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Pookie 09.02.2006 06:50 AM

What's the ideal length of a studio album?
 
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nicfit 09.02.2006 06:53 AM

45-60 , shorter for punk-plain rockin'out records.

Pookie 09.02.2006 06:57 AM

Before CD's, albums used to be about 45 mins long. Anymore then the quality of the recording suffered. Obviously double/triple LP's were released, which were of greater length.

What I noticed with the arrival of CD's was that quality control largely disappeared as bands released double-LP length albums as a matter of course, filling up the space of a CD.

Norma J 09.02.2006 07:04 AM

I dont think it matters the length of an album. Aslong as the content is good.

nicfit 09.02.2006 07:10 AM

 

i like this smiley,nothing to do with the thread...norma j,actually i prefer shorter hi-quality album (if a band/author has many good songs ready i prefer 2 discs released,say,6 month one from another),coz i find it easier to mantain the "attention level" high throughout the whole record,sorta kill bill style type of thing....if you understand what i mean.imo the only SY album a bit too long is A thousand Leaves,but the content is great nonetheless.

HaydenAsche 09.02.2006 03:25 PM

Less than 45 minutes. Arab on Radar's Yahweh or the Highway and Erase Errata's Other Animals are perfect.

nicfit 09.02.2006 03:31 PM

^^^^
that's right,i meant that in my earlier post (some genres are more effective on the short distance)

k-krack 09.02.2006 03:38 PM

Depends on the music. some require long time (ie: mars volta) some with less intricate/jammy music can do it in less. punk/hardcore records should be half hour or less, i think. if the musics good, i don't care.

Style 09.02.2006 04:17 PM

45 to 60 mins is my favorite length. Albums that are over an hour long can be hard to listen to in one sitting. I rather listen to an ep than a shorter album.

Savage Clone 09.02.2006 04:18 PM

I am gonna go with 45-55 minutes for a single album as well.

blots 09.02.2006 04:20 PM

I think 30-40 minutes is usually right for most bands...I generally cringe if I see more than 15 songs on a record, very few bands need that kind of length. It's not a "bonus" to waste my time with crap filler, and on that note I don't like bonus tracks that much either. For some reason the standard after the fall of vinyl seems to be 60 minutes, which is enough to make me go from indifference to pure hatred listening to an album. I pay for the album not the length, and a lot of times these "economical" albums are worth a lot less to me. There are some bands that need the length for their ambition, I think whatever's right is right. But a long album has to justify its length in my opinion, a lot of bands seem to think the good will float to the surface in a sea of shit. Double albums on vinyl were much more of a risk I think than an 80 minute CD because it was an album on four sides, which makes it more apparent when there's nothing in the middle.

acousticrock87 09.02.2006 05:27 PM

60-75

I enjoy filler. It's just more material. You still get the other stuff. I will sometimes not buy a CD if it's too short. I'm not going to spend $15 on 30 minutes of decent music. I will, however, spend that much on an hour of decent music.

Toilet & Bowels 09.02.2006 05:40 PM

well it depends on the band, but generally i appreciate it when people have the courtesy to keep things brief.

k-krack 09.02.2006 05:46 PM

I disagree with you, acoustik. i just paid 16 bucks for eleven minutes of killer music. (Femme Fatale) and am really quite satisfied with my purchase. and someone up there said something about albums with more than 15 tracks, i also disagree. So many bands can pull it off and keep my attention easily. (The Locust, Husker Du, etc)

porkmarras 09.02.2006 05:48 PM

If a band has the talent i don't mind the long listening jouney.

acousticrock87 09.02.2006 06:00 PM

I have a few 10 minute CDs that are awesome (Whirlwind Heat - Flamingo Honey is a spectacular 10 min. CD). However, I still consider them to be a waste of money. I think that out of courtesy they should either a) lower the price to that of a single ($5 max) or b) put more effort into it. Obviously imports have an adjusted ratio, but just in general I think that the price should be affected by how much material you're getting. That's just me, though. There is no reason to sell 10 minutes for the same high price.

Though, I hate huge 15 minute gaps at the end of the last track leading into a "hidden" song.

LifeDistortion 09.02.2006 07:19 PM

If I'm listening to a pure rock album, short and raw is best. Ramones exemplifed this. Yet, there is nothing wrong with an epic album, if its done right. "The Wall", or "Daydream Nation", for example. I love the journey these albums put me on, it feels cinematic, or even like a sonic novel of sorts. Yes 60mins or over can and often are artists at thier most over-blown and pretentious, but when its done right you feel like you've been somewhere by the last few notes of the album, and can be quite satisfying. Albums that never feel too long:

Sonic Youth-DDN

The Clash- London Calling

Blur-Modern Life Is Rubbish

Refused-Shape of Punk to Come

and of coruse Bob Dylan-Blonde on Blonde

k-krack 09.02.2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
Though, I hate huge 15 minute gaps at the end of the last track leading into a "hidden" song.


uh-huh.i wanna know "why? why not just put it directly after, another track for eff's sake."

nomadicfollower 09.02.2006 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
60-75

I enjoy filler. It's just more material. You still get the other stuff. I will sometimes not buy a CD if it's too short. I'm not going to spend $15 on 30 minutes of decent music. I will, however, spend that much on an hour of decent music.



What I would've said if I wasn't so lazy.

blots 09.02.2006 07:28 PM

The 15 tracks thing was kind of just a general rule, tracks don't really mean anything. Locust has very short songs, and as for Husker Du, Zen Arcade easily justifies its length for me. Le Scrawl's entire discography "Too Short to Ignore" is 66 songs at something like 55 minutes... There are a lot of very slow bands, or very sprawling bands who might only fit two songs in that time frame.

I don't really understand what use extra time is, other than taking up time. In many cases I see the album as a whole to be just as important as each song, so it's not still getting the other stuff, it's getting inconsistency and mediocrity. The amount of material is not really what you're buying, it's the work as a whole...otherwise just go to a dollar bin and buy 10 CDs rather than one, it's a much better deal. Music doesn't really end with the start and stop buttons anyway, it just seems irrelevant...the work is either worth it or it's not. Compilations are a slightly different issue, but usually the length will depend on the goal, if you're trying to get an overview of an artist's entire career it makes sense that there will be more material. Though these tend to be an excellent example of poor choices in the tracklisting being a detriment to the work as a whole. The only reason I say 30-40 minutes is because that's what a lot of, shall we say pop, artists seem have in them. When something is great it doesn't matter how long it is, and greatness isn't so scarce that I need mediocrity to take up the extra time in between.


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