AMM, Keith Rowe anyone?
 

I saw this mini doc awhile back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnUVpiFHhmM

i keep forgetting I need to give some of his stuff a listen

http://www.stage6.com/eattapes/video...%5B04-14-07%5D
http://www.stage6.com/eattapes/video...%5B04-14-07%5D
check theeeeese.

yay! Keith Rowe is fantastic.

Much of his recent work has been documented on Erstwhile Recrods. I would say his solo disc, The Room, from last year is an excellent place to start.
Maybe also look into some others working in a similar area: Otomo Yoshihide, Sachiko M, Toshimaru Nakamura, Oren Ambarchi, Taku Sugimoto.

I heard this thing he did with Toshimaru Nakamura called weather sky. Very cool.

One of the very few guitarists who, in spite of doing pretty similar things over the years, is still interesting. He's someone I always return to (particularly AMM) whenever I feel like 'experimental' music is just shit made for and by people who can't write a song (this criticism include myself).

amm is essential and pioneering. i still need to give rowe solo a listen.

I would just like to point out again that this CD (The Room) is really really really good. Been returning to it consistently for the last year or so. OK. Later.

i was just listening to the 4g - Cloud CD today, it's keith rowe, oren ambarchi, christian fennesz & toshimaru nakamura, it's a good'un. although EAI isn't not something i feel compelled to listen to on a regular basis.

a few momths back i saw eddie prevost with john butcher. that was a fantastic show. i also dig amm. a great album is the music now ensemble's silver pyramid. it has all the guys from amm and a few more

I have that record. It took me a while to get into it properly but then, BANG!, I was mesmerised by it.

Keith Rowe still be the lick, y'all. Shame him and Prevost came to blows after spending so longer together. Still, even a lesser "note" by them is still infinity plus one times better than anything most rock bands have farted out.

I got It Had Been An Ordinary Enough Day In Pueblo, Colorado a couple of weeks ago and enjoy that one very much. It's just Prevost and Rowe on that one and, although it occasionally meanders, there are some really lovely moments.

Prevost is good but he encourages all kinds of shitness via his improv workshop

I don't have a list, but this would feature highly in my list of improv records that aren't guff.

What makes his workshops so offensive? Have you been?
I'm curious.

yeah, i only went once, but there's kind of a subset of people within the improv scene who all met through his workshops and eddie prevost gave them all a leg up, and they make the most smug and self satified crap you could ever imagine. people like seymour wright, ross lambert & nathaniel catchpole. not that everyone who comes through his workshops is crap, mark wastell, rhodri davies & "the new london silence" people all first met at them in the 90s, but recently it's just a bunch of charismaless bum-chums.
not that this probably means anything to people outside of london....

The so-called "free-thinking" free improv scene in London contains some of the more narrow-minded and intolerant cunts this side of a BNP meeting. Fuck 'em.

Eddie Van Halen with A levels.

This is one of the reasons I like Mr Wastell. Leave the music to one side and he's just a common-or-garden Laaadhnaner who's well into the Who and the Jam.

Mr & Bowels is right though - there's a lot of piety to London improv, very little thinking outside the post-postmodernist, neo-reductionist box. I've got a Seymour Wright album - lovely packaging, has Ami Yoshida on it, but it's utter guff. And don't get me started on Taku 'I am the epitome of convoluted agenda' Sugimoto or Radu 'twatty rhetoric' Malfatti. Mattin can fuck off as well.

& without van Halen's talent.