and Billy Joe shit going quadruple platinum, and there's commercial bands that sort of hardcore sound (more of a cheap mosh metal with expensive gear really) but the singer starts singing the lamest lovey dovey lyrics. I want to kill him. Or worst, shitty rap pus.

For me, hardcore went down a dead end alley with "crust", its a one idea one sound, near tuneless guitar blur, the same fucking drum beat and a singer with less melody than a deisel engine. i think there is a similarity with some of the contemporary noise scene. People make a lifetime career out of one idea. Well , it keeps it simple and predictable for everyone. Or, they pour some kind of food product over the audience and themselves and the next day the blog-dogs are shouting "brilliant and genius"!

For me, the Negative Approach reunion was probably the most important event in American music last year. That and the Rhys Chatham tours.

Timmy Kids!!! I live above a bar that caters specifically to these kids! It's like a fucking costume party every night. What a bunch of poons.

Anyway, do you get the creeping suspicion that these "Timmy" boys are all racists? I mean besides the fact that they were all skinheads 8 years ago. Doesn't it seem weird to hearken back to the time immediately before the acquisition of Civil Rights for blacks and the Women's Movement? And to acknowledge nothing that came after it? I know some people just really like West Side Story, but maybe they should examine why they long so for that particular America. Oh well, I feel like I'm swimming in a sea of these people, had to get that off my chest.
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Patrik

my roommate last year was fashioncore. to this day hearing panic at the disco makes me want to kill.

i like some of the old school HC (minor threat, black flag, etc) but i never really got into anything more recent. just as well since i get beat up at punk shows cos i'm a skinny little white boy with long hair. the whole hardcore thing going on right now has nothing to do with hardcore, it's just nu-metal kids with asymmetrical haircuts.

My name is !@#$%!. I went to this party in a basement and these bands were playin' hardcore music. The crazy thing is I had just watched a documentary called American Hardcore. Creepy, right? So naturally I immediately thought to myself that this must surely be a trend and that hardcore was making a huuuuge comeback.


I wasn't aware that playing (usually very bad) hardcore in basements at parties ever went away, !@#$%!. When did it ever become a novelty to remark on as such?

Dudes and dudettes,

I went to a party and this group was playing old-school metal.
This surely means that metal is making a comeback. A huge comeback, mind you, and one worth remarking on here at the forum.

Everyone should know that metal is back because I saw this band at this party. Besides, I had just been watching Kiss Meets the Phantom in the Park and some Iron Maiden videos! That's just, like, too eerie, ya know?

But then, check this out...I went to a party and this band was playing an 800-year old Chinese zither, an accordion and a shortwave radio. Surely this must mean that avant-garde will now replace the mainstream!

The fact is that bands will always be playing hardcore (and metal too) in basements. :D

what, atari? i can't hear you. louder, please??

Hey, was anything playing on your TV when you smashed it? If so, what program?

what's that? louder please, i can't hear a word

Who does your decor?
It's exquisite.

This is some repugnant shit!
- Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and Shaft.

what? im having a hard time reading anything that you post. can't see a thing. can you make it bigger maybe?

Oh, I thought you were referring to me being on your ignore list. Thanks for that clarification.







You seem to have some rather curious synaesthesia going on there with your seeing and hearing. Perhaps you should be remanded to the Army Research Center in Fort Mead, Maryland, for further testing.

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By John Cooper Clarke
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wear your hair the wrong way round
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Shit, I didn't see this. Finally, someone with some damn sense.

Yes, gearheads must have their art, I agree!

See, if you were talking about Happy Hardcore I guarantee you you wouldn't've had this lamentable bitching.

For my ten penneth, I've noticed that the cities are having more hardcore shows in the last couple of years. Meanwhile, the small insular towns are continuing to have the same hardcore following they've had since I can remember.