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ilduclo 03.26.2020 09:34 AM

Huge bailout package for Boeing. No strings attached, thanks to Mitch-n-Trimp.

As little chance of averting the plunge from $400 to $150 as there is to stop the plunge of a 737MAX.

 

h8kurdt 03.29.2020 03:32 PM

Trump tweeting about how good his TV ratings are from his addresses to the nation is just another notch in the "yes he is a raging narcissist" coloumn

!@#$%! 03.31.2020 07:13 PM

RAW COPYPASTA. im not cleaning it up you sort it out:


We have always been at war with the Chinese virus

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By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist
It’s hard to feel any sympathy for Trish Regan, the Fox News host who was fired after a rant in which she called the coronavirus “yet another attempt to impeach the president.” We may never know how many Fox viewers became gravely ill or died because they ignored social distancing in response to people like Regan, who told them that the pandemic was a politically motivated hoax. But the number was surely significant.

The twist in the Regan story, however, is that what she said wasn’t significantly different from what her whole network had been saying for weeks. Her career-killing mistake wasn’t saying something false and evil, it was her timing. She apparently missed the abrupt turn in the party line by a few hours.

For Regan’s rant came just after Fox and right-wing media in general suddenly changed their line from “the pandemic is a liberal hoax” to “everyone must unify behind our great leader in his heroic struggle against the Chinese virus.” And for some reason Regan didn’t get the memo.

Actually, Regan wasn’t the only person who didn’t get the memo. A number of people on the religious right are still sticking with the virus-as-hoax story, notably Jerry Falwell Jr., who defied public health experts by reopening Liberty University — and promptly created his own personal virus hot spot. But most leading figures on the right have swerved on command.

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Needless to say, the mounting coronavirus death toll hasn’t produced any apologies from pundits who previously claimed that the virus was a hoax, let alone admissions that the terrible, horrible, no-good mainstream media were actually giving accurate information. Perhaps more surprisingly, as far as I know there haven’t been any howls of protest from Fox viewers, or Rush Limbaugh listeners, who are now being told something completely different from what they were hearing three weeks ago. Their trust in Fox, their disdain for The New York Times and The Washington Post, and, above all, their faith in Donald Trump are apparently unshaken.

The parallels with George Orwell’s “Nineteen Eighty-Four” are obvious. When Oceania suddenly shifts alliances, and its former ally Eastasia becomes an enemy, everyone knows what to believe: not only was the nation at war with Eastasia, it had always been at war with Eastasia. In Orwell’s vision, however, this mind-set was produced by a totalitarian state whose vigilant Thought Police stamp out any hint of independent thought. America isn’t a totalitarian state — not yet, anyway — yet there are tens of millions of American apparently willing to act and think as if the Thought Police were already up and running.

Orwell wrote a great essay a few years before “Nineteen Eighty-Four” titled “Looking Back on the Spanish War.” In it he wrote of his vision of a “nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, ‘It never happened’ — well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five — well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs.”

Well, a lot of Americans evidently already live in that nightmare world. And that scares me more than Covid-19.

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Quick Hits

Democracy effectively died in Hungary a while back, but the ruling party is exploiting the pandemic to go full totalitarian. Yes, it could happen here.

Laurie Garrett warned for years that something like this could happen. Her thoughts on America’s response.

The Republican about-face on deficits prefigured the sudden swerve on the coronavirus.

The economy is taking a hit. Unemployment might go as high as 32 percent.

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The Soup Nazi 04.01.2020 12:10 AM

^ Although it's not news, brilliant and extraordinarily soul-crushing.

I wonder whether someone as un-thrilling as Biden (I'm talking about the candidate, not necessarily the policy) really can take on this shit.

The Soup Nazi 04.01.2020 12:22 AM

^^ This, by the way, is why Francis Fukuyama has spent 28 fuckin' years moving the goalpost for his "End of History".

!@#$%! 04.02.2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
^^ This, by the way, is why Francis Fukuyama has spent 28 fuckin' years moving the goalpost for his "End of History".

lmfao true true true

he was always dreaming i thought

Bytor Peltor 04.02.2020 11:21 AM

BREAKING: Democrats to postpone convention from mid-July to week of Aug. 17 amid coronavirus.

The Soup Nazi 04.02.2020 11:34 AM


Right, because a month will change everything. Look, if I could vote obviously I would vote Democratic, and I hope they could have a great convention (Biden needs it), but this is retarded. The United States is about to suffer the death of A QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE and the only "game-changer" is a vaccine that won't be ready until March-November 2021. Fuck coventions; let's just try to have an election without people dropping dead while waiting in line to vote.

Bytor Peltor 04.02.2020 12:26 PM

Soup, I shared the Convention postponement in this thread because I don’t want the coronavirus thread moving toward politics. However, yesterday in the coronavirus thread, I shared a story about the Toronto Governor postponing city event through the end of June. I believe American States will do similar over the coming days. The Convention postponement is the first I’ve seen for the month of July.

Any idea how long the conventions can keep postponing and still endorse a candidate by November?

The Soup Nazi 04.02.2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Soup, I shared the Convention postponement in this thread because I donít want the coronavirus thread moving toward politics.


Lil' late for that. They've been inextricably linked since Agent Orange tried to lie his way out of it and now he's bouncing between Kudlow's Dow Jones First dogma and maybe doing something to prevent what is basically a fightable genocide - not that he knows dick about how to begin to fight such a battle. And you of course followed in line and repeated the bullshit, when examples like the Italian catastrophe were already showing the brutality of the situation.

The right whining about the pandemic becoming politicized is another repulsive display of hipocrisy. Even the Reagans' homophobic carelessness at the height of the AIDS crisis can't compare to McConnell saying the impeachment proceedings distracted the country from protecting itself against Covid-19. FUCK HIM TO DEATH.

As for the conventions, I don't mind you posting that link wherever the hell you want, at least it's information; what I'm saying is WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE BALLOONS when the apocalypse is taking place RIGHT FUCKIN' NOW.

!@#$%! 04.02.2020 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
apocalypse is taking place RIGHT FUCKIN' NOW.

ALPACAlypse
LLAMAgeddon

whatchu doing reading beauregard’s postrels :D

o wait wait this is the disgrace thread

sorry

Skuj 04.02.2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Lil' late for that. They've been inextricably linked since Agent Orange tried to lie his way out of it and now he's bouncing between Kudlow's Dow Jones First dogma and maybe doing something to prevent what is basically a fightable genocide - not that he knows dick about how to begin to fight such a battle. And you of course followed in line and repeated the bullshit, when examples like the Italian catastrophe were already showing the brutality of the situation.

The right whining about the pandemic becoming politicized is another repulsive display of hipocrisy. Even the Reagans' homophobic carelessness at the height of the AIDS crisis can't compare to McConnell saying the impeachment proceedings distracted the country from protecting itself against Covid-19. FUCK HIM TO DEATH.

As for the conventions, I don't mind you posting that link wherever the hell you want, at least it's information; what I'm saying is WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE BALLOONS when the apocalypse is taking place RIGHT FUCKIN' NOW.


This bears repeating.

Skuj 04.02.2020 10:02 PM

The thing about Moscow Mitch making that statement (and I hate that man even more than I hate Trump, I think) ....he actually ADMITS that Team Trump was not ready!! Thank you Mitch for at least stating some of the truth.

_tunic_ 04.03.2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
This bears repeating.



 

!@#$%! 04.03.2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
 

:D :D :D

must spread more rep before etc.!

Bytor Peltor 04.03.2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
 


This post is Max Baer Jr. approved!

 

Skuj 04.03.2020 11:54 AM

Wait.....it bares repeating? Fuck, I can't do grammar anymore.

!@#$%! 04.03.2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Wait.....it bares repeating? Fuck, I can't do grammar anymore.

no, it’s bear (accept, stand, carry) not bare (naked)

tunic is hilarious though

Skuj 04.03.2020 10:44 PM

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...ral-says-he-no

It's a Friday night during Covidmageddon. Nobody will give a fuck, right?

God I hate this motherfucker Trump.

!@#$%! 04.04.2020 07:30 AM

FOR SKUJ:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...a6d_story.html
as a way of explanation


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