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noisereductions 04.23.2013 06:43 PM

'ever since the face got revealed the game got mad real'

Nah, I'm with you Sev. This album is a high point of his entire career.

BTW, I feel like an idiot but apparently missed the Portishead sample. And I love Portishead. Tell me it's on "Unexpected Call" which is currently my favorite track.

noisereductions 04.23.2013 07:35 PM

holy shit - The Brown Tape is gonna drop soon. Fully remixed version of Twelve Reasons! Good year to be a Ghostface fan for real!

louder 04.24.2013 06:10 AM

^^^

stream it here: http://hiphopwired.com/2013/04/23/gh...stream-listen/

 

louder 04.24.2013 06:25 AM

12 Reasons gets better with each listen for me. i love how it's 40 mins (just like Illmatic :o), my ideal rap album length.

here's a great review of the album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJEvrZHcEMY

louder 04.24.2013 06:32 AM

oh shit, this album goes so fucking hard. Ghost spitting raw over those fucking giallo film samples. :cool: the only thing that drags it down is some of the guest features. but whatever. fantastic album. i think i'm just gonna chill and play it over and over again all day.

noisereductions 04.24.2013 07:32 AM

I'm with you on shorter albums. I don't like albums that drag on too long.

Also you guys keep mentioning samples. I thought it was all Adrian Younge's band playing this shiz live. No?

louder 04.24.2013 07:54 AM

oh yeah, the whole thing was live instrumentation. sorry i actually knew that but i just woke up when i made that post. :o the album's sound was definitely influenced by Ennio Morricone and Portishead though.

noisereductions 04.24.2013 07:59 AM

I'd say Morricone, Les Baxter, and Goblin (the Italian band, not Tyler :))

louder 04.24.2013 09:40 AM

new Lord Quas song is too dope. y'all need to give it a listen: http://soundcloud.com/stonesthrow/qu...planned-attack

noisereductions 04.24.2013 03:08 PM

love Madlib, but was never crazy for the Quas project personally.

Severian 04.24.2013 06:14 PM

I think I botched that Portishead sample reference. I read they were sampled on the album (not uncommon) but it wasn't the part I was thinking of. I was thinking of a drum part in "The Sure Shot," but further listening has proved that to be an incorrect assumption.


EDIT: I am an idiot. Thanks louder.

Severian 04.24.2013 06:27 PM

Damn.

Yeah, I posted before I read before I thought.

It's apparently live instrumentation. Louder wins.

Bad on me. I suck. It's that much more excellent if that's true. Holy shit. I'm listening to it right now and I still can't believe it.

I think the influence definitely comes from Dario Argento collaborations with Morricone and Goblin. Some of those soundtracks are well worth owning, especially Suspiria.

GFK's got some motherfuckin' taste.

noisereductions 04.24.2013 07:41 PM

I win. I said live instruments first. ;)

Yeah my wife is a big horror score collector. She's got lots of Morricone and Goblin shit - mostly from Argento films as it happens. That Goblin shit is unreal.

I threw in Les Baxter MOSTLY due to his incredible score for The Dunwich Horror. Youtube the theme. Mindblowing.

louder 04.25.2013 10:58 AM

NR wins indeed.

i'll check out the Suspiria soundtrack. seems super interesting.

louder 04.28.2013 05:59 AM

Tyler stepped up his production and moved on from rapping about rape and shocking things for the sake of shock value, but i still feel like he's stuck in a zone which kinda prevents him from being the great artist he COULD be.

Wolf is a good album though, don't get it twisted.. shit like "48", "Bimmer" and "IFHY" is some of the best material i've ever heard from him. but it's also all over the place and has too many songs which i feel shouldn't have been there.. his verse on "Rusty" was more than enough to cover the complaints about the criticism he gets, and for fuck's sake, leave that subject alone for the rest of the album. "Colossus" is borderline narcissistic and just unbearable to me, etc.

while Tyler knows he's the shit, i could barely find any moments of positivity in this album. i actually found it depressing, in the same way as Rihanna's latest album "Unapologetic". famous people who can't leave their pseudo-drama behind. :rolleyes:

Bastard still remains his definitive statement, at least until he learns how to reinvent himself.

Severian 04.28.2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
NR wins indeed.

i'll check out the Suspiria soundtrack. seems super interesting.



Great fucking movie too. That would be an all time top ten film for me.

louder 04.29.2013 03:32 AM

new Chance the Rapper tape dropping tomorrow.

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Severian 04.29.2013 06:32 AM

I agree about Wolf, and it really bums me out to admit that. I find the album to be lacking, despite being awesome. Soundwise it feels like a lateral move; there is nothing about the album that makes it feel like a progression lyrically, or even in terms of production.

That doesn't mean it's not a great record, but I've been waiting for this album for a long time, and it's not the game changer I expected. Tyler has a ways to go before he can be compared to Rza (or Gza, as one reviewer suggests, which is absolutely ludicrous).

No hate for OF though. This is a great album. It just isn't a masterpiece of any kind, and Bastard owns it.

louder 04.29.2013 08:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntcbAlGB3p8

hahaha i'm wondering how Kanye is going to react to this.

noisereductions 04.29.2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
I agree about Wolf, and it really bums me out to admit that. I find the album to be lacking, despite being awesome. Soundwise it feels like a lateral move; there is nothing about the album that makes it feel like a progression lyrically, or even in terms of production.

That doesn't mean it's not a great record, but I've been waiting for this album for a long time, and it's not the game changer I expected. Tyler has a ways to go before he can be compared to Rza (or Gza, as one reviewer suggests, which is absolutely ludicrous).

No hate for OF though. This is a great album. It just isn't a masterpiece of any kind, and Bastard owns it.


nailed it.


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