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Bytor Peltor 01.30.2020 05:14 PM

Would LOVE to see John Bolton Under Oath

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 05:59 PM

sure you would beauregard

choc e-Claire 01.30.2020 06:39 PM

Went along and did the ISideWith and WaPo candidate quizzes. Unsurprisingly, I'm largely a Sanders fangirl - which puts me fairly close to Warren as well. Therefore, c'mon Sanders/Warren ticket.

I'm also apparently close to Yang (via the Washington Post one), but it turns out the stuff we disagree on is fairly important to me. Plus I get a feeling that he might sell out at some point fairly soon after. (That, and the Yang Gang are annoying.)

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
Went along and did the ISideWith and WaPo candidate quizzes. Unsurprisingly, I'm largely a Sanders fangirl - which puts me fairly close to Warren as well. Therefore, c'mon Sanders/Warren ticket.


that’s gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I'm also apparently close to Yang (via the Washington Post one), but it turns out the stuff we disagree on is fairly important to me. Plus I get a feeling that he might sell out at some point fairly soon after. (That, and the Yang Gang are annoying.)


i feel uncomfortable talking about democratic candidates in the dotard’s thread

he’s always making everything about himself, and we’re playing right into his tiny, weak-ass, pussy-grabbing, nature-hating, racist hands

tw2113 01.30.2020 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
thatís gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television



i feel uncomfortable talking about democratic candidates in the dotardís thread

heís always making everything about himself, and weíre playing right into his tiny, weak-ass, pussy-grabbing, nature-hating, racist hands





Start a "Is Bernie really a serious contender for the Democratic nomination" thread ;)

choc e-Claire 01.30.2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
thatís gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television

I evidently missed this one. :confused:

Weird, from what I'm gathering they seem to have a lot of similar policies, but they're apparently quite different?

Derek 01.30.2020 09:03 PM

Yang is a dummy. UBI is something that should be looked into but the fact that he wants to carte blanche give everyone a grand a month without any mass systemic changes is irresponsible.

When asked "what if landlords and retailers just put their prices up?" he said "well the market would prevent that". None of it makes any sense. No, the market would not stop greedy landlords nor would it stop Walmart making a loaf of bread $10 when it's the only place in your town. The West is consumed by unfettered capitalism and there is a lot that needs to be done before something like UBI can make sense.

And Warren can go kick rocks. She is a pandering phony. She is nothing like Bernie despite the association. She is in it for herself just like every other establishment dem in the race and would make a horrible leader. Sanders is for the worker and can mobilise a mass progressive movement. I think he will outperform the polls (what was it? like 0.3% between him and Hillary in Iowa in 2016 despite being massively behind in polls? He won New Hampshire with 60%?). The only caveat would be the South but I think he will have enough momentum at that point either way. Hopefully Bloomberg takes away some of Biden's support when he arrogantly storms in during Super Tuesday with his billions of dollars.

Derek 01.30.2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I evidently missed this one. :confused:

Weird, from what I'm gathering they seem to have a lot of similar policies, but they're apparently quite different?

Warren is a "ethical capitalist", Bernie is a social democrat. While their policies are similar on a surface level, Warren's positions are actually much more compromised. She has flip flopped constantly on major issues and doesn't have anywhere near as good of a track record as Bernie.

She is also a chronic liar. Her beef with Bernie (which conveniently came out when her poll numbers were falling and his were rising the night before a debate) is that apparently Bernie said to her that a woman couldn't win the presidency. Which makes absolutely no sense since there is footage of Bernie saying a woman could be president in 1988 and a few years ago. He also encouraged Warren to run in 2016 and when she didn't, he decided to instead. He also did 47 campaign events for Hillary (and btw, Hillary did only 11 campaign events for Obama in 2008). It makes absolutely no sense that he would say that to her or even think that. It's a lie for political gain and a lot of people lost respect for her after it, even non-Sanders supporters.

She also lied and said she was Native American, with a Harvard Law Journal naming her as the first woman of colour to teach there. She said that she didn't know they were billing her that way, when there are data forms she signed where she put her ethnicity as "American Indian". She lied to get ahead professionally, and took away an achievement from someone who is actually a minority. Not to mention that she wrote a Native American recipe book called Pow Wow Chow that she called old family recipes, when it was actually copied from somewhere else.

Oh she was also a diehard Republican until 1996 at the young impressionable age of 47. She says that she changed her mind when she looked into how people use welfare to try and catch them out, only to find that the majority on welfare were struggling families who couldn't make ends meet. It took her that long to figure out such a basic thing? Wtf?

There are tons of things suspicious about her and I've barely cracked the surface but the point is that she can't be trusted and has no issue with lying to get ahead. That is not leader quality. Bernie has been consistent, honest and principled his entire decades long career. They are not the same at all.

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Start a "Is Bernie really a serious contender for the Democratic nomination" thread ;)

lol of course heís a serious contender.

i made a thread about the democratic debates some time ago. maybe iíll dig it out or make one about the primaries.

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 10:54 PM

damn, derek looks like a republican oppo research operative here

Derek 01.31.2020 01:36 AM

If it pays better than my current shitty job then hell I'll do it

Bytor Peltor 01.31.2020 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sure you would beauregard


I truly would trade Boltonís sworn testimony for that of Hunter or Joe, because I want to hear it, but I highly doubt it happens!

Actually, Iím looking for a NO VOTE on witnesses and a swift move of a UP or DOWN vote......that vote leading to a MAJORITY ACQUITTAL!!!


Everyone have a great weekend!!!

h8kurdt 01.31.2020 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I truly would trade Boltonís sworn testimony for that of Hunter or Joe, because I want to hear it, but I highly doubt it happens!

Actually, Iím looking for a NO VOTE on witnesses and a swift move of a UP or DOWN vote......that vote leading to a MAJORITY ACQUITTAL!!!


Everyone have a great weekend!!!


You write like that all the time? Even when sending business letters?

!@#$%! 01.31.2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You write like that all the time? Even when sending business letters?

heís not allowed to write at work

!@#$%! 01.31.2020 08:22 AM

anyway, the republican mafia in the senate seems ready to exonerate their demon overlod without a single witness testifying

sham sham sham... we can all see and remember

ilduclo 01.31.2020 08:32 AM

Trimp DNA.

h8kurdt 01.31.2020 07:05 PM

Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.

!@#$%! 01.31.2020 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.

but that would require a mind, plus enough ability to perform gymnastics... :rolleyes: :D

tw2113 01.31.2020 08:02 PM

they already make the US people bend over backwards while saying "please sir may i have another?"

h8kurdt 02.01.2020 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
but that would require a mind, plus enough ability to perform gymnastics... :rolleyes: :D


More flailing around than gymnastics, right?


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