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Gulasch Noir 08.28.2011 02:47 PM

Further Education / Going to University again
 
Well, in a few weeks you can call me doctor iuris, if you want to. I'm working 20 - 30 hours per week at the moment and have an income sufficient to my needs, so I was considering studying something new - "just for fun". It's quite cheap in my country to study.

Did anyone else do something like this - after you've finished your education and already have got a decent job? How was it? Did you actually finish it? How long did it take? How many hours did you work per week at the same time? Did you also attend student parties? Did the girls (or boys) treated you with the "proper respect", which can be both a good and a bad thing?

I just think it's more attractive to me compared to the working 40 - 50 hours a week alternative - like many friends of mine do - when you don't really need the additional money. Of course you can also get married and become a parent. Also nice, but not now.

I'm considering Romance studies, because i really like (and know a bit in) Spanisch and Italian (and Latin). I also thought about arab or the turkic languages, but on the other hand I have come to the conclusion it woudn't be really an "amusement" due to the difficulty of these languages.

Where are you 30 und 40 something year old students?

If you are not in the mood the answer any question I asked, you can also name the beer you are drinking most (which has not to be your favorite beer).

Zipfer Urtyp (recently-ish)

knox 08.28.2011 03:28 PM

I will study again, definitely. It's just something I enjoy doing.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't come cheap for me and it's not really a possibility right now. But, you know, you don't really need to go back to university to learn a language, if that's what you want. In fact, I don't know anyone who actually managed to learn a language in a proper academic environment.

Sadly, in my profession more study won't equal more income so it won't be worth the investment unless I have money and time to spare in the future.

I sometimes think of going to Law School then I remember how insane that idea is, considering I am me.

My favorite beer is the Mexican sol. I know that's not a popular choice but... I like them weak and watery.

gast30 08.28.2011 03:53 PM

what i remeber from school was that it was easy
didn't finished school

after that
learned things in autodidactic
my only interest was the study of modern visuals from micro and macrocosmos
soo amazing all this new information
the dream of the pioneers came true

i lived in their dreams

so i don't feel the need to go to university
have done enough brainwork to make myself happy

gast30 08.28.2011 03:56 PM

you can call me Mr. Futurist
and i like tequillia

Gulasch Noir 08.28.2011 04:00 PM

yeah, it's nice, when education is free or at least cheap, isn't it? Only conservative politicians would add at this point, that everything with a value must cost something ...

I know, it's not indispensable to go to University, when you want to learn a language. But I'm also interested in History, Geography etc of the particular country, and you also get this at the Uni. Furthermore, I just like the University. And with a degree in hands I eventually could earn a few extra bucks through translating .... ? Who knows. Or even become a certified court interpreter ... ?

So what have you studied respectively are studying and where? You think a degree from law school wouldn't mean more income? Hm.

Thanks for your contribution. As a thank you get a phrase you already might know: Impossibilium nulla est obligatio (you cannot agree something impossible. Not very exciting, I know. Just like jurists in general. Dry and correct.

El sol de Mexico. Bueno. Me llamo Gulasch Noir y tengo pelo marrón.

Gulasch Noir 08.28.2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
what i remeber from school was that it was easy
didn't finished school

after that
learned things in autodidactic
my only interest was the study of modern visuals from micro and macrocosmos
soo amazing all this new information
the dream of the pioneers came true

i lived in their dreams

so i don't feel the need to go to university
have done enough brainwork to make myself happy


Cool

knox 08.28.2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulasch Noir
yeah, it's nice, when education is free or at least cheap, isn't it? Only conservative politicians would add at this point, that everything with a value must cost something ...

I know, it's not indispensable to go to University, when you want to learn a language. But I'm also interested in History, Geography etc of the particular country, and you also get this at the Uni. Furthermore, I just like the University. And with a degree in hands I eventually could earn a few extra bucks through translating .... ? Who knows. Or even become a certified court interpreter ... ?

So what have you studied respectively are studying and where? You think a degree from law school wouldn't mean more income? Hm.

Thanks for your contribution. As a thank you get a phrase you already might know: Impossibilium nulla est obligatio (you cannot agree something impossible. Not very exciting, I know. Just like jurists in general. Dry and correct.

El sol de Mexico. Bueno. Me llamo Gulasch Noir y tengo pelo marrón.


No, I don't mean Law School. That could mean money, although where I am there are a lot more attorneys than needed and many work in different fields.

I did a few postgraduate courses, which helped my income but a proper MA (even if free, which is a possibility) would not improve anything in my profession, because it's all about contacts and not degrees. There's good and bad sides to that, but I'd have to work a lot less to have time for a Master's Degree and I can't afford to not make money.

I'm a translator/interpreter/copywriter. And I can honestly tell you I don't know ONE person who has learnt a foreign language properly at university. Also, if you care about money I wouldn't recommend that career.

the ikara cult 08.28.2011 04:12 PM

Theres alot to be said for being an enlightened amateur, you can find reccomendations on a particular subject fairly easily from reliable sources, spend £100 or so on books, join a discussion group, and get as good an education as you would do at a university. It depends what your goal at the end is; if you want a job out of it go to uni, if its for pleasure, do it yourself

knox 08.28.2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the ikara cult
Theres alot to be said for being an enlightened amateur, you can find reccomendations on a particular subject fairly easily from reliable sources, spend £100 or so on books, join a discussion group, and get as good an education as you would do at a university. It depends what your goal at the end is; if you want a job out of it go to uni, if its for pleasure, do it yourself


Well, I find going to class very enjoyable. You know, the whole experience.

knox 08.28.2011 04:19 PM

His name is Goulash and he has brown hair.

the ikara cult 08.28.2011 04:20 PM

I did too. Mainly because there was a 1:10 male:female ratio. I think i learned something along the way... they mentioned facial recognition and cannabis... The fact i got a 2:1 whilst being an alcoholic mess suggests to me that the university system aint entirely straight in the UK

Gulasch Noir 08.28.2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
what i remeber from school was that it was easy
didn't finished school

after that
learned things in autodidactic
my only interest was the study of modern visuals from micro and macrocosmos
soo amazing all this new information
the dream of the pioneers came true

i lived in their dreams

so i don't feel the need to go to university
have done enough brainwork to make myself happy


Returned from consuming a Camel Light I thought I could appreciate your post a bit more. Autodidactic is not a bad thing per se at all. I just feel the desire for learning something in a more focused way, and my autodidactic experience was not focused at all, bit of this bit of that. But it's cool to hear, you made it. Altough I wasn't really able to understand your subject due to my not so super English.

knox 08.28.2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the ikara cult
I did too. Mainly because there was a 1:10 male:female ratio. I think i learned something along the way... they mentioned facial recognition and cannabis... The fact i got a 2:1 whilst being an alcoholic mess suggests to me that the university system aint entirely straight in the UK


Nobody is NOT an alcoholic at university, not even professors.
It was heaven for me, first learning experience ever in which I didn't feel patronised.

Also, teaching yourself is not for everyone. Most people lack the discipline.

the ikara cult 08.28.2011 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
Nobody is NOT an alcoholic at university, not even professors.
It was heaven for me, first learning experience ever in which I didn't feel patronised.

Also, teaching yourself is not for everyone. Most people lack the discipline.


I had a housemate who was dedicated, disciplined, studious... and we both ended up getting the same grade. I felt guilty cos she worked so hard and id been so unreliable. Maybe im running myself down in retrospect, but it certainly felt that way.
troo on the second point. Im like that with exercise, i need other people to pressure me into doing it. But when it comes to learning stuff, im better left to my own devices. I hate people telling me what to do, but i like being told to do what im doing harder/faster/stronger

Gulasch Noir 08.28.2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
No, I don't mean Law School. That could mean money, although where I am there are a lot more attorneys than needed and many work in different fields.

I did a few postgraduate courses, which helped my income but a proper MA (even if free, which is a possibility) would not improve anything in my profession, because it's all about contacts and not degrees. There's good and bad sides to that, but I'd have to work a lot less to have time for a Master's Degree and I can't afford to not make money.

I'm a translator/interpreter/copywriter. And I can honestly tell you I don't know ONE person who has learnt a foreign language properly at university. Also, if you care about money I wouldn't recommend that career.


OK. I get your point, but I don't care that much about the money. If the (time) input amortizes, I'm fine, if not, then not. Like I said, it would be more a "pasttime", so I don't care, if I know this language perfect afterwards. The mentioned contacts aspect is a fact.

knox 08.28.2011 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the ikara cult
I had a housemate who was dedicated, disciplined, studious... and we both ended up getting the same grade. I felt guilty cos she worked so hard and id been so unreliable. Maybe im running myself down in retrospect, but it certainly felt that way.
troo on the second point. Im like that with exercise, i need other people to pressure me into doing it. But when it comes to learning stuff, im better left to my own devices. I hate people telling me what to do, but i like being told to do what im doing harder/faster/stronger


One time a japanese kid beat me up because I got better grades than she did despite spending my entire time sleeping and listening to music.

EVOLghost 08.28.2011 04:38 PM

Goin' back to University TOMORROW! AHHHHHHHHHHH. I should havefinished but I didn't. So now I am going to.

knox 08.28.2011 04:39 PM

Good luck EVOLghost

the ikara cult 08.28.2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
One time a japanese kid beat me up because I got better grades than she did despite spending my entire time sleeping and listening to music.


Last week i was talking to a Japanese girl and i said my name was Richard and she went "aaah.... DICK!"

knox 08.28.2011 04:57 PM

do you blame her?


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