https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yxoPQMauQTs

I keep trying to figure out if this is SNL/Baldwin or not.

aaaand, a little background on the new CDC guy who was so "dear leader" effusive in his Trimptaint kissy

Helpful Reminder: Trump's CDC Guy Thought AIDS Was 'God's Judgment' For Gay People Existing

https://www.wonkette.com/helpful-rem...eople-existing

man he really has tiny hands look at his left hand. tiny!

Baldwin couldn't look that fugly after 6 hours in the makeup room

I love how he keeps accusing other people of politicising the virus, but he wears that fucking hat at this so-called press conference. That's just one of a hundred things you could say about this absolute shitshow.

he’s the president of the 33%

I fear that it is closer to 50%. This will go down as one the great mysteries/debacles of our times. How can such an incompetent asshole have so much support? I realize that this thread has tried to distill this subject throughout its hundreds of pages. But my brain still cannot process it.

i don’t think so.

some people are willing to tolerate him because “the economy” or fear of “socialism” but i think a moderate front can crush him

sure he might be willing to start a nuclear war for popularity but we’ll see how things develop

A moderate front lead by Joe Biden?

we like to live dangerously i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm honestly confused. I accept that while Sanders might have a very dedicated following he won't' convince enough of the country as a whole. But are we watching the same coverage? While it may be crude/insensitive to say so, I've seen too much to be able to deny that Biden has senile dementia. It's actually uncomfortable to watch. I'd go as far as to say that someone really needs to make a decision on his behalf and withdraw him from the race altogether, even if that means Sanders gets the gig by default.

I dunno, maybe somewhere in the system the Dems had a candidate really able to challenge Trump but the internal bullshit and distractions within the party this last 3 years means they're left with who they're left with. So in the circumstances, and considering I see it as a no-win situation regardless of who they choose, I say give it to Sanders. Not just to save Biden further humiliation but because if Sanders is thrashed in November at least it'll take a considerable amount of wind out of the sails of the activist wing of the party which might be precisely what the Dems need if they're to return to some kind of political reality in time for 2024, when Trump will no longer even be a thing.

that animal is causing irreparable damage right now, and i don’t think it’s really possible for anyone here to strategize to some distant future as some sort of political game.

i know this looks like sport and abstractions to you but from our perspective lives and democracy itself are at stake. he’s our caligula. we’re getting fucked up.

and by 2024 we’ll have new supremes. rgb can’t last forever. thurgood marshall tried his best and couldn’t.

as for biden, he’s been fighting a stutter since he was 4. so that accounts for his speech problems. yes, he is old, but he’s not a fucking maniac. his pick of vp will be crucial here.

I actually do share your concerns. Joe is clearly past his best-before date, and I hate to say that, because I believe that he is decent and honest person. Is 8 years of Trump going to be the thing that finally gets the Dems shit together? Can we afford that? (Hang in there, Ruth.)

I swear I didn't see this post when I made mine!! :)

I disagree with your other points but I do at least see your logic. But on the issue of Biden's mental state, I can tell the difference between someone fighting a stutter and senile dementia, and while I can also see why the party and certain media sources are working flat out covering for him over this, let's not fool ourselves that it's anything other than what it is.

since we’re dealing with an A/B choice let’s not fool ourselves that president dead zone is in full possession of his faculties.

I've watched both of them give speeches in recent weeks. God knows there's plenty about Trump to take issue with but nothing to indicate he's senile. An egomaniac, without doubt, but not senile. I'm not echoing anyone's view here, I'm just saying what I see. Put Biden on a stage with Trump and I'm convinced he'll be eaten alive.

trump was already crazy before he was old

see you at the debates

Again, I mostly agree with you. But I have been astounded by some of Trump's appearances, health-wise. Look at any interview with Trump from even just 10 years ago, and compare. Omarosa did have a point!

Every time I watch Trump speak I assume he's taken a big bump of coke beforehand. Assuming he is a bit of a fiend, that's obviously a problem for someone with his kind of responsibilities, nor will it be doing him any good physically. But somehow, whatever you might think of his policies, or his manner, he's holding it together better than i think a lot of even his most committed supporters might've privately thought when he 1st took office.

But maybe I'm wrong on that. As symbols says, I don't see the day to day stuff. In which case If Trump really is that fucked then I'm sure a party as big and established as the Dems can brush him aside in November, no problem.