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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 11.30.2006 11:11 PM

TCM tonight- 11:15- The Graduate
 
That is 4 minutes from now FYI.

k-krack 11.30.2006 11:13 PM

I just watched this on VHS yesterday! Fantastic movie.

nomowish 12.01.2006 11:59 AM

Yeah I caught it. First time I've ever seen it. So this is what inspired Wes Anderson.

I could have done without the S&G songs every 10 or so minutes + I was disappointed with how uninteresting Mrs. Robinson's daughter is and that Mrs. Robinson wasn't given very much to do afterwards + Maybe the most memorable thing about the movie is the director's use of space

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.01.2006 12:39 PM

Well, the movie is all from Ben's point of view, so once the affair ends and he goes up to Berkeley, you just naturally don't see her anymore. The movie is also edited so that you don't really see much of the conversation in his date with Elaine. The main thing about her is that he loves he because she isn't filled with bullshit like everyone he knows. You don't really get to see much of the date, and I think it is purposeful, to make he viewer question why Ben goes up to Berkeley to marry a girl that he barely knows.

!@#$%! 12.01.2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
I just watched this on VHS yesterday! Fantastic movie.


oh man, i hope it was letterboxed, what it means is "no chopped frames", because some shots are quite good and deserve not to be mutilated.

julian-- you watching tv in the middle of the day? ha ha-- you lazy wanker-- enjoy!! :D

--
ps oh, forget about it, your message was from last night

nomowish 12.01.2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Well, the movie is all from Ben's point of view, so once the affair ends and he goes up to Berkeley, you just naturally don't see her anymore.


Makes sense. But I was beginning to really sympathize with her; the scene where he tells her daughter about their affair was sad.

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
The movie is also edited so that you don't really see much of the conversation in his date with Elaine. The main thing about her that he loves is the fact that she isn't filled with bullshit like everyone he knows. You don't really get to see much of the date, and I think it is purposeful, to make the viewer question why Ben goes up to Berkeley to marry a girl that he barely knows.


Elaine's definitely cute. So what you're saying is that it doesn't matter what we think about his supposed object of affection. This is the problem I've had with the Spider-Man movies: what is it about Mary Jane that's got this dude so sprung? And what is it about Kate Winslet's character in Eternal Sunshine that's so endearing?

Rob Instigator 12.01.2006 03:18 PM

what struck me was the famous scene at the end, on the bus, where it looks like both of their minds are running around 100 miles per hour trying to figure out if what they have just done is RIGHT.

nomowish 12.01.2006 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
what struck me was the famous scene at the end, on the bus, where it looks like both of their minds are running around 100 miles per hour trying to figure out if what they have just done is RIGHT.


Spectral questioned whether the dude even loved her - a good question, I think. There certainly weren't enough scenes between them to justify how much they "loved" each other. He seemed to have made the decision out of nowhere (the scene where he tells his parents that he's gonna marry her, despite the fact that she doesn't even really like him, was funny).

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.01.2006 03:29 PM

awww man i missed it!!!!!!!
i love this movie.

Rob Instigator 12.01.2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nomowish
object of affection. This is the problem I've had with the Spider-Man movies: what is it about Mary Jane that's got this dude so sprung? And what is it about Kate Winslet's character in Eternal Sunshine that's so endearing?


they grew up together. peter parker has always loved her, since she was a kid. when he was 8 they used to bathe together and she would let him tickle her brown button while he let her nibble on his little sac o goodies
plus she is a tredhead, and no man I know can resist a redhead, even if they are crazy

kate winslet's character was just insane. I do not know about you buyt I am severely attrracted to beautiful damaged women with mental issues. nothing gets me hotter.


sonic life.

!@#$%! 12.01.2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
kate winslet's character was just insane. I do not know about you buyt I am severely attrracted to beautiful damaged women with mental issues. nothing gets me hotter.


exactly!

it's quite revealing of one's nature to make such a confession, but i am guilty of the same. why do i have to ask for trouble every time? why? because-- i couldn't do otherwise.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.01.2006 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I do not know about you buyt I am severely attrracted to beautiful damaged women with mental issues. nothing gets me hotter.


 

nomowish 12.01.2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
kate winslet's character was just insane. I do not know about you buyt I am severely attrracted to beautiful damaged women with mental issues. nothing gets me hotter.


She definitely has self-esteem issues... I don't know, maybe I'll watch it again when it's on cable.

gmku 12.01.2006 03:47 PM

Probably my favorite movie in the universe ever.

Next would be:

Groundhog Day
North by Northwest
Bottle Rocket
2001
The Shining
Gimme Shelter

Just in case you're wondering.

!@#$%! 12.01.2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I do not know about you buyt I am severely attrracted to beautiful damaged women with mental issues. nothing gets me hotter.



 


ha ha man

you forgot the key word: "beautiful"

but that is a hilarious pair of wackos.

king_buzzo 12.01.2006 04:29 PM

i just watched the last 30 minutes of road trip on tv

gmku 12.01.2006 04:40 PM

I have to add Stripes to my fave movie list, too.

"Lighten up, Francis." Kills me every time!

Rob Instigator 12.01.2006 05:10 PM

it has been my experience that women in general, at least from a man's point of view, are all "crazy" but the ones that are normal "woman crazy" are just boring. I like the overachievers, the real nutsos, the ones that could destroy a small peninsula or rule an island nation with a iron fist or wreack havoc through a lifetime of men not ready for the psychic damage inflicted.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.01.2006 05:11 PM

ROB: porno convention
you going?!

!@#$%! 12.01.2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it has been my experience that women in general, at least from a man's point of view, are all "crazy" but the ones that are normal "woman crazy" are just boring. I like the overachievers, the real nutsos, the ones that could destroy a small peninsula or rule an island nation with a iron fist or wreack havoc through a lifetime of men not ready for the psychic damage inflicted.


eh, that"crazy" which you discuss in the first part of your post is just the misogynous male expression for "someone who is capable of having and expressing emotions". that's not real crazyness.

i like the crazies that are very smart & highly neurotic with strong creative urges & the erotic tendencies of a deviant.

let me put it this way: once i was taking refuge in a friend's apartment from the outbursts of a fiery (in every way) girlfriend. when i told my friendwhat had been going on, he looked at me seriously and said "man, she's crazy!" he meant it like someone who needs treatment (which was true, she did). i said "of course!". then he asks "why can't you just find... a simple woman?" i thought of every peasant and shopkeeper in the world and laughed because, ha ha, i can't stand "simple" women. i love them complicated, difficult, interesting, unpredictable, and capable of rewarding my efforts with a transdimensional erotic payoff.


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