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evollove 01.14.2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Joni Mitchell
Ladies Of The Canyon
Blue
For The Roses
Court And Spark


That's just the conventional wisdom.


Conventional wisdom doesn't care for HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS? The second half is ever so slightly weaker than the first, but it's overall one of my favs. But what do I know? Everyone else must be right.

What's most interesting about Joni, Kate and possibly PJ is that not only are they capable of releasing a string of strong records, but they reinvent themselves along the way. I mean, it's one thing to make three or four good ones in a row. It's another to stretch artistically and veer off into new directions while still producing worthy records. Brave and astonishing, really.

The Soup Nazi 01.14.2016 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Conventional wisdom doesn't care for HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS? The second half is ever so slightly weaker than the first, but it's overall one of my favs. But what do I know? Everyone else must be right.



No, fuck 'em, they're wrong. The Hissing Of Summer Lawns is one of my very favorites — it just completely melts me away (which is a good thing, you follow). Also, I'm not positive about this but I don't think anyone had done something like "The Jungle Line" in "pop" music before her. When I heard Björk's "Earth Intruders" I immediately thought, "The Jungle Line!" (and I dug it, even though I'm not crazy about The Icelandic One). At the time I didn't know she had previously covered "The Boho Dance"... also from Summer Lawns, whaddayaknow.

ANYWAY, yes evollove, the mooks who write this shit's history in a conveniently tidy fashion close Joni's peak-era with Court And Spark, because afterwards she got all, like, pretentiously jazzy and poetic and shit. Morons.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/10hhqf

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Originally Posted by evollove
What's most interesting about Joni, Kate and possibly PJ is that not only are they capable of releasing a string of strong records, but they reinvent themselves along the way. I mean, it's one thing to make three or four good ones in a row. It's another to stretch artistically and veer off into new directions while still producing worthy records. Brave and astonishing, really.


Agreed, except for the "possibly" — that's a "definitely" on Harvey.
:)

Severian 01.14.2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
What's most interesting about Joni, Kate and possibly PJ is that not only are they capable of releasing a string of strong records, but they reinvent themselves along the way. I mean, it's one thing to make three or four good ones in a row. It's another to stretch artistically and veer off into new directions while still producing worthy records. Brave and astonishing, really.


Mmhmm. This is one of the most important parts of the equation to me. It's why I prefer Sonic Youth to Fugazi. It's why I see Kanye West as being utterly without rival in the genre of hip-hop. It's why I love and respect the Flaming Lips so much. Even though some of their experiments don't really pan out, they never stop trying new things.

In PJ's discography, there are, like, a minimum of three different PJ's. The Flaming Lips probably shouldn't even be talked about using any umbrella terms to define their sound. Sonic Youth covered so many different styles and sounds that it's truly difficult to describe them to someone who's never heard them. Are they punk? Rock? Noise? Pop? No wave? Improvisational/jam? Sound collagists? Indie rock? Art-punk? Ambient? Yes and no to all of the above.

This is something that goes back to the Beatles, and later Bowie (quite possibly to an even greater degree).

Making album after album of the same old shit is all fine and good, especially if it's done well. But it's got nothing on the kind of systematic world conquering that music's most adventurous artists engage in.

In other words, I love Guided by Voices. Always will. But I don't feel the need to keep more than 2 of their albums on my iPod. Conversely, I wouldn't be able to to last long without direct exposure to the entire catalogue of artists sy, Beatles, Bowie, Lips, Kanye, PJ...

evollove 01.14.2016 05:42 PM

^ I hear where you're coming from, but I think I'm talking about the sort of artistic break from the past that risks alienating the old audience. In fact Kate's breakthrough THE DREAMING got a lukewarm critical reception and poor sales, and people who loved BLUE bailed pretty quickly on poor Joni. Gotta love chicks with balls.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi


Ha! I'm so happy you have too much free time.

The Soup Nazi 01.14.2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
It's why I see Kanye West as being utterly without rival in the genre of hip-hop.


Dude, no, look, let's keep the conversation sane. That douchebag doesn't have two decent consecutive SONGS.

The Soup Nazi 01.14.2016 06:26 PM

So why haven't you sons of guns mentioned these?

Roxy Music
Roxy Music
For Your Pleasure
Stranded
Country Life


Brian Eno
Here Come The Warm Jets
Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)
Another Green World
Before And After Science


OK, so there's Discreet Music and Evening Star and Cluster & Eno between them, but you know, this is his, um, "song albums" tetralogy.

Talking Heads
Talking Heads: 77
More Songs About Buildings And Food
Fear Of Music
Remain In Light


Hüsker Dü
Everything Falls Apart
Zen Arcade
New Day Rising
Flip Your Wig


Actually, you could replace Everything Falls Apart with Metal Circus. When an EP is THAT good, why not!

R.E.M.
Chronic Town
Murmur
Reckoning
Fables Of The Reconstruction


See above for EP policy.

The Replacements
Hootenanny
Let It Be
Tim
Pleased To Meet Me

Spoon
Gimme Fiction
Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Transference
They Want My Soul



Y'know what, forget four in a row; let's try three. YOU try to make three pièces de résistance in a row. It ain't easy, degenerates!

The Stooges/Iggy & The Stooges
The Stooges
Fun House
Raw Power


Richard & Linda Thompson
I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight
Hokey Pokey
Pour Down Like Silver

Wire
Pink Flag
Chairs Missing
154


Bob Dylan
Bringing It All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde On Blonde


Well, there is a fourth one here: The Basement Tapes Complete, which is beyond an album — it's the motherfucking motherload.

Can
Tago Mago
Ege Bamyasi
Future Days

Public Image, Ltd.
Public Image: First Issue
Metal Box
Flowers Of Romance

Severian 01.14.2016 07:24 PM

I agree with almost all of those too.

Started to get into Hüsker Dü last time I posted, but I had a "really? This is what I'm doing right now?" moment and bailed.

I'd say Spoon's streak extends from A Series of Sneaks straight through to Transference. Maybe even They Want My Soul. That band just makes shit happen. They never fail to surprise me. I never got too heavily into They Want my Soul, but I have a feeling that once I revisit it, I'll love it and forget why I ever had doubts about it.

I have had a luke warm reaction to every Spoon album since Gimme Fiction. Thought, "huh? well this is nothing special" at first... then slowly succumbed to the album until I preferred it to those early classics.

evollove 01.14.2016 07:39 PM

Funny. REM, Talking and PIL occurred to me, and then it occurred to me that I was just listing favorite bands.

BTW, I really don't like 77, barring three or four songs. In my secret world I consider More Songs the first real album. But I'd include Speaking.

And I'd push the REM catalog much further.

Embarrassed I forgot about the Wire trilogy. The rapid growth of that band still makes my head spin.

The Soup Nazi 01.14.2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Embarrassed I forgot about the Wire trilogy.


Now I'm embarrassed that I forgot about:

Dinosaur Jr.
Dinosaur
You're Living All Over Me
Bug


Low
The Curtain Hits The Cast
Secret Name
Things We Lost In The Fire
Trust


Expand that all you want, peoples.

No Age
Weirdo Rippers
Nouns
Everything In Between
An Object


The Smiths
The Smiths
Meat Is Murder
The Queen Is Dead
Strangeways, Here We Come


Bill Callahan

Woke On A Whaleheart
Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle
Apocalypse
Dream River


And that's to say nothing about the, what, 12 albums as Smog? Damn!

Kraftwerk
Autobahn
Radio-Activity
Trans-Europe Express


Neu!
Neu!
Neu! 2
Neu! '75


Pere Ubu
The Modern Dance
Dub Housing
New Picnic Time


My Bloody Valentine
Isn't Anything
Loveless
m b v


Nirvana
Bleach
Nevermind
In Utero


John Cale
Paris 1919
Fear
Slow Dazzle
Helen Of Troy


Randy Newman
Randy Newman
12 Songs
Sail Away
Good Old Boys


Neil Young (Have we not mentioned Neil Young? What the fuck!)
Time Fades Away
On The Beach
Tonight's The Night


Mmmmm, the DOOM... Plenty more records could join his list, of course.

The Soup Nazi 01.14.2016 09:10 PM

Oh crap!

Nick Drake
Five Leaves Left
Bryter Layter
Pink Moon


Man, there's quite a bit of good stuff out there after all...
;)

Severian 01.15.2016 02:44 AM

I wonder what's up with No Age these days.

Mortte Jousimo 01.15.2016 05:56 AM

Some more:

Stooges:
Stooges
Fun House
Raw Power
Metallic K.O.

Can:
Soundtracks
Tago Mago
Ege Bamayasi
Future Days

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds:
From Her to Eternity
Firstborn is dead
Your Funeral
Tender Prey

Tom Waits:
Swordfish
Rain Dogs
Franks
Big Time

Dr. John:
Gris Gris
Babylon
Remedies
Sun, Moon & Herbs

Bauhaus:
in the Flatfield
Mask
Press the Eject
Sky´s Gone Out

Rob Instigator 01.15.2016 10:30 AM

Polvo
Cor-Crane Secret
Today's Active Lifestyles
Exploded Drawing
Shapes

Pavement
Westing by Musket & Sextant ( I COUNT IT! IT IS MY FAVE!!!!)
Slanted & Enchanted
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Wowee Zowee

Phish
Junta
Lawnboy
Picture of Nectar
Rift

Metallica
Kill Em All
Ride The Lightning
Master of Puppets
And Justice for All

evollove 01.15.2016 11:02 AM

XTC

Drums and Wires
Black Sea
English Settlement

Severian 01.15.2016 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Polvo

Pavement
Westing by Musket & Sextant ( I COUNT IT! IT IS MY FAVE!!!!)
Slanted & Enchanted
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Wowee Zowee


Of course you count it! You're a good man, and thorough. And it's a badass album straight through. Approve!

Quote:

Phish
Junta
Lawnboy
Picture of Nectar
Rift


Wait, you're a Phish fan? Thank the lord! I assumed (probably quite fairly) that I would be the only one on SYG.

Now, personally I loathe Picture of Nectar. To me it sounds like a Red Hot Chili Peppers record. Really, it just doesn't fit sonically with the rest of their canon.

But I agree with the rest. I haven't listened to them in ages, but I can't say I don't love the band when they're at their best.

Rob Instigator 01.15.2016 12:28 PM

I thought i was the only one too.....

I get snipers aimin at me when I pop out Phish (or TMBG also....)

LifeDistortion 01.15.2016 04:05 PM

Tori Amos

Little Earthquakes
Under the Pink
Boys For Pele
From the Choirgirl Hotel

Beastie Boys

License To Ill
Paul's Boutique
Check Your Head
Ill Communication

Radiohead

The Bends
Ok Computer
Kid A
Amnesiac

Drjohnrock 01.15.2016 10:05 PM

The Fall:

Dragnet
Grotesque
Slates
Hex Enduction Hour

Creedence Clearwater Revival:

Willie And The Poor Boys
Green River
Cosmo's Factory
Pendulum

Elvis Costello:

My Aim Is True
This Year's Model
Armed Forces
Get Happy!

The Cure:

Three Imaginary Boys/Boys Don't Cry
Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Pornogarphy

Severian 01.15.2016 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I thought i was the only one too.....

I get snipers aimin at me when I pop out Phish (or TMBG also....)


Sometimes even Phish fans throw shade my way when I confess that Round Room, the Siket Disc and Joy are some of my favorite records by the band.

But I'm not a "Phish Phan" ... I'm not a stereotypical fan. I steer clear of shows and I actually kind of steer clear of fans as well. But when they're hot they're hot, and I think "Rift" is one of the best tracks of the early '90s. That song has tremendous power.

Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2016 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drjohnrock
Creedence Clearwater Revival:

Willie And The Poor Boys
Green River
Cosmo's Factory
Pendulum

The Cure:

Three Imaginary Boys/Boys Don't Cry
Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Pornogarphy

YES! Creedence could of course be:
CCR
Bayou Country
Green River
Willie

few more:
Allman Brothers Band:
First
Idlewild South
Fillmore East
Eat a Peach

Ventures:
Ventures in Space
Fabulous Ventures
Walk Don´t run volume 2
The Ventures Knock Me out!

Hendrix:
Are You Experienced
Axis
Electric
Band Of Gypsys

Wigwam:
Fairyport
Being
Live Music From the Twilight Zone
Nuclear Nightclub

Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2016 01:02 PM

J.J. Cale:
Naturally
Really
Okie
Troubadour

Zappa/Mothers:
Freak Out!
Absolutely Free
Lumpy Gravy
We`re Only In It for the Money

How anyone not mentioned Reed:
Transformer
Berlin
Sally Can´t Dance
Metal Machine Music

Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2016 03:08 PM

Well, I don´t put Hendrix earlier cause I thought it was a kind of self-evident fact. Those four albums are the only ones released in his lifetime. Anyway all four are just dynamite!

LifeDistortion 01.16.2016 03:45 PM

Ramones

S/T
Leave Home
Rocket To Russia
Road to Ruin

Bytor Peltor 01.16.2016 04:26 PM

 

Mortte Jousimo 01.17.2016 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
CCR is a good one. they had like three four terrific albums in a row. got to have some now.

but the Wire trilogy is the most impressive I can think of. what band progressed that quickly that differently? like they were intuitively going in the same direction for a minute. then not and broke up. nothing mapped out or anything to improve. they just went there.

'secure you a concrete grave beneath the motorway".

Well, I think CCR-Pendulum are all terrific albums! Mardi Gras is poor, although Someday Never Comes, Sail Away, Door To Door & Sweet Hitch-hiker are great songs.

Mortte Jousimo 01.17.2016 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
Ramones

S/T
Leave Home
Rocket To Russia
Road to Ruin

Road to Ruin is not a bad album, but really not in a level of those first three excellent albums.

evollove 01.17.2016 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
 


What's this?

The Soup Nazi 01.17.2016 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
What's this?


I searched for the image on Google, then for the title on Discogs, and then on a Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds bootlegs-focused site. And I found zilch. And you know what? I loved it. First time in a while that I come across something the interwebs can't answer. Let the mystery be. :)

LifeDistortion 01.17.2016 07:54 PM

I don't disagree, Road To Ruin isn't flawless as those first three albums but with really the exception of one song its still a great enough album that to not count it seems petty. For I Wanna Be Sedated alone the album is a worthy listen.

The Soup Nazi 01.17.2016 08:14 PM

Predictably, this game has degenerated a bit, with some of y'alls posting crap by ENEMIES of ROCK & ROLL. But that's OK, as I still have awesome shit to mention.


 


Fairport Convention
What We Did On Our Holidays
Unhalfbricking
Liege And Lief
Full House

The four of them released within a year and a half, by the way. Unhalfbelievable.

Big Star
#1 Record
Radio City
Third/Sister Lovers


Cluster
Cluster [Cluster '71]
Cluster II
Zuckerzeit
Sowiesoso

Prince
Dirty Mind
Controversy
1999
Purple Rain


Another "slide the window if you want" case — all the way to Sign "☮" The Times, although as a whole Around The World In A Day is not as strong as the rest... Gotta give it another spin.

Sam Phillips
Fan Dance
A Boot And A Shoe
Don't Do Anything
Push Any Button


Technically, Cameras In The Sky goes between the last two (not to mention five EPs!), but what the hell, all sheer perfection.

Matthew Sweet
Girlfriend
Altered Beast
100% Fun


M. Ward
End Of Amnesia
Transfiguration Of Vincent
Transistor Radio

Judee Sill
Judee Sill
Heart Food
Dreams Come True
(It has to count, no? Damn right it has to.)

St. Vincent
Marry Me
Actor
Strange Mercy
St. Vincent

Mortte Jousimo 01.18.2016 02:24 AM

This just for you, you mothfucin Steely Dan fan:

Rush:
2112
a Farewell to Kings
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves

Nice:
the Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack
Ars Longa, Vita Brevis
Nice
Five Bridges

Janis Ian:
First
...For all the seasons of your mind
the Secret Life of J. Eddy Fink
Who Really Cares

ZZ Top:
Tres Hombres
Fandango!
Tejas
Deguello

Red Hot Chili Peppers:
First
Freaky Styley
Upfit Mofo Party Plan
Mother´s Milk

And I have to tell you Rush rocks much harder than those Bush-copies you are so much in love.

Mortte Jousimo 01.18.2016 02:31 AM

If you don´t believe, listen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjAlW4r9mAg

Mortte Jousimo 01.18.2016 03:11 AM

Björk:
Post
Homogenic
Vespertine
Medulla

Have to add these, because I think all those are at least decent albums. Vespertine & Medulla are only true great Björk albums.

greenlight 01.18.2016 11:28 AM

 


Rafael Anton Irisarri – A Fragile Geography (Room40)

"this is full of longing and aching beauty, the music that’s so overwrought with emotion it hurts to listen to but it’s so glorious you can’t help it, his humble drones build to static squalls and I lose my fucking mind."

Severian 01.18.2016 01:25 PM

 


This album never stops sounding amazing. Almost 5 years later, it still gives me chills from start to finish.

Severian 01.18.2016 09:23 PM

Still with the album listing?

Mortte Jousimo 01.19.2016 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper_green
I have to disagree with you Mortte. I flat out do not like Rush.

ZZ Top:
first album
Rio Grande
Tres Hombres
Fandango!

Yes, you can put Top albums also that way. First & Rio Grande are also really great albums, but the albums I most love are Tejas & Deguello, that´s the reason of my list. Maybe Fandango is the weakest one in those six (live side). And seventies Rush rules!

Mortte Jousimo 01.19.2016 12:20 AM

These are must:

the Band:
Music From Big Pink
the Band
Stage Fright
Cahoots

I have sometimes wondered am I the only Band-fan here? Because I think I am the only one who ever do mentions about them. Dylan is a hero to so many here, to me Band has always been much more important. Their second album is in the top20 of my alltime albums!

The Soup Nazi 01.19.2016 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
This just for you, you mothfucin Steely Dan fan:

Rush

Nice

Janis Ian

ZZ Top

Red Hot Chili Peppers:


First of all, I'm not a dedicated fan of Steely Dan; I just think Pretzel Logic is excellent. Second, with the possible exceptions of Janis Ian and ZZ Top, these selections are dismal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
I have sometimes wondered am I the only Band-fan here?

You are NOT. See this thread, you self-absorbed Finnish.

The Soup Nazi 01.19.2016 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Still with the album listing?


Yeah, this should belong in a different thread, but what the hell.

Buzzcocks (NOT "The" Buzzcocks, alright? Damn kids today...)
Spiral Scratch
Another Music In A Different Kitchen
Love Bites
A Different Kind Of Tension


Uncle Tupelo
No Depression
Still Feel Gone
March 16-20, 1992
Anodyne


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