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Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2011 07:03 AM

the Who thread
 
Maybe there is one already?

In any way I have to say I have appreciated that band long, long time. I think itīs one of the first punk bands although there was Sonics before(Somebody has said to me that Trasmen`s Surfinī Bird was the first punk song, but I think it was Eddie Cochranīs something else). Whoīs first albums are so energetic that very rare band in that time couldnīt do the same. In middle seventies their records start to getting a little bit bad direction, but I havenīt heard any totally bad record (I havenīt heard Face Dances and Itīs hard). They are one of the rare bands, who has made fine comeback album (endless wire, itīs at least as good as Who by Numbers). Their concert in few years ago was also very good (Daltreyīs voice was not in a total good condition and they were a little bit tired because it was their last concert on that tour). But in encores they play many songs from Tommy and I was in heaven!

Glice 01.16.2011 07:24 AM

Haven't listened to the Who in ages - I find their lyrics quite tiresome now, but live in Leeds is one of the better live albums out there. Fucking loud as well.

Something I quite like about Townshend is that he's got an absurdly heavy attack. Even with the amps at full whack, he'll still cunt the fuck out of his guitar. Him and Jeff Beck are the only interesting guitarist out of that era, for me - and they're both happy doing one-note solos, rather than widdling about like a cunt (Clapton).

atsonicpark 01.16.2011 08:03 AM

who you listening to?
who
no, who you listening to
who
no, i asked you who you listening to
who

SuperCreep 01.16.2011 10:01 AM

they were one of my favorite bands as a teenager, but my interest has waned pretty heavily. i just can't be arsed outside of their first three albums and live at leeds these days.

Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Haven't listened to the Who in ages - I find their lyrics quite tiresome now, but live in Leeds is one of the better live albums out there. Fucking loud as well.

Something I quite like about Townshend is that he's got an absurdly heavy attack. Even with the amps at full whack, he'll still cunt the fuck out of his guitar. Him and Jeff Beck are the only interesting guitarist out of that era, for me - and they're both happy doing one-note solos, rather than widdling about like a cunt (Clapton).


Iīm not big Jeff Beck-fan, although I have had interest to his early solo works. My brother have Blow by Blow, Wired and Live with Jan Hammer and used to listen them a lot, but now I havenīt got interest about them. Only "Beck-album" I have is Yardbirdīs Roger the engineer. In that album his solos are at least in some songs very near Townshend solos. Maybe Beck didnīt use feedback as radically as Townshend. But I think thereīs lots more interesting guitarists in 60-70ies for example Jimi Hendrix, also Clapton (his works before his solo career, sometimes he plays great solos some other artistīs albums also nowdays), Robert Fripp, Frank Zappa, the most of the Beefheart guitarists, Dave Gilmour, Ulrich Roth and Robin Trower.

Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperCreep
they were one of my favorite bands as a teenager, but my interest has waned pretty heavily. i just can't be arsed outside of their first three albums and live at leeds these days.


I agree about that the three first albums are just great, I think the Who sell out is their best album. But I think also Tommy, Live At Leeds, Whoīs next and Quadrophenia is just great!!! And I like also Odds and Sodds and Meaty,Beaty... -compilations a lot.

Glice 01.16.2011 11:53 AM

I'm going to have to repeat this, because it's very important to me that I continue to emphasise that Zappa is the shittest thing imaginable. No offence to your good self [etc].

Fripp is a good call though, he's got a really interesting approach to the guitar at the time. Not really an 'orthodox' player though, more in the lieage of Keith Rowe.

Pelle 01.16.2011 12:38 PM

One of my favourite bands.

Got a complete vinyl collection, a huge pile of dvds + the luck to see them live in 2007.

I heard theyre planning to tour with quadrophenia in 2011, or a new concept, they hadn't decided yet. I totally look forward, one of the bands I've been dedicating my life to.

keep poppin pimples 01.16.2011 01:20 PM

i've been hearing them on the radio almost everyday, and i don't like it because i don't like them

Mortte Jousimo 01.16.2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I'm going to have to repeat this, because it's very important to me that I continue to emphasise that Zappa is the shittest thing imaginable. No offence to your good self [etc].

Fripp is a good call though, he's got a really interesting approach to the guitar at the time. Not really an 'orthodox' player though, more in the lieage of Keith Rowe.


Itīs very easy to me understand why people donīt like Zappa. I think heīs one of them people love or hate, very rare feel that he is indifferent. Well I had only "Does Humor belong into music"-tv document at first and it was me hard to understand, why some of my friends keep the man genius, I thought then that he is ok, but not great. Then I bought Bongo Fury (Beefheart was the reason) and began to understand how great he was.

About great guitarists of 60-70ies, I forgot to mention Johnny Winter, Rory Gallagher, Alan Wilson, Duane Allman, Carlos Santana and John McLaughlin. Johnny Winter And, Johnny Winter And: Live, Living the Blues, At Fillmore East, Santana First, Abraxas, Santana Third, Against the grain and Birds of Fire are all just great albums! By the way whatīs the substance of music is the most important to me, I canīt listen the music, if the musics boring whatever good guitarists it have.

Genteel Death 01.16.2011 05:52 PM

This band changed everything for me from a young age. Being a passive/agressive finally meant I could exist.

The Watcher 01.16.2011 06:50 PM

I rarely play Who's Next or Sell Out or Live At Leeds these days, but My Generation is a fucking revelation - such great songs, such amazing guitar tones, such fantastic energy. The deluxe reissue was amazing for extra tracks, b-sides, soul covers, etc plus I am reasonably positive Jimmy Page plays on a few of the tracks..... great record all around.........

Genteel Death 01.16.2011 07:59 PM

''I Can't Explain'' is one of the best songs ever written. It's totally MALE in its point of view, luckily avoiding macho postures, gay leaninings or anything that'd decimate its potential. A fucking gem.

Genteel Death 01.16.2011 08:01 PM

I Love The Who. I'm A Mod At Heart.

The Watcher 01.16.2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
''I Can't Explain'' is one of the best songs ever written. It's totally MALE in its point of view, luckily avoiding macho postures, gay leaninings or anything that'd decimate its potential. A fucking gem.


Fuck yeah man, that song is insanely good! I'm always amazed Circles wasn't a hit either, totally killer song......

Mortte Jousimo 01.17.2011 02:39 AM

The start of the concert here in Finland couldnīt be better: First song was I canīt explain. In the back of the band they showed old black and white film from the begin of the their career.

EVOLghost 01.17.2011 05:41 AM

The who are fantastic. Got the LIve at Reed Vinyl and it's perrrrrfect. Not to mention their performance of A Quick One While She's away from the Rolling STones Circus is amazing.

demonrail666 01.17.2011 08:05 AM

I love those first few singles but apart from the odd song, never really got into anything they did after. I pretty much agree with everything already said about 'I Can't Explain'; a fantastic record. Then Townshend started wearing boiler suits and writing songs about engine drivers, at which point it all went a bit tits up for me.

Mortte Jousimo 10.10.2011 09:41 AM

In ELP-thread The Watcher claimed that ELP is the greatest band of all time. Well, to me personally Sonic Youth is still the most important at the moment, but If I have to say what is the most remarkable band in the pop/rock music history, I say it is the WHO! Why I havenīt said this before is that I have always thought Face Dances and Itīs Hard is quite miserable albums. I have just heard all the Who studio albums in passing (with working) and maybe Face Dances is not still very strong album. But I bought Itīs Hard and listened it properly and itīs just great! Well itīs not the Who Sell Out or Tommy or Whoīs next, but much greater than Who are You!

I think Who is almost the only sixties-seventies band who sound so fresh also in the eighties. I have thought the greatest band would have also been King Crimson, because I have also listened recently their albums Construkction Of Light and Power to Believe, but even theyīre also great albums, they are so depressive when the Who Itīs Hard and also Endless Wire is so full of hope! I also think Who have done almost all kinds of style music, they have succeed even put the symphonic elements in Tommy and Quadrophenia. And I think they also succeed to reform without making it constrained like many other bands. Itīs Hard and Endless wire sounds so different that first album My generation, but still itīs easy to recognise them all who albums. Maybe there is echoes from Quadrophenia in Itīs Hard and Endless Wire, but Quadrophenia is quite depressive album when those two are so optimistic. The Who made also one of the rock/pop history greatest singles!

Maybe the Beatles is still the most important band in the sixties, but I think the Who is the most important of all time!

The Who have had many official recognitions, but I think thereīs lots of younger people who donīt know how important band the Who is.

I know many of you will disagree with me, but please, but the arguments also, not just a lame "youīre wrong"-opinion.

tesla69 10.11.2011 08:25 AM

I wish they would release their set from Woodstock. It is incredible and my GEN20 copy doesn't even sound very good. The short piece they releaed on The Kids Are Alright is just a tasty teaser of this band at their heaviest. The Who took the Jeff Beck Group slot (but only after the Jefferson Airplane signed on, as they were the biggest band around at the time and The WHo didn't want to be left behind, I think the Jeff Beck Group was having internal problems.).

Check out the 2 Jeff Beck Group albums for some excellent 60's UK blues. Rod Stewart sounds great and the musicianship is killer.

Its hard for us to understand how bands like Jeff Beck and the Who changed everything when they started showing up at gigs with guitar stacks and PAs, up to that time bands played on little amps. of course that later allowed promoters to put bands in enormous stadiums with huge stacks of amps that sounded like shit. But lots of money was to be made...

Mortte Jousimo 10.14.2011 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
I wish they would release their set from Woodstock. It is incredible and my GEN20 copy doesn't even sound very good. The short piece they releaed on The Kids Are Alright is just a tasty teaser of this band at their heaviest. The Who took the Jeff Beck Group slot (but only after the Jefferson Airplane signed on, as they were the biggest band around at the time and The WHo didn't want to be left behind, I think the Jeff Beck Group was having internal problems.).

Check out the 2 Jeff Beck Group albums for some excellent 60's UK blues. Rod Stewart sounds great and the musicianship is killer.

Its hard for us to understand how bands like Jeff Beck and the Who changed everything when they started showing up at gigs with guitar stacks and PAs, up to that time bands played on little amps. of course that later allowed promoters to put bands in enormous stadiums with huge stacks of amps that sounded like shit. But lots of money was to be made...


Those first Jeff Beck Group albums have always interested me a lot, but there has always been many other albums...but I think in the near future I will listen them! I think you also like the Faces, I have only Ooh La Laa, but also have a great interest of other bands albums.

tesla69 10.14.2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Those first Jeff Beck Group albums have always interested me a lot, but there has always been many other albums...but I think in the near future I will listen them! I think you also like the Faces, I have only Ooh La Laa, but also have a great interest of other bands albums.


Small Faces or Faces? ;-) I don't think have anything by either band actually...

Mortte Jousimo 10.17.2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
So Sad About Us is the only song I like
other than that..........vomit

Why?

Mortte Jousimo 10.17.2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
Small Faces or Faces? ;-) I don't think have anything by either band actually...

I mean Faces. Stewart was singing into it (I think there was maybe some other same members as in the first Jeff Beck Group). Someone has said Faces was "punkier" version of the Rolling Stones and I agree that even I read Ooh La Laa is the softest album of them.

I have heard also just a few songs from Small Faces, it is also on my "list" of the bands need to check-in.

DeadDiscoDildo 10.17.2011 08:26 PM

Your love for the who is surprising! Certain posters, at least.

A band I loved when I was younger, and then stopped listening to for whatever reason.

I've been re-discovering bands from my teens lately (early misfits, ramones, doors, etc. SY even) so I'll have to dive back into the Who.

Mortte Jousimo 10.19.2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
Your love for the who is surprising! Certain posters, at least.

A band I loved when I was younger, and then stopped listening to for whatever reason.

I've been re-discovering bands from my teens lately (early misfits, ramones, doors, etc. SY even) so I'll have to dive back into the Who.

Well, I have been suprised that Who thread didnīt get more attention here. I think if there hadnīt been the Who, there wouldnīt have also been SY.

DeadDiscoDildo 10.19.2011 02:03 PM

Or Nirvana for that matter.

or punk.

for sure

But at the same time....


the horrendous pirotechnics of the 80s probably wouldnt have existed either.

E. Noisefield 10.19.2011 07:22 PM

I really enjoy some early Who stuff, and I like The Who Sell Out quite a bit. They were pretty badass in the beginning, but most of what they did really doesn't appeal to me at all. First few records I can dig, though.

Mortte Jousimo 10.24.2011 08:52 AM

I just have been wondering, how many here have properly listened Tommy, Whoīs Next or Quadrophenia? I have doubts many havenīt listened Itīs Hard or Endless Wire at all. I think those 80-2000 albums have much more positive aggressive energy than any album of "so-called punk bands" like Bad Religion, Therapy?, Green Day or Offspring (Hereīs great example from Itīs Hard):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSP_Zs7Nr7o

Of course if someone donīt honestly like the later Who-production, itīs ok, but I think itīs very stupid if someone donīt like it for that reason because most of the sixties band made not so good material later.


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