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tw2113 07.01.2020 01:46 AM

I'm still highly irritated by anyone claiming not voting is a vote for the person they oppose. NO IT'S NOT. What If I was going to vote for them IF I DID vote? Me staying home actually helps YOUR CANDIDATE because it's 1 less vote to surmount. Now, I know it would help MORE if I voted for your candidate, BUT me not voting doesn't automatically hurt that candidate.


I'm almost to the point where I'm willing to lie to everyone and get who they voted for and claim I voted for either the opposite, or voted the way they did, depending on my mood at the given moment, and how how much I valued their friendship. I dunno.


I will absolutely admit that I am a registered republican at the present time, who has never actually voted for a republican POTUS candidate in November. Way back in high school, circa 2001-2002 or so, they helped us register, I chose Independent, I wasn't paying attention at the time, though the party I chose could reflect otherwise.


I switched to republican for either the 2012 or 2016 primaries, I forget which. I need to re-change back to Independent. At present time, I'm not sure if I'm going to vote Democrat or vote Libertarian. I'm in the who gives a fuck state of South Dakota, as some of you may recall from past posts. As I recall, 2016 democrat and Independent voting stats didn't add up anywhere close to Trump's numbers, so it was again a who fucking cares how I voted case, there wasn't the combined numbers.


That said, 2020 happened, and it's be a what the fuck year, who knows what will actually happen. Thus I haven't committed to one party or the other, but I'll be damned and may any deity you believe in strike me down with thunder and death succeeding corona if I'm voting for Trump in 2020. Dude is getting the biggest blowjob in history from the GOP, but I refuse to actually contribute to him getting a 4 more years longer blowjob from his yes people.

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Some people in this country (and this thread) are going to need some serious deprogramming when Trump is done.


The derangedness is gonna stay there. Remember the Teabaggers? Birthers? Churchers? It all happened under Barack Obama's presidency. They couldn't stand seeing a black man in charge, they were told that's not how you overcome a brutal recession, that your granny was gonna have to go after the "death panels" gave her the thumbs-down...

Look, the Republican credo —"small government", magical tax cuts, imaginary friends— is one thing. WHY MUST THAT MEAN SUPPORTING A MONSTER LIKE TRUMP. Why is it so hard to say, yes, I'm a Republican, I believe Reagan's bullshit, but I won't stand for an egregriously racist, misogynistic, authoritarian, treasonous, willfully ignorant turd of a person who governs by tweet and says/does a crazy fucked-up thing daily/hourly to stay in the news loop? The two or three people in this board who vocally (and passionately, as it turns out) back him are gone, there's no deprogramming possible.

h8kurdt 07.01.2020 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Today I copied a handwritten letter for a customer that talked about a "liberal socialist dictatorship power-grab" and if you aren't voting for Trump in November, don't vote at all.

Some people in this country (and this thread) are going to need some serious deprogramming when Trump is done.


Don't be counting your chickens just yet. There's more than a fair share of people who will vote for him no matter what.

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Don't be counting your chickens just yet.


Old maid
We're not getting any younger
So wait
You can count your chickens
When you get laid


Glenn Kotche's least favorite Wilco song. :D

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 11:05 AM

https://43alumniforjoebiden.com/

Yeah, but I want NAMES (besides Colin Powell). Otherwise this is a pretty tame endorsement.

GeneticKiss 07.01.2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
The derangedness is gonna stay there. Remember the Teabaggers? Birthers? Churchers? It all happened under Barack Obama's presidency. They couldn't stand seeing a black man in charge, they were told that's not how you overcome a brutal recession, that your granny was gonna have to go after the "death panels" gave her the thumbs-down...

Look, the Republican credo —"small government", magical tax cuts, imaginary friends— is one thing. WHY MUST THAT MEAN SUPPORTING A MONSTER LIKE TRUMP. Why is it so hard to say, yes, I'm a Republican, I believe Reagan's bullshit, but I won't stand for an egregriously racist, misogynistic, authoritarian, treasonous, willfully ignorant turd of a person who governs by tweet and says/does a crazy fucked-up thing daily/hourly to stay in the news loop? The two or three people in this board who vocally (and passionately, as it turns out) back him are gone, there's no deprogramming possible.

Because Reagan's appeal lay in many of those things; "welfare queens", calling the Soviet Union an "evil empire" to justify pouring millions into the military, ignoring the AIDS epidemic. The biggest difference was Reagan was more soft-spoken about it. At the end of the day the goal of the Republican party in the modern age is domination of the "sinful" (poor, black/brown, LGBT) by the "righteous" (rich male WASPs) at home and making the rest of the world subservient to US interests.

Removing Trump may not mortally wound his ideology, but it would give it a good scar it'd do well to not forget how it got it.

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Removing Trump may not mortally wound his ideology, but it would give it a good scar it'd do well to not forget how it got it.


Back in February (shit, that feels like a decade ago), there was a bit about this point on Fareed Zakaria's newsletter (not written by FZ; the links to the originals articles by Stephen Walt and Joshua Zeitz are included):

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Things May Not Go Back to ‘Normal’ After Trump

At Foreign Policy, Stephen Walt recently ticked off an exhaustive list of autocratic-style transgressions he sees President Trump as having perpetrated (or having nearly done so): Intimidating the media, politicizing the military, rewarding favored constituencies, and demonizing the opposition are all included.

Troubling as Walt’s assessment may be, Joshua Zeitz argues in Politico Magazine that whatever one thinks of Trump’s departures, the presidency may not go back to “normal” so easily after him, as our conception of “normal” is relatively recent. “[i]t’s pretty reasonable to expect that presidents not misdirect law enforcement and civilian officials to do their political bidding, that presidents be transparent with the media, and that courts remain free of political influence,” he writes. “The point, rather, is that these norms were not timeless features of our system.”

J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI surveilled Martin Luther King, Jr. during Lyndon Johnson’s presidency, Nixon took things to new levels by trying to turn federal agencies on opponents, and open press access is a modern phenomenon, Zeitz writes; most of the norms we now take for granted only evolved after Watergate. “Much like an unwritten constitution, political culture evolves contingently, and presidents—especially in recent decades—enjoy sweeping ability to leave a lasting imprint on that culture,” he writes. “They also have broad authority to smash old ways of doing things.”

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 01:14 PM

Trump's white evangelical approval slips, Pew finds, but 82 PERCENT still likely to vote for him

Repugnant filthy phony hypocritical FUCKS.

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 03:07 PM

 

h8kurdt 07.01.2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi


It's a crazy old world. Only have to look at Bytor and ol' Bobby here to realise that people can shown evidence after evidence of the absolute scumminess of Trump and they'll never change their minds on him.

Worst thing is the evangelist and religious nuts saying Trump has been sent by God. I mean...the fuck...

!@#$%! 07.01.2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
religious nuts saying Trump has been sent by God.

sent by god to wipe out america? it’s fucking working...

The Soup Nazi 07.01.2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
It's a crazy old world. Only have to look at Bytor and ol' Bobby here to realise that people can shown evidence after evidence of the absolute scumminess of Trump and they'll never change their minds on him.

Worst thing is the evangelist and religious nuts saying Trump has been sent by God. I mean...the fuck...


The worst, actually, are all the fuckers among that 82% who KNOW VERY WELL Trump is an irredeemable waste of oxygen who has broken, is breaking, and will break every single "commandment" in the "good book" but will also, with Bitch McConnell's invaluable help, appoint judges and officials who will fight the right of a woman to decide what happens with her own body, of a black person to BREATH and not get shot in their own house while playing with their son, of a gay person to marry the one they love; and who will uphold and deepen the institutionalized corruption known as Super PACs. Whatever, or, rather, whomever it takes, right?

EVOLghost 07.02.2020 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Worst thing is the evangelist and religious nuts saying Trump has been sent by God. I mean...the fuck...


Yeah. I read a lot of comments with this sentiment on a FB page. It was wild...

Bytor Peltor 07.02.2020 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Yeah. I read a lot of comments with this sentiment on a FB page. It was wild...


Did It Sound A Little Something Like This?

_tunic_ 07.02.2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor



What a load of bullcrap that is!
Is his name really called Dutch Sheets? My country should sue him !!


 

Bytor Peltor 07.02.2020 09:15 AM

The Democrats were holding out hopes for another round of impeachment hearings before November over the NOTHING-NADA-ZILCH Secret Russia Mueller Report......ha ha ha!

Justices keep hold on secret Russia investigation material

”Democrats have suggested that the grand jury materials could reveal new misconduct that could potentially form the basis of new articles of impeachment“

Bytor Peltor 07.02.2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
What a load of bullcrap that is!
Is his name really called Dutch Sheets? My country should sue him !!


 


I have no clue as I’ve never heard his name before!

EVOLghost 07.02.2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor



I have no idea what the hell went on in that video.

anyone who thinks Americans are “God’s chosen people” needs a lobotomy. That type of thinking does ABSOLUTELY no good.

The Soup Nazi 07.03.2020 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk


Yeah, 'cause he's the one who has to take swift decisive action, not the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

Fuck off and die already, imbecile.

The Soup Nazi 07.03.2020 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Yet he was in a position to call President Trump out on this issue, was he not?

He was in a position to humiliate President Trump on this issue, and confront him with yet further evidence of collusion with Russia!

Why did he not?


Oh, you wanted him to? Because you're whining -in an egregiously shitty attempt at sarcasm- that he didn't call out your Dear Leader... Problem is, it was an issue that now your Dear Leader admits it's real but first said it wasn't then said nobody told him then said he didn't believe it.

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
:p


Sticking out your tongue is pretty pathetic for a 62-year-old. But now that you have, shove it up your ass and DIE OF AMOEBIASIS YOU FILTHY FUCK.


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