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Not saying I'm attracted to JFK or anything. Ahem. Just saying he has sort of that classic magazine handsomeness, especially for his day. Not as striking as, say, Cary Grant, but nevertheless, not ugly. |
if you think who the president is does not really matter think about how this country ad the world was when clinton was president a sopposed to the shambles we find ourselves in after 8 years of this ignorant presidnt and his crony administration.
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Freakazoid, the NY Times article you posted is from February of last year. L.A. Times March 3, 2008 Flip-flopping on public financing They are each trying to maintain a financial edge over the other. http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,5382351.story Quote:
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is it wrong that i'm actively against voting for her in the general election? i wouldn't vote for mccain, either, though. don't get me wrong, though. i'm all for "making history" or whatever, and i'd love to see a woman as president-elect, but hillary clinton isn't that woman. and she's not going to become that woman in 7-8 months, either.
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NO FOOL, I'M TELLING YOU NO. MCCAIN TOOK PUBLIC MONEY, OBAMA HASN'T. YOU ARE MISINFORMED. AND THE 85 MIL. ARE FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION, WHICH IS IN THE FUTURE. AND OF COURSE THE ARTICLE IS FROM LAST YEAR, FOOL, I SAID SO MYSELF RIGHT NEXT TO THE LINK I POSTED, IT'S IN YOUR GODDAMN QUOTE OF MY POST, CAN YOU READ? IT SAYS "THAT'S FROM FEBRUARY 2007". THAT'S WHEN THAT STORY STARTED TO TAKE SHAPE. THIS DIDN'T BEGIN 5 DAYS AGO. DUH?? Quote:
SURE FOOL, THE REST OF US HAVE KNOWN THAT FOR WEEKS. THAT IS JUST COMMENTARY. -- i'm writing in bold caps so you maybe will read for comprehension. jah help you. |
Hillary is smart, efficient, MEAN, opinionated, diplomatic, and heavily experienced in both foreign affairs and homeland affairs
Obama is smart, eloquent, charismatic, but very very inexperienced. with the threat of Russia reverting back to it's soviet era totalitarianism, I would much rather have Clinton as president, and Obama as vice president, giving Obama time to learna nd get experience and achieve quite a lot of things, so when Hillary cannot run anymore, if she does a good job, then he can step in and continue. In 8 years he will be in his early 50's. Perfect for a president. Clinton/Obama 2008 kicking McCain in his turkey gullet. |
 dude fuckin rocked the bells.... in the 5th grade!!  .................................................. ......................^^^^^^^^^:eek: |
yeah rob but hillary is always followed by scandal & if that is the case obama will be as tainted as gore was in 2000.
plus hillary's experience as first lady of the u.s. and arkansas has taught her a lot about being an unprincipled weasel. |
Obama has been talking as if he already took public financing or was going to take public financing and now he probably isn't. And Obama is already starting to blame his change of heart on keeping up with the McCain McCampaign.
Obama is a politician and not a savior. So will ya please stop frothing at the mouth now? |
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IM JUST SAYING READ FOR COMPREHENSION, FOOL, AND DONT DRIBBLE AT THE MOUTH. IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE NEWS, YOU'LL KNOW THE OBAMA'S FUNDRAISING SUCCESS HAS BEEN WITH THE SMALL DONORS. I'M POSTING FROM MARS AND I KNOW THIS. PUT AN ANTENNA OUTSIDE YOUR CAVE. |
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Scary times, i agree with atari... Drudge was reporting over the weekend Obama is talking about having rethuglicans on his cabinet. Lets see, his wife is CFR (i don't know if he is) his advisor Zbignew Brezenski (spelling?) is Trilateral and CFR, and his financial advisor is Skull and Bones. He's called for bombing Pakistan. He got elected locally under odd circumstances - it was his opponent who was trying to get Jeri Ryan (the hot star trek borg-woman) to have public sex, and this was in a sealed record that was made public in time for the election that Obama won. Obama is not the savior. (The 2nd coming is already in Brooklyn according to a certain orthodox sect anyway). |
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scandal always follows her husband, not Hillary. She is much more self-controlled than him. I doubt that anything new will come up for her, while Obama, however, has all the makings of an inexperienced one term president. he needs to learn first hand, and vice president would let him lead the house of representatives, and take part in a lot of policy decisions, as long as Clinto is cool with it. I like how Obama was "Barry" in school. dumb crackas couldn't say barrack I guess. ;) |
Personally, I'm just waiting to find out whom the respective nominees choose as their running mates before I formally declare both eventual tickets to be worthless.
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a. obama has stated that he will not be hillary's running-mate. b. what is this experience are people keep talking about in reference to clinton? |
the GOP heavyweights are pressuring McCain to choose Huckabee as his running ate, even though they disagree on some very fundamental issues.
I like McCain, I think he would be a good president, but I am a very liberal person and it is time this country stopped sucking at the seeping anus of the health insurance companies that run our healthcare system. fuck them. I want someone to institue fullly socialized medicine for those that cannot afford the ridiculously high cost of medical care in the USA and let the rich keep paying for their fancy procedures. they do so anyways. |
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i just watched a video about some of hillary's dirtyish money. matter of fact, every time i've read about her, recently, it's something scandalous about money. and just because it isn't pee-pee in vajayjay scandalous, doesn't make it any less scandalous. |
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yeah my problem with hillary is that i don't believe a word she says. she's wonderful at pandering. :( on her own she's had vince foster, white water, cattle futures, travelgate, & more. plus she sided with bill while he was sexually assaulting women. i agree obama might not be fully ripe, but i'd rather have him making honest mistakes than ms. machiavelli engaged in a perpetual war taking advice from polls. now consider this: the evangelicals are not hard for magoo, but they'd come out in troves to defeat hellary. and who'll win more independents? i think magoo too... |
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Hillary clinton was a CABINET MEMBER for years, serving in foreign affairs, healthcare, and other aspects of the executive branch. She was a very influential advisor to her husband on matters of state, and she has international cache. She knows protocol, and she has already built up relationships with world leaders. Obama has one term as a senator under his belt. No foreign affairs experience. It cannt eb denied and he knows it and it is why he lost in texas and Ohio after the clinton campaign made it a point to enphasize this. the world today needs someone who can cope with not ust the american people, but the people of the world. I think Obama would make a great president if he got some more experience under his belt. if he does not want to be Hillary Clinton;s running mate then he is fucking up big time. |
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politcians/rich people without money "scandals" do not exist. Not a single one. Preznit Dubya ran thre4e separate companies into the ground, including the texas rangers, and no one seemed to think that was a bad sign heading into his presidency. look at our economy now. |
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...true. but this is 1973. "Barry" sounds like a hep cat. "Barack?" ...sounds like the black panther version of ...Philbert. |
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oh hell yes a lot of people did. the other side stole the election, that is all. |
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you , like me, probably do not believ any word any politician says. and rightly so. Bill never assaulted women. he got his cock sucked by dumb bitches who get pussy blind when they are around a powerful man, and you know this. hillary's "scanda;s" that you mention are exactly the same sort of business bullshi that ALL rich people do, that all business men engage in. she actually has been involved in way less than most. those were not real scandals man. |
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And they will again this time. Which is why we have the race we do. The Democratic party salivating over these minority candidates in an otherwise shoo-in election year is some pretty preposterous shit. |
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not his party, not his supporters. OF COURSE his opposition thought so. |
I think McCain may have sold his political soul to the hard core right wing in order to get this nomination man. he looked so shepish last night in his acceptance speech when he had to sucjk it up and spout off GOP party line shit, which he ahs reepeatedly shown he does not personally agree with.
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her accusations/insinuations of obama being muslim and insensitive remarks about his race and the civil rights movement show that she's ready to deal with people of the world, how? if she can't play nice at home, what makes you think she'll know how to deal with the kids across the street with the funny accents? why is experience such an issue? perhaps, the reason our country is so fucked up right now is b/c for waaaay too long, we've credited people with having experience, when all they've done is ride on someone else's coattail with a nice title attached to it. i think it's time someone with a different set of experiences be given a chance. |
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You don't need to hack voting machines when you can rather easily program people. McCain will indeed win the presidency, there you are correct; the fix was in from the beginning. |
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clinton was no cabinet member. she was first lady. they gave her health care and she fucked it up royally. such fuckup ushered the takeover of congress by newt gingrich. as for international cachet, the world is crazy about obama. see this for example: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/...ope/berlin.php http://abcnews.go.com/International/...4101774&page=1 http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/15860 http://www.observer.com/2008/how-oba...smug-europeans http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080212...voteobamajapan < ha ha |
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I was wondering if any of you nimrods caught the glaring boner at the end of Huckabee's concession speech last night. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/us...gewanted=print Tonight, I hope that our battle was never about us. It was about our country and its liberty. And now we join with Senator McCain and the rest in our party to continue that battle, to continue that fight, not for who gets elected, but for what we do in maintaining liberty and freedom when we get elected and when our country's flag still waves proudly on the wall. AUDIENCE MEMBER: You're a great American, Mike. MR. HUCKABEE: And you're a great American, as well. Thank you, folks. God bless you. We love you. And thank you very, very much for going the journey with us. Thank you. Yep, that's what he said: "...when our country's flag still waves proudly on the wall." Dude came off like a preacher the whole speech and still managed to end it like even more of a moron. |
Hilary winning is the worst thing that can happen to all you dems/liberals... I think McCain will stomp her... many many people hate her with a passion, and will simply vote against her moreso than for McCain
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Rob's goofy "McCain-as-appointed conservative punching bag" theory aside, McCain's going to edge out either Democrat in the presidential election. Must be why the Republicans were among the first to give Hillary money, eh? Again, for the Democrats to posit minority candidates (with what's at stake) in an otherwise shoo-in election year is, in my mind, incompetent; and that's the best case. In the worst case, it's a highly suspect move that's most likely due to underlying deep layers of political corruption. But don't let that perturb you, by all means, drone on, drones, drone on... |
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that may very well be, regarding "experience," but I am a political junie, read and watch anything I can get my hands on, and I have yet to hear anyone in the Clinton campaign make even a PEEP about Osama's name, about his religion, about any such thing. The people that are doing that are journalists and right-wing scare-mongers. |
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cachet is NOTHING. experience is everything Clinto WAS a cabinet member, and the healthcare reform she tried repeatedly to push through was shot down and destroyed by the Republican controlled congress, NOT by any ineptitude on her part. read up. newt gingrich was speaker of the house when clinton STARTED man! |
McCain's own base does not support or agree with his positions.
the evangelicals will sit this election out ratrher than vote for a man who is pro-choice and has said so many times. |
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Politics is CRAZY!
If Obama gets the nomination I sincerely hope he can maintain his "outsider" status, because if he truly is bringing new ideas and new thought he needs to enumerate these ideas instead of just talking big. it is very very hard to get anything accomplished as president when you are seen as an outsider. |
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i know, i know-- but that "movement" thing he talks about is not bullshit. you can mobilize people to effect change, like with the civil rights. that was from the ground up, not "given" by jbl or even mlk. if he can get people engange in a national debate regarding health care we'd all be better off for it. i just dont think hellary's top-down approach will work. |
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