that outro is everything.

getting my hopes up about that album now.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...etter-with-age

Thought this might interest you guys here. No mention of Ghostface oddly enough though.

Some people always make their verses count. I can't claim to fully "get" Theophilius London, but even on that weirdass mofo's album, Kanye contributes the kind of show stealing verse that might as well be a mating call announcing the coming of Yeezy season to his fans.

Srsly, I've been yowling and flopping around on the floor and sticking my ass in the faces of other Yeezy fans since I heard it.

(Too much?)

just heard the singles.. fucking fire yo. need this ASAP!

unfortunately i disagree. most rappers seem to become uninspired, stale and.. simply uncool as they get older, just like aging rock stars. of course there are a few exceptions though.

agreed.

There are of course exceptions, but generally as a genre there seems to be a majority of rappers who are more creative, more willing to take chances, and just try harder when they're younger.

Some exceptions that come to mind, tho...


Ghostface, of course. I pretty much feel like his career has been nothing but an up-swing for the last decade.

MF Doom is a dude who got better w/ age. I mean I like KMD and all, but after coming out of hiding DOOM got better and far more creative.

Jay-Z... his debut aside, I honestly feel like the 2nd half of his career is far more interesting than the first. Or put it this way, I think if all 3 volumes of Lifetime, Street Is Watching sndrk and the Roc-La-Familia album never existed, and he came out in 2001 w/ The Blueprint as his first album, I'd have been fine w/ that.

Sean Price: (see MF DOOM above)

Wayne is an interesting case.. dude's start wasn't spectacular, he was pretty generic back then. but after a few years he started getting insanely good, got to a point where he peaked with his creativity and technical skill, then degressed. but still, if you compare Wayne as we all know him today to his debut, it's like two different people.

fun fact: Eminem and Snoop Dogg don't even remember recording their debuts because they were too drugged out. so perhaps one could argue it wasn't even them. they both had Dr. Dre's guidance though.

drugs seem to have been a big influence on Em in general. back then he was quite the character, right? now he's extremely reserved.. when i saw him on TV when he promoted MMLP2 he seemed really anxious. poor guy.

But even Carter 2 era Wayne was still young.

true. and he's still way younger than Jay/Nas/Ghost/etc. it's easy to forget cuz he's basically been around forever haha.

Wayne just dropped the first remix off Sorry 4 the Wait 2, he disses Cash Money on the song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7m5NlfQKjew

this is heat. this feud might turn out to be the best thing that happened to him in recent years.

And of course Kanye... 10 years in and he's still riding a peak that never ended.

I guess 808's was considered a "hiccup" in that peak for many listeners at the time of its release, but it didn't take long for an entire sub-genre of hip-hop (Drake, Future, Travi$ Scott) to emerge out of that single album's style.

I'd also say that Jay-Z has grown better with age. His worst records since coming out of retirement have been better than most of the albums that give birth to Stars these days. He's unstoppable.

Sooooo...

I have this now:


Been listening for a minute.
Real talk: the only thing I'm not digging is the cover. I think some of the fan variants and WEIRDASS alternate versions that pop up in spades when you search google images (while this comes up, like, twice) are way more iconic.

This looks like a mixtape cover, and mixtape covers suck.

But I'll he fucked if it's not BETTER than I expected.
NR you're going to flip your shit!

Also, I like the fact that Joey Bada$$, A$AP, and Underachievers all seem to have mad love for each other's music. WHAT AN EPIC FUCKING TOUR
LINEUP THAT WOULD MAKE!!

Anyway, totally best hip hop albim of the year so far (hah!)... But oddly I think it's chances of remaining in the top tier are fairly high. This is a future classic.

FINALLY, Joey Bada$$ breaks out of the hip hop purgatory known as mixtape-only land. (Or something more clever)

What the..? No jealousy? No Envy?

I know it's only few days before the official release, but I've been foaming at the mouth for this thing since Sunmer Knights & Indigoism blew me the fuck away and I started foaming at the mouth for major label releases from these and other "Beast Coast" representatives.

This is huge, guys! And the record fucking legitimately slays to boot.

^^^ yeah Joey's debut is fire. i expected a good album but i didn't expect it to be better than "1999"! HOLY SHIT!!

and i agree that the cover art is wack.

I'll be listening to this on Tues when it drops on Spotify. I really am excited. I thought Summer Knights was great.

you have all the reasons to be excited. this album is gonna be on repeat for a while.

Wayne's "Sorry for the Wait 2" trailer & snippet: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mV-YRl3c6cg




honestly sounds beautiful.. coming Tuesday. wow i can't wait!

the download will be available here: http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes...he-wait-2.html

Awesome!

I'm sorry but I don't buy that the delays have all been CashMoney's fault. Wayne made promise after promise, and he did it on his own. If the label was being so weird, why did he act like the V was going to drop any minute for the entire year?

Regarding Sorry 4 Tha Wait 2... Hey, great that a new mixtape's coming out. But couldn't he have made better use of that time by spending it on... I don't know... The album that fewer and fewer people are waiting for?

I'm sure it will be pretty good, but I'm not even sure I care about CV anymore.

I think i am more excited for the mixtape at this point.

i don't remember a single Wayne album that came out when it was originally meant to. his projects always get pushed back to generate some buzz.

A$AP Yams (their founder, director as well as the one who picked all the instrumentals on Live.Love.A$AP) has died. :( RIP.

i'm wondering how this is gonna affect the future of their careers, especially Rocky's..

So sad :(

Sad when anyone dies, and I am definitely bummed, but he seemed like kind of a sleazy back alley business motherfucker. I highly doubt he's chillin under a halo. Still, he was a person, and I am a definite fan of Rocky's, even if the rest have yet to win me over.

Hopefully it doesn't impact anything regarding their careers. They're very close to being adults at this point... At least in age... Rocky should be more of a veteran, capable of mentoring his own 20-year old cash cows.

No disrespect. I'm sad that he's passed, and I hope it was quick and painless.

I don't know a lot about the crew's history. My introduction to "A$AP" was "Live Love" ... I didn't even know there was an actual "mob" of mothetfuckers named A$AP until Ferg broke. I worry about young kids who end up making money for fat guys in sweaters like the one Yams wearing in that pic.

I feel bad for saying that, but it happens a lot. Not just in entertainment or sports or gangs, but in corporate offices and fucking Fortune 500 companies.

Anyway, they'll carry on.

Oh, I totally fucking forgot...
Has anyone else heard Tetsuo & Youth yet?

Because DAMN.


Having never been a true Lupe fan (I like him, don't dislike him, but generally feel that the universe doesn't need him because, all things being equal, he's basically like the imperfect missing link between Talib Kweli and Kanye West; born with neither the lyrical nor the musical/production skills to survive. Actually more like a little brother to those two, who keeps trying to wear both of their clothes and not pulling it off.

But it's a fucking good record! Shit!
“Mural” is going to be a hard pill to swallow for critics of his "nonmusical" style. I think it's kind of a fucking home run! Hopefully this will be a comeback, or if nothing else, a cult hit that alienates the shallower parts of his audience. It's less accessible, which is almost always an awesome thing for big rap icons.

(I like this, whatever it is. Won't have an actual hard copy til Tues., so I'm not sure whether this is official or fanart, but it's prbably not official. Too cool to be.)

Ok, please forgive me for my lack of knowledge about modern druggy beverages popular among urban millennials, but what's the purple shit in Yams cup up there?

Is that uhhh... Sizzurp? Or Purrp? Or some kind of Xanax smoothie? I know I know this one... It's in my brain sonewhere, but the context clues are mostly in the form of Rocky lyrics and my own dated knowledge of what the kiddies used to drink when they were feeling normal.

well he was basically the creative mind behind A$AP's whole aesthetic.

EDIT: oh yeah, it's the purple drank, also known as Sizzurp. i don't think he was an angel.. just posted that pic cuz i saw it somewhere and reckoned some of you might find his face more familiar than his name.

like i always say i love Lupe's first two albums, and his verse on "Touch the Sky" is one of the best. but i have a feeling like this album is gonna be hard to digest.. i mean, 8-9 min songs consisted of nonstop rapping? kinda weird. i'll give it a shot though.

just watched the video for Old English and wow it's great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OpdjbzTIhM

if you don't know it's a track that features Young Thug, Freddie Gibbs and A$AP Ferg who was absolutely the standout here. it serves as the 1st single for Nas' new label compilation.

"SHE HAS TO TRAP IN THE BANDO, CUZ HER MOMMA GOT CANCER". :eek:

yo, i just found out Aaliyah loved Korn and Nine Inch Nails.. dope.

1. Yeah, I've read through the Twitter comments from fellow artists and industry folks... I was speaking too soon (or way too late, if you prefer) and I apologize for being something of a stereotyping cunt.

Seems like he was close to a RZA figure than he was to, say, ah... That fat Floridian paedo who "groomed" the Backstreet Boys and *N'Sync and Brittany.

Sorry.

Why so much Aaliyah chat lately?

It's excellent. Yeah, rapping for long periods over the same instrumental can be a bit exhausting, but "3030" & "Triumph" have proven that it can also be absolutely badass.

"Mural" is one of the 8 min.+ tunes and it's great. I think this may be something like Lupe's defining statement. May be too early to say if it's his MBDTF, but it's certainly an intriguing album, with a singular feel. I love the cover art. I can't stop listening. Give it a listen louder.

I think my fav long raps would be the "intro" etc on Carter II. Whooo. Unreal.

and if we're counting crews, "Oldie" is amazing. And "Protect Ya Neck" of course. And "1Train," OMG.

her birthday was a few days ago.

when it comes to Aaliyah i think her music was good (solid albums, CLASSIC singles) but it was rather her spirit and image that made her so influential. i reckon if Britney died at her peak when she was still very young she would've been glorified the same way as Aaliyah.

1Train is an example for a song i could play over and over again and never get tired of. i think the biggest issue i have with the song lengths on Tetsuo & Youth is that Lupe is the one rapping on them.

the official cover art for S4TW2: