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Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:21 PM

How can i start an article about Kim?
 
i made this article, which is more like an essay, about kim; the first paragraph i used for it got rejected like a million times, it originally said that most female bass players were important but minor players in the bands they were but that kim actually is the more visual member of the band and one of it's most important members.

the rest of the article deals with kim's presence in sy, her inspirations in art and music, her experimental nature, her impact as being crucial in the band's adoption of lowbrow/high brow art into sy's music, her influence on female artists of all strains and her liberation of artists to pursue other projects in the same or other disciplines.

but i need an intro, i need this done by now. please, give me ideas.

!@#$%! 10.01.2007 11:29 PM

start by declaring your hatred of leftist feminism, ha ha ha.

Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:31 PM

i don't hate leftist feminism.

i do hate dogma and narrowmindness.

!@#$%! 10.01.2007 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i don't hate leftist feminism.

i do hate dogma and narrowmindness.


good luck!

Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:34 PM

ohh yeah, i also hate extreme fundamentalism too.

i think i'll go play bikini kill's the singles now.

alyasa 10.01.2007 11:35 PM

Then state that in the history of feminism, narrowmindedness has always been common and that there have been many who fought to fight oppression and narrowmindedness, but none of them have ever quite been so cool, hip or culturally in tune as Ms. Kim Gordon.

!@#$%! 10.01.2007 11:36 PM

support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word:
fuck
the word is love

support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word:
fuck
the word is
love

there's a new girl in your life
long red wavy hair
green green lips and purple eyes
skinny hips and big brown breasts
hanging on your wall
one end slit the other's ripped

support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word
fuck
the word is love

support the power of women
use the flower of man

use the power of women
use the word
fuck
the word is love
use the word
support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word
fuck

the word is love

use the word
fuck

----

^^ i don't know about you, but i personally prefer suck my left one.

Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:38 PM

that's cool, but i tried to avoid sexism on the article.

the fact is, you get into feminism and you start messing with a lot of controversy (especially being a man) and, also, the other subject matters were given the "sex goddess" treatment by the other journalists and i hate that, to be honest.

!@#$%! 10.01.2007 11:40 PM


 


yea.

ok.

first line:

"i really much prefer right-wing cock rock, but..."

alyasa 10.01.2007 11:41 PM

Then you could mention in rock there are not many female iconic figures, or role models for girls to look up to in rock music, Sure, there's Bjork or Lindsay Lohan, but they don't rock. Then, Bam! Here Comes Empress Kim Gordon... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam...

Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:42 PM

give it up, i really need to do this.

!@#$%! 10.01.2007 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam...


yes. instead of bam write wham!


 

Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
Then you could mention in rock there are not many female iconic figures, or role models for girls to look up to in rock music, Sure, there's Bjork or Lindsay Lohan, but they don't rock. Then, Bam! Here Comes Empress Kim Gordon... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam...


probably...i'm going a different route and see how it goes, i'll probably work your idea too, might as well have some options.

thanks!

scott v 10.01.2007 11:48 PM

I dunno why but this thread just reminded me how this past weekend i scored a copy of an issue of Artforum January 1983, that includes an article called "i'm really scared when i kill in my dreams" written by Kim, detailing the nyc no-wave music scene and the brief but detailed experience of a live PIL show that practically turned into a riot (i actually have a friend who attended that show) the article has cool photos of Branca. if i can get it scanned i'll try to post it.

Everyneurotic 10.01.2007 11:50 PM

i mentioned kim's articles in artform and such but that version got rejected.

would love to see the scans.

alyassa: i can't use your idea as two of the other subject matters are patti smith and pj harvey.

SynthethicalY 10.02.2007 12:11 AM

Write about her ideas from early on, to now. How they have changed, or progressed into different areas. Music, Film, Art. But I think you already did this with your body.

alyasa 10.02.2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i mentioned kim's articles in artform and such but that version got rejected.

would love to see the scans.

alyassa: i can't use your idea as two of the other subject matters are patti smith and pj harvey.

You can, because the two of them are also female rock icons. And they are about as mainstream as you can go for female rock icons...

Georgekrz 10.02.2007 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v
I dunno why but this thread just reminded me how this past weekend i scored a copy of an issue of Artforum January 1983, that includes an article called "i'm really scared when i kill in my dreams" written by Kim, detailing the nyc no-wave music scene and the brief but detailed experience of a live PIL show that practically turned into a riot (i actually have a friend who attended that show) the article has cool photos of Branca. if i can get it scanned i'll try to post it.


please do it.

also to o/p, in the opening paragraph you politely tell the editor to go fuck himself...

Everyneurotic 10.02.2007 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Write about her ideas from early on, to now. How they have changed, or progressed into different areas. Music, Film, Art. But I think you already did this with your body.


i did that for my first version, mentioned most of her bands, her expositions, her acting, clothes designs, etc. and my editor told me it looked like i ripped it off from wikipedia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Georgekrz
...also to o/p, in the opening paragraph you politely tell the editor to go fuck himself...


believe me, that's what i've been wanting to do for the past couple of weeks.

pbradley 10.02.2007 12:42 AM

Talk about how her name backwards is Nodrog Mik and how cool that is.


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