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LittlePuppetBoy 01.05.2007 01:55 PM

left or right?
 
politically speaking...which do you find yourself belonging to?

I'm more of the political left, but not extremely politically left. I am a bit conservative in some areas though (age of consent should be high, legal drinking age).

SynthethicalY 01.05.2007 02:01 PM

I am a conservative with left wing values.

Grete 01.05.2007 02:02 PM

right

compulsive diarrhea, jico 01.05.2007 02:02 PM

center-left.

DemonBox 01.05.2007 02:14 PM

far left.

jon boy 01.05.2007 02:15 PM

left but not to the point where i become right if you know what i mean. i have a sense of humour and common sense left.

Inhuman 01.05.2007 02:39 PM

Left. Not very left. Just left. I'd like to keep walking left. And be less right.

Destroy Rock 'n' Roll 01.05.2007 04:40 PM

Social-Liberalist.

(Centre-left)

fishmonkey 01.05.2007 04:41 PM

left handed anyways
could'nt give a fuck about politics.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 01.05.2007 04:43 PM

god is always right

right.

nature scene 01.05.2007 05:32 PM

libertarian, classical liberal, whatever you want to call it. not Left, not Right.

EMMAh 01.05.2007 05:38 PM

I'm pretty far left.

compulsive diarrhea, jico 01.05.2007 05:55 PM

far left
 


far right
 

Bastian 01.06.2007 05:44 AM

I considered myself to be left for a long time, but nowadays, I don't believe in the whole left/right thing anymore. It's all identity bullshit. "I'm left". "I'm right".. and what does that tell me about someone? Next to nothing, because the words can mean so many different, antithetic things.

Also, parts of the radical left are pretty close to nazi ideology, especially so called 'anti-imperialsts', so fuck all this. Don't be "left" or "right", but rather be for or against certain politics or ideas.

Here's an interesting text critical of the left, or what has become of it: http://www.maxeiner-miersch.de/left_...the_left_e.htm

Quote:

Farewell to Anti-Fascism:
The Left Subscribes Increasingly to Far Right Slogans


Anyone who places the pamphlets of the Left anti-globalisers and the neo-Nazis side by side will immediately detect much overlap. The slogans of both movements are increasingly not only similar, but identical. "Work, not profit!" is the catch cry of the German neo-Nazis. Horst Mahler, an anti-Western activist who moved from the Leftist Red Army Faction to the neo-Nazi Party, typifies the Left-Right convergence. He declared The Globalisation Trap, the cult book of the anti-globalisers, "a must read". He opined: "The enemy of all peoples of the world is an octopus of anonymously, globally interwoven speculative capital." That might also be read on any of the handbills produced by the Attac mob. If the anti-Western movements of the Left and the Right were to integrate, they would not need to change their course. Both already use indiscriminately any ideological line that can be used against free trade, open borders, America and Israel. [..]

[..] Their shared values are not confined to social and economic policy. "For peace! Against US wars!" could be read on last year's election campaign posters of the neo-Nazis. Both wings, however, confined their love of peace to attacking Western military actions. By contrast, they display deep sympathy for Islamic terror. Exactly like the neo Nazis, many on the Left consider terror as a defence of the Islamic-Arab identity against Western capitalism and cultural imperialism. Oskar Lafontaine wants to grant the clerico-fascist regime of the Iranian mullahs a right to nuclear weapons, since Israel also has such weapons. The fact that Iran wants to wipe out Israel, and not vice versa, does not seem to faze them.

Here's the Euston Manifesto, which offers some good ideas to reform the left and overcome a lot of the things there are criticized in the above link
http://eustonmanifesto.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemi d=38

Tokolosh 01.06.2007 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
god is always right

right.


How the fuck does religion fit into politics?

That's one of the major problems with a lot of voters. They keep bringing god into the picture.

Don't wanna pick on you, but that's a dumbass post crypto.

ps: And don't tell that you were joking!

sonic sphere 01.06.2007 07:35 AM

left. but not that left!

James Blonde 01.06.2007 09:01 AM

James Blonde stands alone.

val-holla-ing 01.06.2007 11:31 AM

not too far left, because i hate hippies.

far enough, though.

porkmarras 01.06.2007 11:47 AM

Far out.

Pookie 01.06.2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
not too far left, because i hate hippies.

far enough, though.


Hippies weren't left wing.

Man.

val-holla-ing 01.06.2007 12:28 PM

sure they were, man. they were, like, going against the grain and stuff, and like, sticking it to the man...man.

Pookie 01.06.2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
sure they were, man. they were, like, going against the grain and stuff, and like, sticking it to the man...man.


The man being right wing man or left wing man...man.

val-holla-ing 01.06.2007 12:32 PM

totally the right wing man, cuz, like, he wasn't righteous or nothin', man.

i'd like to take this opportunity to say that i hate man man.

SynthethicalY 01.06.2007 12:40 PM

I hate that expression, I'm sticking it to the man. That said I am in between like I said. I can't stand the far left, and I can't stand the far right. Just in between.

Malachi_Constant 01.06.2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
god is always right

right.


I'm just going to go ahead and assume this statement was a joke. Sure read like one.

Far left, myself. I tend to argue philosophy more than politics whenever people bring up all this partisan bullshit. Boil the arguments down to their essences and get to the amorphous, meaningless bottom of things.

k-krack 01.06.2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing

i'd like to take this opportunity to say that i hate man man.

?!?! Why?! They're fun and hilarious!

Danny Himself 01.06.2007 04:55 PM

You need two wings to fly, dude.

CHOUT 01.06.2007 05:28 PM

I'm left...handed.

val-holla-ing 01.06.2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-krack
?!?! Why?! They're fun and hilarious!


and probably going to get sued by tom waits. not really, though.

Danny Himself 01.06.2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHOUT
I'm left...handed.


Me too!

porkmarras 01.06.2007 06:13 PM

What sort of nonsense is this anyway?Hmmmm, i can smell some nice food being cooked next door.

afterthefact 01.06.2007 09:49 PM

I am politically neutral, but if I had to pick, I'd say left, just because I don't play golf.

Inhuman 01.07.2007 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterthefact
I am politically neutral, but if I had to pick, I'd say left, just because I don't play golf.


Golf and a rich lifestyle sicken me. This is partially hypocritical, because I work at one of the most high end ottawa golf clubs, but I can't stand the golfers. I hate seeing people driving around in hummers with so much pride in their belongings when there's people who really need it.

schizophrenicroom 01.07.2007 01:37 AM

i want all people that drive hummers and their cars to burn.

Inhuman 01.07.2007 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
i want all people that drive hummers and their cars to burn.


Good call! And burn by homeless people!

schizophrenicroom 01.07.2007 01:59 AM

of course, my friend.


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