End Of An Era (ATP)
 

Who's going to which?

Part 1 (ATP & Primavera Sound):
Television performing Marquee Moon (UK exclusive)
Dinosaur Jr.
Les Savy Fav
Chelsea Light Moving (feat. Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore)
múm
Dinos Chapman
Oneohtrix Point Never
Wolf Eyes
Mike Watt
Hebronix
Forest Swords
BEAK>
The Haxan Cloak
Demdike Stare
Eraas

Part 2 (ATP & LOOP):
LOOP
The Pop Group
23 Skidoo
Fennesz
Edan (DJ set)
Dirty Beaches
Eaux
Hookworms
The KVB
Thought Forms

Probably going to go to both but if it comes down to it i'll choose the Loop one i'd imagine.

would love to go to both but it'll just be the Loop one in all likelihood.

Why are these the last ATP festivals in the UK? :(

They went bankrupt last year and had to downsize to camber sands from butlins. So I suspect it might be for financial reasons.

"Somewhat melancholy news reaches the Quietus offices this morning in the form of an email informing us that long-running festival hosts All Tomorrow's Parties are "calling time" on the holiday camp editions of the festival. The aim, they say, is to "allow ATP to focus on their growing schedule of city and international based events in 2014 and beyond."

In other words: they loose money on the holiday camp festivals, while the Ill be your mirror events are financially more secure.


I will probably go to the first one, since a lot of my friend will prefer that one. Might go to the second one as well.

I'll be going to the first one. Anyone want to share with me and cake?

I would, Stu. But I'll most likely I'll be moving to Vietnam in following 2 months' time (I got a job offer there), so all other plans are debatable.

tbh I've been expecting this since they started doing four festivals/year and with less and less interesting line ups as time goes by. If you compare The Tortoise, Autechre or SY ATPs of 10 years ago to the sort of thing they have now (e.g. Archers of Loaf reunion, constant recycling of 80s/90s bands etc) at a much larger (i.e worse) and more difficult to get to venue, it's two completely different festivals. It's a shame and everything, but all the things that made ATP interesting & exciting have gradually been lost as time went by, and now it barely stands out from the much cheaper and more convenient (and dull looking) stuff like Field Day.

Yeah I agree. I dunno why they ever thought 4 festivals a year was a good idea. However, I do still think they're capable of getting some great bands to play. This'll be my 8th time going to one and sure, it did start to feel like over-familiarity was kicking in, especially at Minehead, but nothing beat when you saw that great band you'd never even heard of and being blown away.

I guess the idea of Fugazi doing it is still a pipe dream!

For weekend one curated by ATP/Primavera

Godspeed You! Black Emperor,
Low, Tortoise, Magik Markers, Har Mar Superstar, Scout Niblett, Blanck Mass, Los Planetas, Standstill, Refree and Headbirds

Weekend curated by Loop

Mogwai, Balam Acab, White Fence, Ty Segall, Föllakzoid, Wolf People, Civil Civic, Tall Firs, Dawn Hunger, Kandodo, New War and DJ Jonathan Toubin.

booked and ready. For the Primavera one that is. SHIT IS GONNA GO OFF!

In all likelihood I won;t have the cash for this but if I did I got to the one Wolf Eyes are playing at

Is it a bad thing I feel it's a good thing this festival ceases to exist?

Party pooper! :p

Have you ever been to one?

No, I haven't. Too interested in boys and beer.

There's plenty of both of those at ATP...

You're my ATP. How about that?

lets be in contact about that, in case you get the cash, in case i get the cash.
also i saw you again in my dreams last night! smth with a lake, an english home and a sleeping dog.

Agreed!

GOAT
SUPERCHUNK
COMETS ON FIRE (reformed for this event)
GIRLS AGAINST BOYS
MICHAEL ROTHER presents the music of Neu! and Harmonia
OM

Announced for Loop

hey that's cool, the last time they toured was in 2008.
they were always a fun live band, so hopefully they'll add some more dates.

Agreed. We lost a thirty year tradition here in LA (The Ragga Muffins Bob Marley Festival) last year due to cost increases. The reality of great festivals is once they get too big, instead of making more profits and ensuring future success, the logistics of such large crowds (staffing, security, clean-up, parking) actually chunk into the profits so much that most festivals actually end up disbanding. Its a shame. The Hollywood Bowl is hosting its 12th Annual Reggae Night June 30, it will probably be their last one too.. Ever since 2006 when it first sold-out (21,000 PEOPLE WERE UNEXPECTEDLY THERE, up from the 10,000 averages) the Bowl panicked, they were caught logistically with their pants down. I bet the increased clean up bill for waste services alone was insane (all that trash, it costs MONEY to dump it) let alone the lapses in security and parking over-flow. So the next year? The Bowl DOUBLED the prices and DOUBLED the staffing. The show went smoothly, but the costs have went up EVERY year since, I think the writing is on the wall..

Slint announced for Loop

And Lee Ranaldo will be at the first weekend...

Shellac, The Dismemberment Plan, The Magic Band, Ut, Mick Turner (Dirty Three) and Les Colettes added to Loop

Shellac, Magic Band, UT and Mick Turner all should be great. Always felt the dismemberment plan were overrated.

If anybody has 1 spare ticket for the first weekend please let me know... I'm willing to pay more than face value...

i'm going to the 2nd one.

I'm going to neither, but don't pay through the nose, Stu!

Just be patient, the last few weeks before the festival there's always an abundance of spare tickets available.

Keep checking on here

http://www.scarletmist.com/

And on the ATP facebook page.

Final bands announced for Loop

Fuck Buttons
Winged Victory For The Sullen

Really looking forward to this now, weekend 2 looks much stronger than weekend 1 in my opinion.
Loop, 23 Skidoo, Pop Group, Comets on Fire, UT, Om, Mike Rother all should be great.

I have a spare ticket/bed for ATP end of an era part one if anyone wants it...

Bump

...So did no one mention the confluence of history with Lou Reed and ATP festival (named for VU song) both passing from this world within a month or so of each other?

I wish Michael Rother would play the west coast of USA, and that I could afford to go. Who is drumming for him now? Two big pairs of shoes to fill there, Klaus' and Steve's. Seems Mogwai are skipping us for the most part too. Maybe they know I'm broke right now? no shows planned right now...:(

I've now sold my spare tickets...

Stage times! http://www.atpfestival.com/newsview/1311151036.php

Heads up. On the ATP facebook page they say you have to bring your own duvets etc. as Pontins aren't providing any for free this time. Cunts.

There still provide duvets and pillows for free but they don't come with casses or covers.

Really? Well that's just stupid. Surely sheets are easier to clean than whole duvets. Derp.

ATP don't have the money to pay for the cleaning!

Good point. Well anyway the set times are just silly. Saturday is just clash central.

Who the hell puts Low on at 3 in the morning, and the house dj on at 3 in the afternoon?!