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Florya 04.23.2007 03:42 PM

V/VM - Yay or Nay?
 
me- yay!

you?

sarramkrop 04.23.2007 03:47 PM

Yay! First album of his that i've ever bought was 'Sick Love'. It sounds like taking acid at a party and crying crocodile tears. I'm quite the fan and even drop the odd line to him to let him know, nice chap. I think you might also like DJ Speedranch And Jansky Noise, if you like V/VM.

Savage Clone 04.23.2007 03:48 PM

I have no problems with this outfit.

DJ Rick 04.23.2007 04:04 PM

I love everything I've heard by V/vm.

Toilet & Bowels 04.23.2007 05:40 PM

their version of total eclipse of the heart is fantastic, and seemingly impossible toget hold of

sarramkrop 04.23.2007 06:09 PM

There's an interesting interview with him on here:
http://www.connexionbizarre.net/inte...estrecords.htm

And DJ Speedranch and Jansky Noise on youtube:

Madrid Live - Part 1

Madrid Live - Part 2

Zaragoza Part 1

Zaragoza Part 2

Zaragoza Part 3

Florya 04.24.2007 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
There's an interesting interview with him on here:
http://www.connexionbizarre.net/inte...estrecords.htm

And DJ Speedranch and Jansky Noise on youtube:

Madrid Live - Part 1

Madrid Live - Part 2

Zaragoza Part 1

Zaragoza Part 2

Zaragoza Part 3


Thanks for the links. Especially the interview.

sarramkrop 04.24.2007 04:09 AM

I assume you've already checked out his website. There's tons of mp3s on there, so you might get an idea of what to buy next.

Florya 04.24.2007 05:06 AM

I've already ordered the new Caretaker album and the Zatsu Ongaku Compilation. I'm tempted by the 'Sick Love Will Tear Us Apart' 7" but I'll have to wait until next week.

Pookie 04.24.2007 05:19 AM

I bought the HelpAphexTwin album, but it was a bit gimmicky for my tastes.

sarramkrop 04.24.2007 05:39 AM

That's not the best he's done, and in fact i've found the whole Aphex Twin jelousy thing a little irritating, even though i'm not Richard James's biggest fan.

Toilet & Bowels 04.24.2007 05:49 AM

yeah, i don't really understand this whole beef they have with him

sarramkrop 04.24.2007 05:53 AM

Did you read the fake letter applying for a job at the Warp label that he wrote at the end of last year? I didn't know wether i should find that to be funny or a little sad.

sarramkrop 04.24.2007 05:57 AM

Here it is:
http://www.spannered.org/blog/1142/

Funny in parts, but also a little bitter.

Glice 04.24.2007 02:53 PM

V/VM are rubbish in an entirely agreeable fashion. Yay, says I.

sarramkrop 02.12.2008 08:49 AM

Check this out: http://brainwashed.com/vvm/micro/freenoise/index.html


noisereductions 10.22.2008 07:03 AM

SICK LOVE was the only album I ever got by them. It's disturbing. But interesting. Never ventured out beyond that one though.

sarramkrop 01.10.2009 09:10 AM

let's forget playing instruments for once, this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PGp-9WvIZGU remains unexplained, and proof that sometimes some records can create a whole world inside you that you can't figure out why it exists.

greedrex 01.10.2009 09:30 AM

why doesn't anybody ever mention the almighty CARBON RECORDS label?

greedrex 01.10.2009 09:31 AM

you know?

Everyneurotic 01.26.2009 01:11 PM

for the little a have listened of v/vm, yay; needs further investigation.

and a big yay for cock esp.

batreleaser 01.26.2009 10:17 PM

i just mentioned him last week on the antler piss thread, but yeah, hes rad. i like the free noise site a lot.

batreleaser 01.26.2009 10:32 PM

or sanguine piss rather

Genteel Death 10.21.2009 05:14 AM

Leyland Kirby
by Joeri Bruyninckx

 

Ex-V/Vm prankster James Leyland Kirby made an ambitious triple compact disc album with the brilliant title ‘Sadly, the future is no longer what it was’. It’s a concept album about how our initial euphoric optimism about the world wide web eventually turned us all into isolated voyeurs.

When I first heard the title ‘Sadly, the future is no longer what it was’, I thought it was meant as a cynical remark. But when I started listening to the music itself, I understood that you were serious about it, which made the music more meaningful to me.
The title is very ambiguous. I think it mainly refers to the lack of spirit anymore for everything. There were times in the past when we all collectively seemed to have so much to look forward too, we were sold dreams via the media, the same media which now tells us we have nothing to look forward to and leaves most people living in fear. It’s about that lack of optimism and the fact that we seem to go backwards when in actual fact it’s a great time for many things. It’s about time we retook control of our future instead of having it mapped out for us. The title is also personal in many ways.

How?
At the start of recording my own future was not what it had to be and I had to adapt to that situation. It’s also more personal in the sense of its creation as it’s not based on any samples or reworking of existing audio. The Caretaker work for example always feels a little dislocated whereas the new work was created from nothing, so all of the piano playing, the melodies and sounds I worked on myself to create how I was feeling. It’s really an audio scrapbook of one calendar year from September 2008 to September 2009.

Why did you wait until now to release a record using your own name?
It’s the first time in all of the years that finally I am at a position so that whereby if I have an idea musically I could reproduce that idea in sound, technology wise now it’s never been better to be able to make music which we can connect to ourselves with, and yet many people out there seem to be focussing more on the technology they are using trying to outdo people with little tricks which when used usually sees the music actually get worse. I think this is where electronic based music seems to have lost its way right now, too many tools being used by too many fools who are following all the rules.

When I already feel sad and I listen to your music, it makes me feel less sad. Like my father once said that he never felt really alone anymore once he discovered the music of Bob Dylan.
A lot of people have been telling me that this music provides them with an emotional response, that is great, the intention was to create a body of work this time around, something which should stand the test of time that doesn’t rely on the sound of now, but relies on many things. There for sure is a hint of loss and sadness, but I feel through this there is still an optimism in there that things will work out in the end. A trust in life to sort itself through entropy. I just made a video which documents in a basic way that year, I will show it in England and it will be available to stream online soon, it uses the track ‘Sadly, the future is no longer what it was’ from the release.

The theme of isolation is one that often returns when you talk about this record. Like in this quote: “Here we stand, twenty years on from the first CD, and our optimism has been gradually eroded away collectively. 'Tomorrows World' never came. We are lost and isolated, many of us living our lives through social networks as we try to make sense of it all, becoming voyeurs not active participants. Documenting everything. No Mystery. Everything laid bare for all to see".
I think I am a realist, things aren’t working right now in society for many different reasons. I’m not a political man but I can see politics don’t work, people on the whole seem lost, tired and bored. Music has gone the same way, maybe it’s the overwhelming choice out there, but there seems to be no focus now from both people making things and also to those who wish to consume what is made. Current music seems devoid of ideas and of quality as it has become easier to make things so more make less and less music which is of any value. I am sure in the past I have been guilty of this too, but now it’s a good time to take more time and focus totally on the work coming out and take a little more time and care.

I think that the last ambient record I bought must have been ‘Select Ambient Works Vol. II’ by Aphex Twin. So your ‘Sadly, the future…’ record is my first ambient record in 15 years. Or don’t you see your record as an ambient record?
Ambient sadly was ruined in the 90’s with those awful chill out series of releases and Café Del Mar style CDs. What I have done with the new work will be seen by many as being ambient as it has taken many ambient reference points from the past using them with new technology. There are some interesting things happening in this field right now, the amazing work of William Basinski, the work on Ghostbox and Mordant Music, it’s great for me to be mentioned alongside their work and also to work in such an uncool field of music these days. Ambient is kind of dead but something new is happening again.

Do you still work at the tempo of one new track each day?
I can work very fast and very slow, it’s nice not to have the pressure of making something everyday, although I would like to have more time right now to make music. Day to day living and surviving gets in the way. Plus when you do more or less everything yourself, like mail order, contacting people who have mailed, promotion, distribution, it’s all consuming. Sometimes I wish I could just make the music and let somebody else deal with everything else as it would be so much easier, but it was never going to be easy for me anyway. I do the best that I can do with the one pair of hands I h

Genteel Death 10.21.2009 05:14 AM

You used to have the reputation of someone who parties hard, but these days, it seems like you hardly party. No pig masks and colourful outfits anymore, but black and white Youtube videos.
Oh believe me in Berlin I still party hard, I just spent a week at the Incubate festival in Tilburg and it was one long party there. I think it was just time to switch the program for myself and show people that despite all the hack ups and destructive music I used to make it was always possible to make something of sadness and beauty. It’s nice also to prove some people wrong who constantly said over the years that all I have done is detune a pop song, that period when I was doing that it was important to use new tools and push copyright laws. Now everybody is doing that, it’s totally normal and accepted as a style. I was watching that documentary ‘RIP-A remix manifesto’, I mean V/Vm was the ultimate in Ripping It in the late 90’s, nobody ripped more. Of course on the film there is no mention, most of the main people on there were influenced by V/Vm but it’s kind of been erased as they still trade on that style which is kind of tired now but more popular.




 
You release your music and run your label as a one man company.
Yeah it’s all been run by myself since 1999, it’s the future way of working where you control everything, old models are out dated now you just need to be able to adapt and move fast. I have been on the outside of everything for a while now but prefer it that way.

I’m from Belgium. In the Belgian media, there’s kind of a New Beat Revival right now: there are New Beat parties again, and New Beat compilations. They even sell the New Beat badges again. But strangely enough, when I google the internet to find out what this was all about, the third article is the ‘Belgian New Beat’ page on the V/Vm website. Why were you so fascinated by New Beat?
It’s great New Beat is coming back over there, I remember it first time around, going out in Stockport and Manchester and hearing this dark music. It’s strange, when I did the New Beat pages it had almost been erased online, it’s the forgotten music. It influenced so many people in Britain that style to make music of their own.

Did you ever visit Belgium at the time to go to New Beat parties?
I never got to Belgium at the time as I was too young, but in ‘89-‘90 there were some great parties with that music and it was so new, totally underground. Manchester totally responded to the style and even released some of the music, Rhythm Device’s ‘Acid rock’ for example was released by Eastern Bloc and was one of the biggest tunes back in the day. Great energy and good times in the clubs back then.

Were you ever in Boccaccio in Destelbergen (the so called ‘New Beat temple’, at the time, jb)?
I did make it to Destelbergen when I was making the New Beat audio, it was a cold winter’s night and I went with an ex-girlfriend and we got super drunk on Duvel in the only open bar much to the amusement of the locals. It’s a super quiet place now, but an important one in the evolution of electronic music.




 
Why did you move from Stockport to Berlin?
I had to get out of England as it’s just not good over there these days, it’s a real depressing grind. An opportunity arose to move to Berlin so I took it. A lot of people move here, it’s a very transient city which brings its own problems. I guess it has the advantage of the big city but you still don’t feel like you’re in a city. It’s relaxed here compared with England so it makes sense to be here now though it’s not an ultimate destination. I’m eager not to return to England but will have to see where and when I will go somewhere else. I’m settled here for now, but things can change quickly.

The first time I saw you playing live was in a friend’s living room in Tienen. This concert was very much over the top. Very hilarious. If I remember well, you fell off a stair that night and even broke your foot.
Yeah, the old V/Vm shows could often descend into chaos, the one in Tienen was a classic, I ended up rolling down a flight of stairs and dislocating my kneecap. I went to hospital after in Liège, my friend who played me also sliced his hand open, so we were in casualty till 4am and flew back at 6am. They had to carry me off the plane in Berlin, three shows only on that trip, and I couldn’t leave my third floor flat for three months after... No wonder I don’t do many of those shows these days.

Last summer, I bought a second hand DVD at a flea market because I really liked the title. It was called ‘The fearless freaks’. Apparently, it was a documentary about The Flaming Lips. Anyway. Do you see yourself as a fearless freak?
I try not to have any fears musically. For years people and musicians laughed at me when I was giving audio away, from back in 1996, online. Now they all do it. They also laughed at the work I did abusing copyright for a long time and then in the end they all dabbled in that too. Now with ambient I guess it’s uncool but it will come around again. For me I just go where I find some energy where music and life are concerned. I was lucky to grow up when I did through some amazing musical times, if I was 10 years younger I would have missed out on so much innovation.

And my final question: did you ever get contacted by people who think you are nude model Kirby Leyland?
No but maybe I should contact her when I next visit Britain.

You really should.


-- Joeri Bruyninckx (20 October, 2009)

http://www.digitalisindustries.com/f....php?which=429

batreleaser 10.21.2009 02:56 PM

good to listen to stoned, my tastes for out shit have kinda dwindled though, prolly cuz ive been drinking more than smoking.


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