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ink. 10.21.2010 01:33 PM

best free text html editor?
 
I used to always have crimson editor but it is a bit dated, is there a better option out there? I just have not looked in a long time...

:confused:

dont need wysiwyg, drag and drop etc, just want text based, but would like multiple windows open, preview windows, colour coded for css, html, php, javascript, etc etc... open source non spyware prefered haha.

atsonicpark 10.21.2010 01:54 PM

Just learn some html. It's really easy.
here
<title>PHOENIX RULES</TITLE>
<bODY BGCOLOR=BLACK>
<B>HI!</B><P>
<CENTER><fONT COLOR=RED>WE IS SEXY</FONT></CENTER><P>
<a HREF=http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip>cool board I post to</a><p><hr><p>Bye!

ink. 10.21.2010 02:01 PM

I know html, Im looking for an editor to re write some of our website in. Editors make it easier to move things around or de bug by colour coding tags, css, script, etc, and preview as you're changing :)

!@#$%! 10.21.2010 02:05 PM

atsonic, bgcolor was last used probably in 1999.
it's been all about css since then.

e.g.,

body { background-color:black; }

don't get me started on font tags...

stylesheet docs are separate files linked from header. this makes it easier to update styles while keeping structural html intact.

notepad or text editor are fine-- preview on chrome w/ developer tools

ink. 10.21.2010 02:09 PM

they really aren't fine, well, they're fine for smaller things, but as soon as you get past a page it starts to become tedious editing multiple pages and finding the same spots within them to replace or moving text around. Colour coding with editors and 'find/replace' functions and so on really help.

lol chrome.

firefox used to have an okay html editor/preview window but I kept going back to crimson because it was just a lot better for having multiple pages open and editing at once.

ink. 10.21.2010 02:10 PM

and actually I'm starting to have a lot of love for oldschool html pages you come across that haven't been edited since 97, because of its simplicity. There is only so much flashing moving disappearing dhtml one can take.

verme (prevaricator) 10.21.2010 02:11 PM

vim

!@#$%! 10.21.2010 02:11 PM

i use dreamweaver but mostly for the templates

ink. 10.21.2010 02:13 PM

vim seems too barebones for me these days :( I need to nerd back up.

ink. 10.21.2010 02:13 PM

lol dreamweaver.

!@#$%! 10.21.2010 02:14 PM

lol this thread

ink. 10.21.2010 02:15 PM

have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.

!@#$%! 10.21.2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ink.
have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.


templates are cake to edit and very cost-effective in terms of time use

i'm not talking about using a prefab template, but about template functionality & the ability to alter a site across the board, plus nested templates for subsections with their own structure-- it's good shit, a huge time saver, especially during a) initial tests ("should this be 2 or 3 column?"), b) redesigns

if it's good and clean and standards compliant template it can live forever, though it remains dependent on the software.

using a template to make a one-page site however would be stupid beyond words. though it could be helpful to someone who has no clue about coding. cs5's templates are pretty clean, considering.

Inhuman 10.21.2010 02:23 PM

I hate dreamweaver.

If you're looking for a free one, try notepad++ if yr on Windows.

On mac, I would highly recommend buying Coda if you're a more-than-casual coder. One of the best $100 I ever spent. Support is great, it's a no-bullshit program (no WYSIWYG or useless tools like Dreamweaver has), lightweight, beautiful.

nicfit 10.21.2010 02:25 PM

hay inhuman you have a message on facebook (how lame to type this stuff).

ink. 10.21.2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
templates are cake to edit and very cost-effective in terms of time use

i'm not talking about using a prefab template, but about template functionality & the ability to alter a site across the board, plus nested templates-- it's good shit, a huge time saver, especially during a) initial tests ("should this be 2 or 3 column?"), b) redesigns

if it's good and clean and standards compliant template it can live forever, though it remains dependent on the software.

using a template to make a one-page site however would be stupid beyond words. though it could be helpful to someone who has no clue about coding. cs5's templates are pretty clean, considering.


wasnt having a go at using/creating templates, just dreamweaver to edit them/change the parts you dont like if you are using someone elses.

Inhuman 10.21.2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ink.
have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.


The templates feature can be nice if someone's REALLY used to using it, but myself and everyone I know usually don't have a problem just duplicating one source file many times to define different templates.

I don't know how they do it these days since I avoid DW, but my impression from the CS3 version wasn't too too great. Adobe pwns with Photoshop and Illustrator. When they dabble with code, I've never liked their results

Inhuman 10.21.2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
hay inhuman you have a message on facebook (how lame to type this stuff).


Dang man, I'm sorry! It got lost in space. I'll reply now :D

ink. 10.21.2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman
I hate dreamweaver.

If you're looking for a free one, try notepad++ if yr on Windows.


perfect!!! thank you! :D I love the run-> multiple pre loaded browsers..

ink. 10.21.2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman
The templates feature can be nice if someone's REALLY used to using it, but myself and everyone I know usually don't have a problem just duplicating one source file many times to define different templates.


what I meant was I used to find the way dreamweaver handled opening/viewing/editing multiples to do this really clumsy and too many clicks. Honestly I haven't used it in 8 years though I was so turned off.


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