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afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:31 PM

Recording method...
 
Which do you prefer to use when you are recording, digital or analog?

max 07.25.2006 08:40 PM

digital. cheap, versatile and tweakable to the limits. but analog is cool too - if you have the money to afford that.

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max
digital. cheap, versatile and tweakable to the limits. but analog is cool too - if you have the money to afford that.

I don't know how it is in Italy, but I find it cheaper to use analog, plus a lot easier...

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:41 PM

and there is a warmness on analog that you lose with digital

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:45 PM

wow, I've already posted 3 times in this thread...

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:46 PM

4...

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:46 PM

5...6

Cantankerous 07.25.2006 08:47 PM

analog

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 07.25.2006 08:47 PM

I perfer digital because you lose very little quality when recordign over the same track + you can fix it up quite nicely, I dont know if you would consider it digital or not but when my mic worked I miced (mice?) my guitar into a digital 4trak and left it that way.

One thing I notice is when recording digital sometimes your equipment picks up frequencies and you have to cleanup the sound.

acousticrock87 07.25.2006 08:50 PM

Depends on the music. Analog for acoustic/folk/blues, you know, gritty stuff. Digital for anything with heavier production and electronics, or when there's a lot of fancy guitar work. Anywhere there's a lot of effort put into the details.

Cantankerous 07.25.2006 08:51 PM

fuck heavy production. how do you think they did it in the old days when music was still good?

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:54 PM

all I know is that right now I am doing some stuff with this one guy, and he is an excelent musician, but he records everything with garage band, and like if your timing is of by even a millisecond, he can just click a button and align it perfectly to the beat... music isn't supposed to be perfect, because it's supposed to reflect the person making it, and nobody is perfect...

Daddylikes 07.25.2006 08:54 PM

they did heavy production using analog methods. See phil spector and the wall of sound.

Cantankerous 07.25.2006 08:55 PM

word. but it was different because they knew what the fuck they were doing and they didn't have a goddamn clap machine.

acousticrock87 07.25.2006 08:56 PM

Even with old stuff. Hendrix is better digital. Half of the Beatle's stuff (mostly Lennon's) is better digital. Bob Dylan is way better analog. That's just how I like it. Doesn't matter how they did it. Times are changin'. It ain't the 60's anymore. We got options.

Cantankerous 07.25.2006 08:57 PM

i hate digital.

afterthefact 07.25.2006 08:57 PM

happy 1000... :)

k-krack 07.25.2006 09:02 PM

i record on tape, because i dont have any other option.. i mean, the basement computer has a mic, but for somne reason sound recorder doesn;'t work, and you can't give a copy of sound recorder as easily (i could burn a cdbut that takes more work. plus, i have tons of tapes to use yet...) anyways, i love the sound of tape.. (any ideas as to why sound recorder would stop working? how i could fix it?)

terminal pharmacy 07.25.2006 09:03 PM

they both have their place, and digital is getting to the stage of analog warmth where you lose very little because of sample rates. sony have developed dsd which samples at 2.4mhz which is brilliant, where before things were at 192khz sample rate. 2.4mhz makes the divide grow smaller and smaller.

afterthefact 07.25.2006 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
i record on tape, because i dont have any other option.. i mean, the basement computer has a mic, but for somne reason sound recorder doesn;'t work, and you can't give a copy of sound recorder as easily (i could burn a cdbut that takes more work. plus, i have tons of tapes to use yet...) anyways, i love the sound of tape.. (any ideas as to why sound recorder would stop working? how i could fix it?)


wish I could help...
I used to record everything on tape, because that's all I had to work with... now all I have is a computer, and I will the old analog 4-track to death. Forget about how it just sounds better and everything, and it's still better, because doing it on computers is a pain in the ass. with tape, you hit record, play, hit stop, and you have a tape with your music on it. done and done.

Everyneurotic 07.25.2006 09:09 PM

analog if i were a millionaire, i prefer it. (multitrack that is, don't have a 4 track).
but i work on digital.

nomadicfollower 07.25.2006 09:09 PM

I prefer analog because it's all I know. I record into built in mic in a shitty 1994 radio/tape player.
Digital seems better and easier, though.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 07.25.2006 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i hate digital.


Then get the fuck off here!

afterthefact 07.25.2006 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
I prefer analog because it's all I know. I record into built in mic in a shitty 1994 radio/tape player.
Digital seems better and easier, though.

how does your setup sound?

nomadicfollower 07.25.2006 09:20 PM

Like shit.

afterthefact 07.25.2006 09:21 PM

ouch, sorry

nomadicfollower 07.25.2006 09:23 PM

I like it that way. Just wish I could do more then one track. That gets pretty annoying.
The other day I was trying to record a song, but I wanted a light fuzz in the background, so I had to turn on one amp and sit the cord on something metal (too keep a constant buzz going) and then play notes with my other guitar. Like I said, a pain.

afterthefact 07.25.2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
I like it that way. Just wish I could do more then one track. That gets pretty annoying.
The other day I was trying to record a song, but I wanted a light fuzz in the background, so I had to turn on one amp and sit the cord on something metal (too keep a constant buzz going) and then play notes with my other guitar. Like I said, a pain.

I can imagine. You can get a 4-track pretty cheap, between $100 and $150. I know, that's easier said than done, I can't afford that right now either...

nomadicfollower 07.25.2006 09:28 PM

I could afford one, probably. It's just not a top priority now.
And only having one track is making me strive harder to get a band together, that way we can record a song in one track.

afterthefact 07.25.2006 09:30 PM

yeah, it's such a pain in the ass to try to do everything yourself, even with a 4-track... it's so much easier when some of the work can be delgated

max 07.25.2006 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham
Then get the fuck off here!


Dude I owe you big. You got some rep coming. I was just about to post that. :cool:

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 07.25.2006 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max
Dude I owe you big. You got some rep coming. I was just about to post that. :cool:


fuck it, you can have some too.
your in a band, and its kool.

edit: shit, i have to spread some around first.

TheDom 07.25.2006 09:35 PM

If I record on my computer, it sounds like shit.

If I record on this tape player I have, it sounds like shit.

I'm thinking of not recording at all.

max 07.25.2006 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham
fuck it, you can have some too.
your in a band, and its kool.

edit: shit, i have to spread some around first.


damn dude, same here!!! that's lame! lemme find a CHOUT thread... :D

terminal pharmacy 07.25.2006 10:21 PM

lets not all forget that the sound will only be as good as

0. your instrument

1. your microphone / DI

2. the quality of the copper it travels down and also the quality of the plugs you have attached to the ends of the copper

3. the preamps of your desk / soundcard

4. your gain structure

5. your eq

6. your compression

with digital the better signal you get to track the less you have to use plugins.

golden child 07.25.2006 10:40 PM

my physical setup is all analog, then i record line in to audacity which is digital and do minimal editing, cutting out parts etc.

the cd i just finished had some tracks that were really crisp, harsh, digital sounding and i didnt like it so i transferred it onto tape from computer and then from tape back onto computer and it helped alot.

i dont fancy recording straight to tape much though cause its a pain to transfer to computer.

terminal pharmacy 07.25.2006 10:55 PM

audacity isn't very nice to the sound, there is something going on that really makes the high freqs stick out in a bad way

golden child 07.25.2006 10:56 PM

i know what your talking about, but i havent found a better program that runs on linux

terminal pharmacy 07.25.2006 11:00 PM

cool, that is the only prob with linux, the lack of sw for doing anything

nicfit 07.26.2006 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i hate digital.

yeah,right,that's why you're on an internet forum :P .
and,yessss,i am kidding,i know you were talking 'bout recordings.
i use digital,no money to afford a decent analog equipment,plus,i'm using pc software to do a big portion of my latest things,so tracks are already in a digital format,obviously.


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