I dont think you were objectifying genteel_death, whom i dont take seriously for a number of reasons that are of no interest to anyone, but if the best response you have to a gay man is "Well we know why YOU watch it" then your "humour" is about as sophisticated as The Merry Old Wives of Windsor (Yes, i can reference Shakespeare too).

Crude yes, but spiteful? No. I'm not going to drag out some kind of self-aggrandizing defense, I said what I said, folks who know will know, folks who don't won't, and therefore it is what is. I know where I stand in the world and if others don't I can't persuade them otherwise if they've already made their own prejudiced opinions based off my known religion and culture. Now can we get back to the Olympics or skateboarding rather then let this devolve into some kind hyperbole saturated tirade. If folks want to know why the forum is dying, its because everybody is either so damned serious all the time (myself included) or the opposite, but rarely do we talk about music any more or sonic youth anymore. Is there another SonicYouth forum I can join?

I dont think youre guilty of lowering the tone on here in general actually, there are far worse culprits than you who arent capable of a discussion, hence why i maybe felt it was ok to point it out. And as i sided with Knox when i felt there were stupid things said, i would feel like a bit of a hypocrite if i didnt side with Porky if something stupid is said as well.
Or would you prefer i posted some gratuitous pornography instead?

Edit: And also, i think im arguing with YOU in particular, why do you assume that there are swathes of people being put off posting who all see things the same way as you do?

So you are selective in your defense of objectification? How hypocritical. I knew you weren't to be trusted as an individual, but now it's so transparent you only align with the oppressed in order to make yourself feel better. Disgusted.

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In fairness, when ive said "I dont think you were objectifying Genteel_Death" there, I was responding to Suchy's other post, and that doesnt explain what i mean in full. It was an objectifying thing to say, and I did have a go at him for making that cheap jibe at you, I wouldnt have chimed in if i didnt think there was something crass about it. So all past grievances aside, that was a clarification that I should have made

you are naive because you can't tell when a person is being serious or not.

worse still, you can't tell when someone is being a liar, if you read suchfriends' posts better.

See above

Too Late The Ikara Cult. Too Late. We Can't Tolerate It Anymore.

I don;t consider it an authentic competitive sport. skating is about feel, and attitude, and style, and that is more of an arts competition, not an athletic competition. I don't think ballroom dancing, for all it's athleticism, is a sport either. Just because competitions are held does not make it a sport.
There has to be a real quantifiable measure of competition. This is why I think events that are judged by a panel should not be in the Olympics. That includes diving, gymnastics, and ice skating. The corruption is rampant, and there is no verifiable way to tell who won or who lost.

In high jump, whoever jumps highest wins. In discus, whoevere throws farthest wins. In wrestling, whoevere pins the other one first wins. in racing, whoever finishes first wins. These are quantifiable measures. while I love to see good diving, and good gymnastics, I find the model for competition very lacking. the same is true for skating events, except maybe for the "biggest air" competition.


skateboarding competitions are, and you know this, fake events designed to promote the culture and sell product.

The Olympics have goddamn TRAMPOLINE as an event! and now no wrestling!

Darts clearly needs to replace it. Now there's a mans sport.

Well fair enough. I felt a cheap point had been made, and even though it was made against you, i felt it merited responding to. You pointed out that i said something inconsistent in my responding to it, and im happy to acknowledge you were right. You wanna frame that and put it on the mantlepiece, more power to you.

Why do you not just admit you pontificate on political issues just because of personal sympathies and be done with it? Honestly, I'd have more respect for you if you did.

Also, look at this website: http://stuffwhitebritslike.co.uk/

You are there, somewhere.

and which personal sympathies are these?

Why are you asking me of all people?

Because you just said you know the basis of my opinions.