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demonrail666 10.10.2020 11:15 AM

You ask that like I'm some kind of political anomaly. There are literally millions of people who would've once considered themselves 'of the left' but ditched so-called Leftist/Liberal parties, whether it's for Trump, Boris, whoever, simply because they find them more in tune with their sense of reality than most of those who currently advertise themselves as Leftists or Liberals. That's less an endorsement of Trump, et al, and more a question about how Left/Liberal politics has managed to alienate so many of what was once its base.

Debaser 10.10.2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
You ask that like I'm some kind of political anomaly. There are literally millions of people who would've once considered themselves 'of the left' but ditched so-called Leftist/Liberal parties, whether it's for Trump, Boris, whoever, simply because they find them more in tune with their sense of reality than most of those who currently advertise themselves as Leftists or Liberals. That's less an endorsement of Trump, et al, and more a question about how Left/Liberal politics has managed to alienate so many of what was once its base.





Right so, I'm from N.Ireland. Sinn Fein were championing LGBT equality. Sinn Fein's slogan in the last election was 'Equality, rights' Sinn Fein arn't exactly an establishment party, they're very much a party in the working class in what ..more than half of the north? People in my home town were resonated by this message (bullshit or not).

Again it reminds me of Brendan O'Neill or Spiked, moaning about all of this shit...who cares?! That prick has the luxury to go on every major media outlet and could actually talk about having the most corrupt UK government (which effects everyone), the most inept government (which effects everyone) and so on...but nope complaining about 'tranny' issues is his priority

!@#$%! 10.10.2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
You ask that like I'm some kind of political anomaly. There are literally millions of people who would've once considered themselves 'of the left' but ditched so-called Leftist/Liberal parties, whether it's for Trump, Boris, whoever, simply because they find them more in tune with their sense of reality than most of those who currently advertise themselves as Leftists or Liberals. That's less an endorsement of Trump, et al, and more a question about how Left/Liberal politics has managed to alienate so many of what was once its base.

nah, i’m not talking to millions, i’m talking to you. i don’t know “millions” and never talked to them.

shit man, i thought i knew you. i understand being disillusioned with the left. i understand being a political orphan. i understand a general skepticism about politics. but from there to actively siding with the bastards, and joining their propaganda campaign.... that shit is... oooof....

now when i think of west ham all i think is of this...

 


dammit man...

Skuj 10.10.2020 02:56 PM

Dotard (who is looking particularly orange today) just gave a speech at the Whitehouse to his MAGA people, who were crowded together, with very few masks anywhere. This, after the SCOTUS Nomination thing was deemed a spreader event.

There is no pandemic. There is no science. Nobody in this cult cares about it.

You know what? Keep doing this, Trumpy people. Enjoy those rallies.

Skuj 10.10.2020 03:15 PM

I just want to add that I think Strzok's new book stands out from the recent slew of Trump Horror Show books. It is well written and researched, and it is scary as fuck. I am constantly reminded that it is fucking amazing what Trump has gotten away with, be it Mueller, or Impeachment, or whatever the fuck.

(And no, Trumpy People, I don't care about Strzok's private texts.)

demonrail666 10.10.2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaser
Right so, I'm from N.Ireland. Sinn Fein were championing LGBT equality. Sinn Fein's slogan in the last election was 'Equality, rights' Sinn Fein arn't exactly an establishment party, they're very much a party in the working class in what ..more than half of the north? People in my home town were resonated by this message (bullshit or not).


We can all point to exceptions but you'll have a hard time convincing me that traditional working class areas (at least those outside of major cities) aren't on the whole feeling alienated by what they perceive as an increasingly Woke agenda taking hold of traditional Left wing and centrist parties.

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Originally Posted by Debaser
Again it reminds me of Brendan O'Neill or Spiked, moaning about all of this shit...who cares?! That prick has the luxury to go on every major media outlet and could actually talk about having the most corrupt UK government (which effects everyone), the most inept government (which effects everyone) and so on...but nope complaining about 'tranny' issues is his priority


I tend to agree, and I say that as someone who was for a while quite on board with a lot of what Spiked was doing. I continue to endorse them calling out the SJW stuff in terms of what it's doing to the Left, but that's no reason for them to turn a blind eye to the incompetences of the Tories right now (especially when they're becoming infected with the Woke virus themselves). But if you're talking about alternative Left wing media, the only other one I can think of that has an equivalent impact is Novara Media, which epitomises everything that I hate about this current identity-politics obsessed Left, so I'm still much more likely to follow Spiked than I am anything else, albeit with nowhere near the same enthusiasm that I used to.

Skuj 10.10.2020 04:46 PM

But her emails!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...eleased-before

So, are some of you folks voting for Hillary this time around?

tw2113 10.10.2020 04:49 PM

Who?

Skuj 10.10.2020 04:51 PM

Precisely.

demonrail666 10.10.2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
joining their propaganda campaign


Given that I can effectively boil my position down to, "Trump: Slightly Less Awful than the Alternative", I wouldn't say I have much to contribute to a propaganda campaign.

Skuj 10.10.2020 06:17 PM

"Trump: Slightly Less Awful than the Alternative."

Wow.

Biden is far from perfect. He wasn't my first choice for Dems. But in what Universe is he more awful than Trump?

(I can't keep track of who the Trumpy People are here anymore.)

demonrail666 10.10.2020 06:21 PM

Biden? Who mentioned Biden? We all know he's just a trojan horse for Kamala Harris.

!@#$%! 10.10.2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
"Trump: Slightly Less Awful than the Alternative",

i canít even...

Skuj 10.10.2020 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Biden? Who mentioned Biden? We all know he's just a trojan horse for Kamala Harris.


Ok. I'll bite. I'm willing to go down this road, for just a few minutes more.

In what Universe is Harris more awful than Trump? List 3 things about her that justifies such an outlook.

Skuj 10.10.2020 06:50 PM

(It's not because she is black, is it? I can't remember who I am talking to anymore.)

The Soup Nazi 10.10.2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
now when i think of west ham all i think is of this...

 



Now when I think of West Ham is I'm glad Pellegrini's not there anymore. :D

The Soup Nazi 10.10.2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i canít even...


I know. :(

The Soup Nazi 10.10.2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Biden? Who mentioned Biden? We all know he's just a trojan horse for Kamala Harris.


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Originally Posted by Skuj
(It's not because she is black, is it? I can't remember who I am talking to anymore.)


It's Fox News' line, verbatim. Others in the same alternative facts sphere (Michelle Bachmann and this board's own putrefied BP, to name just two) have said or strongly insinuated Biden is a Trojan horse for Black Marxism (whatever the fuck that is). So there.

 

Skuj 10.10.2020 08:29 PM

It is my opinion that the real reason many people went insane when Obama was POTUS is....well.....because he was black. They won't admit this, of course.

And now.....a black woman!!

This message board is just going to keep getting worse, isn't it?

The Soup Nazi 10.10.2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
It is my opinion that the real reason many people went insane when Obama was POTUS is....well.....because he was black. They won't admit this, of course.

And now.....a black woman!!

This message board is just going to keep getting worse, isn't it?

 


Sorry, but once your gifs go Bundy, you can't go back. Kinda like when you go Barack (hopefully! :D).

 


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