i got while my guitar violently bleeds for my b-day. it is excellent!

while my guitar... > polytheistic fragments

I always mean to pick up an album of theirs but it either is not there or I forget. However I've seen the youtube videos and I love it.

there was a really nice recording on dime last week, i'm still seeding this but if anyone without a dime account wants this i could put it up here

Sir Richard Bishop, Glasgow UK, 9th February 2008, AUD FLAC by gpark1uk

you should DL because most of the albums are out of print. and some of them go for 60-70$.

this is now up here
http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...?t=792&page=52

theyre virtually impossible to find in stores, which is a crime. ive never found any of their records anywhere besides amazon and ebay. not even insound has their stuff. i dont get why hugely influential bands like sun city girls, flipper, hanatarash, etc.. is so hard to find anywhere. even fall-hex enducation is virtuallly out of print.

well if you are in the boston area in the near future then twisted village in cambrige carries some of their recently rereleased albums. and dinamite records in northampton carries a few of their 90s output. they also have grotto of miricales for 40-60$ on vinyl. it was beautiful to see that...

most of flipper's discography is out of print because rick rubin holds the rights to all their studio shit and he got into an argument with them, he's basically taking the masters hostage, but according to billboard, they will be reissued this year.

hex enduction is pretty easy to find, i've seen it plenty, even the vinyl reish.

http://www.techgnosis.com/scg.html

The absolute best article you'll ever read about Sun City Girls. Only the Perfect Sounds Forever article comes close..

thanks. PSF is one of my favorite sites

This is really good news. This seems a very appropriate way for them to bid Charlie and the band goodbye instead of just becoming silent after his death.

After careful consideration, I'm thinking "Box of Chameleons" might be their defining work. 128 amazing songs!

thanks dude thats helpful

that article was perfect. it covered IN DETAIL every aspect of the bads conception, influences, live show, mystique, indiviudal members, long lives sun city girls.

best band of the 90's? yes.

yes, best band of the 90's.

Midnight Cowboys From Ipanema is pretty deadly too.

its definatly cool and i looove the rush cover, but there is a limit to the filler tracks where they start to play an acoustic siong, speed it up and stop after 15 seconds.
my favorites of theirs out of the ones that i know are in order from best to last

horse cock phepner
TOM
1st album
dulche
grotto of miracles
midnight cowboys
bright surroundings dark beginnings
valentines


i dled the crossdressers albm yesterday, i have yet ti hear it.
they and sir richard keep getting higher and higher in my favorite artists lists.
i they are #2 right now and he is nearing top 5-6

the alvarius b album is also really amazing.

sorry to correct you, but they started in the early 80's.

Yeah, the albums I saw at Amoeba were expensive, at least for me, at around twenty bucks each. But I can't find their shit online to DL, either.

Any one help me out here?

some sir richard bishop albums
http://flyguydiedance.blogspot.com/s...richard+bishop

Truly you are men of worth.

I know this, but I can think of better bands from the 80's.

So, since they existed in the 90's as well, I called them best band of the 90's.. see what I'm saying?

Now that I think about it, I guess I didn't really use it in proper context.

i thought you were all about gastr del sol, man.

I am.. actually, me and Booe (trombonist for Robe/Scissor Shock) just had a really long conversation about Cerberus Shoal and Gastr del Sol, because the new Scissor Shock songs I'm writing have a very distinct similiarity to those bands.

thanks to you guys I have discovered this awesome band. just listened to 'Valentines..' on the basis that everyone said they didnt like it much because it was jammy. thats my kinda thing and i loved it, so should i get self tilted or another earlier release?

get all of em. S/t is great though.
i didnt like valentines, not cause it was jammy but because it sound like shit. the guitars make too much noise and you cant hear CG's drums at all. there are some amazing songs towards the end though (amazing because you can differentiate between the instruments)

awesome, can't wait to hear them.

http://www.furious.com/perfect/charlesgocher.html

Excellent and somewhat pissy (?!? -- you'll see what I mean) tribute to Charles Gocher.

Also, I emailed the SCG about me covering their music and they gave me their blessing. Excellent. I'll post it on this thread when I finish it.

i just read that like two days ago. very intereting read.
and tht is too cool that they replied!

I'm going to the brothers unconnected tour stop in chicago.

i emailed them asking if there is any chance ghat they will ever make it to israel, but i told them that i figured that they wont cause of all their anti israel lyrics
alan bishop email back and said the expected that they will not be coming here.
o well
they are now my favorite band in the world.
yesterday i DLed
kaliflower
flute and mask and
jacks creek

listening to kaliflower-so good.

atsonic park. i am interested in hearing your opinions on their albums. any chance that you'll do and album by album review like you did with fahey? if you already did then sorry for asking.
in a few days ill also do one maybe, even though you have heard way more than me

Yeah, they're my favorite band too.

A few pages back, I talked about all the ones I'd heard at the time. I've since heard everything except a few of the casettes.. which I'll eventually get... if you have soulseek, add user Edweena .. he has just about everything.

Hahah I could one day talk a little in depth about all the releases, but I'll say my favorites are:

Box of Chameleons (128 tracks; a perfect primer and document of everything the band does well)
Horse Cock Phepner (fully-realized and brilliant in every way)
Borungku Si Derita 7" (just one of the best singles)
330,003 Crossdressers (moreso disc one than two, but... I honestly think if they'd cut the jammy/fillerish stuff from this disc, it could've really caught on and been a huge success amongst people; not that that notion ever really appealed to the Girls.. but anyway, all their best songs are on here)
Torch of the Mystics (duh)
CFR Radio (again, disc one is better, though disc two has a 14 minute poetry reading; it's a radio broadcast of Sun City girls playing a bunch of song snippets from other artists, their own music, them making noise in the studio, them just talking.. hilarious and fascinating.. they cover the Batman theme!)
Country Music from the World of Islam (I'm not sure what the origins of this is right now -- I think it was a casette release. Anyway, very very eclectic sounding stuff with almost no jamming or filler. Even though there are very few fully-realized songs, the songs here seem like sketches of what could have been classics... it's a very fascinating listen)
Carnival Folklore Resurrection 14: Static From The Outside Set (kind of like Radio but even better. Lots of jokes, cover songs, original songs.. including Sir Richard Bishop's amazing "Djano-ized"... spoken word stuff.. really, the whole thing is just fascinating stuff.. it wouldn't seem like it, but it's definitely worth listening to over and over)

The CFR series has a few hits but is usually not all that interesting unless you're primarily interested in Sun City girls's dicking around and making up stuff for hours. Which is good when the mood's right but not something you'll want to listen to versus their more refined stuff.

The casette series, what I've heard, is really fascinating stuff, really energetic, a lot of it reminds me of the Residents in a way actually, specifically commercial album era.. just short, crazy songs.. never last long enough to get on your nerves...

One of my favorite releases is a release called FOR DRUMMERS ONLY that was packaged with the decent Piano Bar.. it's almost all percussion, of course... Gocher is an extremely talented and underrated drummer with a really crisp sound...

Almost every album on suncitygirls.com's "main discography page" listing is worth getting in my opinion. Of the albums you just mentioned, I definitely dig Flute and Mask the most.

As far as solo albums go, Sir Richard Bishop's output is all great, but I'd definitely get "Salvadore Kali". Alvarius B's "Blood Operatives of the Barium Sunset" is probably one of the best albums ever made, but his split with Cerberus Shoal is also great.

Also worth looking into is Cerberus Shoal themselves, because all 3 Sun City Girls are actually on the last song on the album "Chaiming the Knobblesome". Cerberus are of a similiar Middle Eastern musical kick but way more complex, abstract, and ... it's like prog rock without any of the clichés (well, the first couple of albums are more like post rock but by Mr. Boy Dog, they started getting REALLY eclectic; there's an accordian on almost every song too). Also, if you haven't, look into all the Secret Chiefs 3 stuff.

It's weird, I first heard Torch of the Mystics 5 years ago. I really liked it but not so much that I'd investigate their work any further... because their discography is intimidating, to say the least. About 9 months ago, I played it for my friend and I was like "holy fuck I should get more" and I never looked back. At first, I was like, "okay, I'll only get the main albums" and then I got all the live albums and then... yeah. Again, it just kind of creeps into your skin after a while.

Amazing band. Even though not all of their 100+ releases is great, they're all at least interesting.

thanks, i was interested in hearing.
later ill write a few words about them...
i gotta go to dinner now

tape? what title is that? i'm a bit of an SCG completist, and this is news to me.

Well, my Death it lies alone between the seeds of 7 mangos, amidst a yellow patch of shrubbery where a couple Civets tango. And a droplet and a dollup dance decrepit dumplings deadly where a bobcat peers around the swag to listen to the medley -- and it's 5, 4, 3, 2 fingers up the neck of Django in a yellow patch of shrubbery where a couple Civets tango.

My heart is only honest in a town of 3 tomorrows where yesterday is flavored and the way is never sorrow, sippin' on a straw plugged into 7 lucky mangos amidst a yellow patch shrubery where a couple Civets tango -- -- and it's 5, 4, 3, 2 fingers up the neck of Django in a yellow patch of shrubbery where a couple Civets tango.

And here's a purposefully off, low fi, low pitched, cover/tribute to sun city girls.

scissor shock - blue mamba.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y7i8zb