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demonrail666 06.18.2007 01:31 PM

Writing greatness out of history
 
What are those bands that you felt made a great contribution to 'alternative' music but which seem to have been almost entirely written out of its history?

Loop spring immediately to mind as an example of a great band that now seem to have no recognition whatsoever beyond that of a few myspace enthusiasts and a couple of posters here.

sarramkrop 06.18.2007 01:39 PM

Joe Meek
Loop
Delia Derbyshire
Fela Kuti
I don't think George Clinton gets the amount of respect that he deserves
Dionne Warwick
The Shangri La's
Broadcast
Sensational

etc etc ect ect ect etc etc

demonrail666 06.18.2007 01:42 PM

Head of David are another band that seem to receive almost NO mention.

Danny Himself 06.18.2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I don't think George Clinton gets the amount of respect that he deserves


I thought he was revered enough..

sarramkrop 06.18.2007 01:52 PM

Not enough as he deserves. As a musician alone, it would be good if he was more influential.

Bicorn Halfelven 06.18.2007 01:52 PM

Radio Birdman
Suicide Commandos
The Fall
Glen Branca
Hellhammer

demonrail666 06.18.2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
I thought he was revered enough..


Totally. At the expence of practically any other funk musician. If there's onr guy that most definitely HASN'T been written out of musicazl history it's him.

demonrail666 06.18.2007 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicorn Halfelven
The Fall


I'm starting to think that my point has been well and truly missed.

sarramkrop 06.18.2007 01:58 PM

I don't see George Clinton being mentioned all the time as, say, Dinosaur Jr. That was my little stab at happiness, I suppose. The Fall? No way, if anything I skip anything that's written about them if I can, now. They have become the Aphex Twin of numerous mentions. Radio Birdman or The Scientists, I totally agree, but not The Fall.

Danny Himself 06.18.2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I don't see George Clinton being mentioned all the time as, say, Dinosaur Jr. That was my little stab at happiness, I suppose.


Maybe if this was a Bootsy Collins fanforum or even some sort of funk hangout you'd hear his name more- this forum is about 50% fuzz children. Oh, and nice Lee reference.

Pookie 06.18.2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Head of David are another band that seem to receive almost NO mention.


Then again, they were a pile of pants.

sarramkrop 06.18.2007 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
Maybe if this was a Bootsy Collins fanforum or even some sort of funk hangout you'd hear his name more- this forum is about 50% fuzz children. Oh, and nice Lee reference.


I forgot that 'black music' should know its place.

demonrail666 06.18.2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Then again, they were a pile of pants.


Hmm, now that I come to think about it...

Bicorn Halfelven 06.18.2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I'm starting to think that my point has been well and truly missed.


Ok, so maybe the Fall gets SOME recognition.

However, as influential as they have been to the history of "alternative" music, I would say that they warrant a bit more attention.

I don't think being on the cover of The Wire close to thirty years after the fact exactly constitutes fame and stardom.

I'm not even a fan of The Fall. I do see a lot of direct and indirect influence on "alternative" music from the 80's to the present that isn't generally recognized as something derived/inspired by Smith & company.

Danny Himself 06.18.2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I forgot that 'black music' should know its place.


I didn't mean it like that, and you know it.

In a forum that is over 75% white, almost 100% indie-bitch and about 50% below the age of 20, you couldn't expect to find many enthusiasts of classic funk, could you? You're way more likely to find fans of Dinosaur here, thats all I was saying.

demonrail666 06.18.2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicorn Halfelven
Ok, so maybe the Fall gets SOME recognition.

However, as influential as they have been to the history of "alternative" music, I would say that they warrant a bit more attention.


Sure, but being underrated is one thing, being written out of history quite another.

demonrail666 06.18.2007 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
I didn't mean it like that, and you know it.


Yes you did. Your posts recently are obviously fueled by your current BNP sympathies.

Glice 06.18.2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Joe Meek
Loop
Delia Derbyshire
Fela Kuti
I don't think George Clinton gets the amount of respect that he deserves
Dionne Warwick
The Shangri La's
Broadcast
Sensational

etc etc ect ect ect etc etc


Round here, I entirely agree with you. Luckily, in the real world, I know some actual people who listen to actual music that you can actually dance to.

Maybe Sensational and Delia I would agree with.

I'd like to add my ten pence of Urusei Yatsura, Stony Sleep and Prolapse. But that's probably more from my teenage years than anything else.

Rob Instigator 06.18.2007 03:00 PM

Tha Fall are HUGE an everyone admits it, just like the stooges, or theMC5 or the new york dolls.


OVERLOOKED bands, bands that I feel are overlooked as to their influence on the indie rock, are

someone already said radio birdman
SEAM
Pylon

demonrail666 06.18.2007 03:09 PM

The Triffids. I was going to say the Go-Betweens, but everyone KNOWS they've been ignored so it sort of defeats the point. They're FAMOUS for being unknown.


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