I have been having trouble finding new good music, honestly. And I do think the board activity around discussing weird and awesome shit has diminished a lot. Just since I've been here. So I get it, and it is frustrating.

But it's not this thread's fault. And surely we all like weirdass music. I have Ashtray Navigations playing as I type, and earlier today I played the most recent People Skills album. Not that that stuff is that weird, but it's closer to what you're talking about. That music is still of interest to me, but I've been having a really hard time finding anything new that is in that vein. Anything new at all, really, outside of electronic music.

Anyway, we all like that stuff, but we can still shoot the shit about the lame music. Which, if you think about it, is actually pretty weird in itself. It's weird that I love Bette Davis Eyes. Weirder than my loving Wolf Eyes. :)

Maybe we should make a more concerted effort to trade ideas and expose one another to new things. I'd be all for that. But most people don't even come here with any regularity anymore. So.. I dunno.

ETA: I was referring to the Blackest Ever Black PEOPLE SKILLS. There's another band by the same name that sounds like absolutely nothing. Don't be tricked by streaming services into thinking they're the same. Ick.

In general I feel like there's discussion here. That's why I came up with a more random topic here. I was just trying to get some discourse going. In a way I succeeded actually.

And I'm all for talking about weird shit too. Even if I've been in a phase of listening to more mainstream thjngs lately doesn't mean I don't appreciate other stuff.

Shit I spent two years talking about jazz albums and most fell on deaf ears. But I'm just gonna talk about what I am listening to at the moment and encourage everyone to do the same. More talk is better than less yeah?

It's not a situation I ever find myself in. I live with my ex an he has almost 100% terrible taste in music, and by terrible I mean he will listen exclusively to Ed Sheeran, Rag 'n' Bone Man, Coldplay and bollocks like that. Being both Italians we occasionally agree on some songs from the motherland for spontaneous singalongs but even then he has a taste for the very worst around. It means that when I play music for my own pleasure I am normally by myself in the house or it's from internet radio stations where they are likely to play music I am into.

You have never been in like a store or public transportation or other person's house or any situation where you might hear a radio?

i know, right?

it's like they stay in the house all day :D

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eta: i have to bring headphones to the walmart now. they've started piping crap out of the speakers. even at 7am.

I hate that. Department stores are even worse. They seem to exclusively play uber melancholy songs about ruined relationships that make you question your life decisions. Even though the songs are shit, you spend enough time looking at yourself in the mirror and trying on clothes for a fucking wedding you'll likely attend by yourself, and eventually you're going to want to swallow a bullet eventually.

man, i hate weddings

who goes to weddings?

i just excuse myself and don't go

right?

(i think i'm doing the right thing)

I'm seriously bad at ''listening'' to music in places that are not either my house or a gig. No kidding.

I wish i could be like you. My problem is fhe impossibilkty of shutting it down. I can't un-hear things. The frequent result is much rage.

The only other time I listen to music properly is when I'm cycling. I normally have a very limited playlist that I put on shuffle and keep it the same for weeks. I've only changed it yesterday because I was sick of listening to the same songs every day. Today I went for a long ride and my new playlist was mostly Bardo Pond's ''Shone Like a Ton'', which I decided to upload as a full album on my mp3 player and overshadowed all the songs by the other bands. I had to stop a few times when ''Luna Sway'' came on because it's one of those tracks that gets looser and more brilliant as it goes so it makes it difficult to concentrate on the road.

ha! that's totally your desperado song

let's play it...

ps- it's fucking great! downloading the whole album. thanks!!

I usually beg off, but sometimes I just have to. Close friends, co-workers. Everyone is getting fucking married. (I shouldn't say "everyone," because really it's just a ton of folks who are 10+ years younger than I am; not really my generational peers... THOSE fuckers got married years ago!) Anyway, it wasn't as horrendous with the gf, but I went to one alone a few weeks back and oh my god, so dumb. Not gonna lie, I popped a few anxiety meds and tried to glide through the evening before sneaking out the back during "YMCA."

When you work in an office with 7-8 people, and you spend 8-12 hours a day with them, it's really hard to find a way out of such things without being "the asshole."

Nah, that song is way too objectively and unequivocally awesome to be a "Desperado" song. Nobody would think, "What is this guy's problem?" for loving that song. Liking that song just make you look cool. It is a great song, and the guitar around 2:30 makes my heart light up.

NEW CRITERIA!!!

In order for a song to be a "Desperado" song, it needs to elicit incredulous looks and responses like "what the fuck is wrong with this guy" if you zone out to it in the company of the average person.

In that respect, I think very few of the songs mentioned are true "Desperado" songs as observed in the hilarious and classic Seinfeld episode.

"Desperado" itself is a "Desperado" song because, frankly, who the fuck would form such a personal connection to such a hugely popular, well-known and desperately corny song? It's not like it belonged to, or was discoverers by, the guy in the episode who insisted that Elaine "shhh" whenever it played like a self-important douchechill.

So, "Luna Sway" is a no-go. See previous comments about "Marquee Moon" and "Windowlicker" for rationale. There has to be an element of knowingly making a bit of an ass out of yourself, which listening to good music doesn't do. "Sister Ray" doesn't count either. Nor "Ode to Street Hassle."

Songs that WOULD qualify include (for example)
• "Boys of Summer" by Don Henley. Any "Boys of Summer" fans here? I'm sure someone turns it up when it comes on.
• "Rhiannon" by Fleetwood Mac (or more or less any song by Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks)
• "Take a Bow" by Madonna.
• "Fix You" by Coldplay
• "Scar Tissue" by Red Hot Mamajammas

Hits that have something obviously lame or ridiculous about them, but still cut right to the quick for some reason. Not that any of these songs do they for me, but you know that because I've given you the most "Desperado" song of this thread ("All the boys think she's a spy, she's got...") :D

Commence discussion.

mmmm... too complicated if it needs a rulebook

and it's not your proposition's fault but this thread is over at least in this regard

which reminds me i came in to post something else ha ha ha

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oh, it wasn't here!

I do love "Scar Tissue," but did anyone mention that one? I remember saying "Under The Bridge" myself.

I am totally a "Boys Of Summer" fan haha. I don't even know if I've heard any other Henley solo track - nor do I feel compelled to do so.

Leo Sayer - I Can't Stop Loving You

Aw man, don't say that! That makes it true!

Goddammit. And after all that kind-of-effort I put into codifying and defining the criteria for this thing that wasn't my idea in the first place!

Blast you!

ha ha ha ha

well it looks like it lived on, in spite of my predictions

you know i have opposite powers right? so dont make me say "it liiiiives!"

anyway, rhiannon or stevie nicks don't qualify for ridiculousness. however, if you say "don't stop thinking about tomorrow" then yeah that would be a shit song that i don't know who could love, but the democrats used it for clinton's reelection campaign

i don't think that stevie nicks was in that band by then, though. she had such a delicious voice.

Ok, fine .. "Gypsy" then. If someone zoned out with "feels" when they heard "Gypsy," you would be right to slap them.

ETA: "Tusk" is a great song.