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!@#$%! 02.03.2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I read the article......never would have considered Bob "pop," but having a songs featured in a movies and commercials will have that effect!


ha ha ha

too true

guest 02.04.2015 09:07 AM

in the pop sphere mimi is on a whole other level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibSqyhtUb0

Bytor Peltor 02.04.2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 



Speaking of, we haven't heard word one since those guys Walked 500 Miles......

demonrail666 02.04.2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Nope. Nakata is a fucking genius. and now you got me started!!!

(perfume)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoWoWiqI3aM
Daijyobanai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhI2mp-WIck
Magic of Love(single version. the album version has an awful intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th8H34qOk30
Secret Secret

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3jWsARsX4
Twinkle Snow Powdery Snow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCjcmOR1lT4
Point





Not that up on J Pop but I do love Perfume. I Heard Glitter first, a few months ago, and I've been hooked since. Love them. Would also add 1mm to their list although Glitter's still the one for me.

guest 02.04.2015 10:38 PM

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcQP1HXN_w

DJ DJ DJ DJ DJ DJ
SLOW IT DOWN FOR AN EPIC BJ

EVOLghost 02.08.2015 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Not that up on J Pop but I do love Perfume. I Heard Glitter first, a few months ago, and I've been hooked since. Love them. Would also add 1mm to their list although Glitter's still the one for me.


Listen to that shit...on WAX
 


ahh yes 1mm! how can I forget that! If you dig perfume maybe you should check out Nakata's other projects?

Perfume will be at Austin City Limits this year and it kills me knowing I can't go...






perfume!!

 

diskaholic-anonymous 02.08.2015 11:03 AM

pop music it's boring...mainstream or "alternative" sounds always boring...!

evollove 02.08.2015 01:07 PM

Scientists figured out the catchiest songs of all time, apparently.

http://www.cnet.com/news/the-top-10-...ng-to-science/

I'm surprised "Kill Yr Idols" was number 4.

Bytor Peltor 02.09.2015 10:03 AM

Beck - Morning Phase, won album of the year during last nights Grammy's.

 


Beck and Chris Martin of Coldplay performed together......somewhere Jim O'Rourke is smiling


Besides their amazing performance, I also enjoyed:

Annie Lennox......sings by herself towards end.

Electric Light Orchestra

Ed Sheridan, Herrbie Hancock, John Mayer and the drummer from, The Roots were pretty amazing as well......John Mayer was channeling, Buddy Holly

Blood_Promise 02.09.2015 01:00 PM

Really glad that Beck won that Grammy.

EVOLghost 02.09.2015 03:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSqo9C5ClDg


for demonrail666

guest 02.10.2015 07:40 AM

evol that's soooooo good, bizarre to think about how far ahead japanese pop is.

 

we belong together, say somethin, it's like that, shake it off, get your number....best singles pop record I've ever heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIUZplB6z_8

 

new(ish) GFOTY mix. nu pointillist pop at its absolute apex. + peter andre
https://soundcloud.com/pcmus/gfoty-cake-mix

EVOLghost 02.10.2015 05:40 PM

finna be rocking this one all night now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoaeIFcbR5U

EVOLghost 02.10.2015 06:04 PM

Ahh how can I forget this one too? Nakata produced this one too for Shiina Ringo....and it's really...really good. unfortunately it's not the full song and they took off the full song off Youtube....and well...this video was taken off too! It's unlisted...but fortunately I saved the link!!


http://youtu.be/o16rgGTZq9s

louder 02.11.2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by guest
evol that's soooooo good, bizarre to think about how far ahead japanese pop is.

we belong together, say somethin, it's like that, shake it off, get your number....best singles pop record I've ever heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIUZplB6z_8

great "comeback" album but i'd say she had a bunch of better albums in the 90s.

rebeccagotcursedout 02.12.2015 06:41 PM

i don't know what's worse. discussing what the definition of what pop music is or the argument of rockist vs. popist. which seems to be the product of pitchfork and ultra post ironic writers these days before, after and beyond.

the fact is...it doesn't matter. even if yr willing to study any or all other genres as the same in one or whether as an participant or a witness to whats commonly enjoyable to the masses.

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 06:55 PM

Not enough hours in the day for me to listen to vapid flavor of the month top 40 crap just to prove I'm not an elitist music snob.
I own my elitism and I am not ashamed of it.

rebeccagotcursedout 02.12.2015 06:58 PM

the Beyonce album was good and excellant. but the fact is, Beck's album was choosing by his peers. or they say.

what's revolutionary and new and what's not shouldn't matter in this time and age.

an old man sitting on a stool playing blues or someone shitting into a mic shouldn't have to compete with mind blowing productions on an R@B album. it's all about popular opinions

it's all the same. kinda ironic since that's what beck was trying to say over a decade ago, and im not much of a Beck fan anyway.

rebeccagotcursedout 02.12.2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Not enough hours in the day for me to listen to vapid flavor of the month top 40 crap just to prove I'm not an elitist music snob.
I own my elitism and I am not ashamed of it.


i know what yr saying and maybe im contridicting myself.

do others don't invest much into some songs or mainstream music, listening wise, than others would with their favored offed genres?

are there just exceptions to the rule? like those late beatles records? or the new beyonce record, or mainstream hip hop or classic new wave records? which are slim and far inbetween and everything else is just shit?

if that's so, then yr right?

i think what matters is....is that once in awhile there is a pop record that comes along that introduces their audience to something that they dont normally hear with their peers or on the radio. not just in sound because today that's pretty easy with the technology, but something with aesthetics.

that's maybe avant pop and that is truly revolutionary.

rebeccagotcursedout 02.12.2015 07:53 PM

but then again, the upcoming generation might not give a fuck about all that. what's the real concern is the masses as monkeys like they are now but even worse.

popism vs aestheticism. i like that better

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.12.2015 08:27 PM

rebeccagotcursedout..

I don't know who you are but I like your posts yo!

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 10:23 PM

Sure, when one ignores or avoids mainstream pop music there is always the danger of missing a rare gem, but the rate of return on those gems is so slim that I prefer to take my slimmer and slimmer listening hours to places where my particular tastes have a better chance of being rewarded. I can step out of my comfort zone and still get nowhere near the mainstream. Osmosis tells me I am doing the right thing over 99% of the time. I don't really need to dig deeper into areas with so little potential when there are so many other more rewarding or interesting rabbit holes in the world.

!@#$%! 02.12.2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccagotcursedout

popism vs aestheticism. i like that better


yes. you hit the nail right on the head

that's the old lowbrow/highbrow distinction-- which keeps getting cancelled but always keeps returning anyway


Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Sure, when one ignores or avoids mainstream pop music there is always the danger of missing a rare gem, but the rate of return on those gems is so slim that I prefer to take my slimmer and slimmer listening hours to places where my particular tastes have a better chance of being rewarded. I can step out of my comfort zone and still get nowhere near the mainstream. Osmosis tells me I am doing the right thing over 99% of the time. I don't really need to dig deeper into areas with so little potential when there are so many other more rewarding or interesting rabbit holes in the world.


it's true that it's good to stop wasting time & instead go deeper as life becomes shorter

but where would you be without devo?

i bet you heard them on the radio

(that same transaction is happening to a 12 year old right now)

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 10:52 PM

Devo are one of the only "truly original" bands to ever exist, and they came up in a different time. A band that weird would never get mainstream radio play today. One of the rarest of rare exceptions. One of the other groups I can think of as being that original is Throbbing Gristle, operating at exactly the same time and exerting a similarly huge influence on the musical landscape in subsequent decades. Both are a far cry from today's tasteless vocal gymnasts making faceless producers rich with saccharine "soulful" vocal runs over smooth aural diarrhea, and you know the radio wouldn't have played TG even if you threatened them with a tank at their door.

And I didn't hear Devo on the radio.


I saw them on Square Pegs, with a teenage Sarah Jessica Parker.

!@#$%! 02.12.2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Devo are one of the only "truly original" bands to ever exist, and they came up in a different time. A band that weird would never get mainstream radio play today. One of the rarest of rare exceptions. One of the other groups I can think of as being that original is Throbbing Gristle, operating at exactly the same time and exerting a similarly huge influence on the musical landscape in subsequent decades. Both are a far cry from today's tasteless vocal gymnasts making faceless producers rich with saccharine "soulful" vocal runs over smooth aural diarrhea, and you know the radio wouldn't have played TG even if you threatened them with a tank at their door.

And I didn't hear Devo on the radio.


I saw them on Square Pegs, with a teenage Sarah Jessica Parker.


do you know her in person?

 


i don't know what is square pegs (sorry, not american) (i feel without googling this might be some children's tv show?) (just a guess)

i saw devo on a government-run channel. we had military dictators!

ANYWAY -- there is a devo out there right now but you can't know it

to find out what it is you'll have to ask a professional musician 40 years from now

then they'll say "oh, it was..."

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 10:58 PM

(Not to mention that Devo were all art school kids, and the public and record labels nearly always missed the satirical or subversive parts of their mission)

!@#$%! 02.12.2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
(Not to mention that Devo were all art school kids, and the public and record labels nearly always missed the satirical or subversive parts of their mission)


but they nearly always do

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
do you know her in person?

 


i don't know what is square pegs (sorry, not american) (i feel without googling this might be some children's tv show?) (just a guess)

i saw devo on a government-run channel. we had military dictators!

ANYWAY -- there is a devo out there right now but you can't know it

to find out what it is you'll have to ask a professional musician 40 years from now

then they'll say "oh, it was..."




It was a sitcom she was on as a youngster. I was 12. It was 1982.

!@#$%! 02.12.2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
It was a sitcom she was on as a youngster. I was 12. It was 1982.


see?

we just have to wait for those 12 year olds to grow up

they'll find a way

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
but they nearly always do



Yeah. Which is why I maintain that though they were a Pop Sensation, Devo were still ""art rock," and their pop success was a fluke and very much "of its time."

!@#$%! 02.12.2015 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Yeah. Which is why I maintain that though they were a Pop Sensation, Devo were still ""art rock," and their pop success was a fluke and very much "of its time."


history is a continuous loop

or to quote "true detective"

fuck, i don't remember the quote ha ha

sorry. something about a flat disc or something.

but anyway, it happens continuously, is my point.

schizophrenicroom 02.12.2015 11:06 PM

time is a flat circle. ahah. i don't think there's a truly great pop group out there. there is some fantastic pop like charli xcx and such. there isn't really a group like talking heads or devo unafraid to make genuinely weird pop.

Savage Clone 02.12.2015 11:08 PM

Well, point made in that case.
I guess the point I am making is that Beyonce is no Devo.
And let's face it, the radio has never been more of a soulless wasteland controlled by algorithms and ad revenue metrics than at present.

(To symbol man)

!@#$%! 02.12.2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Well, point made in that case.
I guess the point I am making is that Beyonce is no Devo.
And let's face it, the radio has never been more of a soulless wasteland controlled by algorithms and ad revenue metrics than at present.

(To symbol man)


well yes the radio is no longer what it was

now it's people's phones or something else-- works a different way

i don't know enough about beyonce's music

i know she's a spectacular incarnation of ineffable things

but i just don't listen to her because i'm not interested

but somewhere out there there is something making cracks under the ground and we just can't hear it but some 12 year old does

just wait a little.

they'll pick up the thread.

Bytor Peltor 02.14.2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Beck - Morning Phase, won album of the year during last nights Grammy's.



Beck

Wrote, produced and arranged all 13 songs......played 16 different instruments.

Beyonce

Wrote zero songs, produced ??? and doesn't play one instrument.

 


 

louder 02.14.2015 08:53 AM

well, Beck plays instruments etc but that doesn't necessarily make his album better.

here's my opinion, from the hip-hop café thread:

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Originally Posted by louder
Beyoncé is more than a manufactured pop star. she actually recorded 80 songs for her album. and it wasn't only her ambition and perfectionism that were a part of what made that album great, but also her artistic vision. it's Beyoncé who wanted Rocket to sound like a D'Angelo song, ***Flawless to be Houston-rap inspired. and i really like the content of the album as well. there are songs which reveal the "darker" side of her relationship with Jay, as well as female empowerment, dealing with today's beauty standards, etc. not to mention she's a great singer. it's the best female pop album in years if you ask me, and i definitely don't mind it being declared the "album of the year".

Bey's album is a lot more interesting than Beck's in my opinion. his album was pretty much a watered down version of Sea Change.. but it's all about timing i guess.


Bytor Peltor 02.14.2015 09:03 AM

First off, this is a category I care little about. However, over the years, it's been interesting when a "out of nowhere" nominee won.

Beyonce is doing nothing different than Madonna and several others have done over the years......surround yourself with all the right people and make it happen. I have no clue how the Grammy committee makes it's selections, I'm just happy someone like Beck was able to win.

EVOLghost 02.17.2015 08:42 PM

yo forreal tho....why this shit gotta be so good.

it's just so fucking catchy.


capsule-love me

guest 02.22.2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
great "comeback" album but i'd say she had a bunch of better albums in the 90s.

I like that this one isn't padded out with those absurd ballads, at least until the end, and even then the production doesn't come across as dated as it once did. I had never paid her any attention (nor any pop to a deeper extent) until my ex made me watch glitter with her and it was just banga after banga. there's something about her late 90s/early 2000s stuff where the songs were so ingeniously simple, something like honey or heartbreaker where it's a minimal loop and her sampled voice intermingling with the main melody. especially something like the latter where the song comes across as a total fucking mess, too many sections and unrelated melodies until they all come together and resolve simultaneously atop one another.

plus her voice is just fucking sweet.

demonrail666 02.23.2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
 


Perfect!


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