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Check our cool documentary-Girls Rock!
Hey folks, thought you all might be interested in checking out this documentary we're making on the Rock 'n' Roll Camp for Girls. You can see a trailer and join the community at http://www.girlsrockmovie.com . We're aiming for a release in 2007.
Aside from the amazing music the girls make on their empowering journey, there's also a great soundtrack of women rockers featuring: Bikini Kill Sonic Youth Le Tigre Sleater Kinney The Gossip Rainier Maria The Donnas Veruca Salt |
Do you not think it is actually less empowering by shoving it in peoples faces? Nobody cares that yr a woman in music anymore, they just wanna see/hear you rockin' it.
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Does every journey these days have to be empowering!?
It's all you hear on reality tv--how their "journey" and their "transformation" and "experience" was such an enlightening and empowering journey. Sometimes an experience is just an experience and it's not a journey to self-discovery and transformation, you know. Ugh. Could you taken a lessen in marketing before shoving this at us, or at least come up with a more creative tagline. We're very critical here. |
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No, I think he was agreeing with the Internet. I'll check my browser. Yes, it says he was agreeing.
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that feminist crap is..crap.
i like the featured bands, because they just sound good, esp. sy, bikini kill, sleater kinney, what about the babes or bratmobile, shannon wright a.o. ? ..hm.. and as mentioned before..bands are bands, artists are artists, what matters is that you like what they create, not who or what they are, right ? |
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I think being The Future is better than being The Internet. Why didn't somebody tell me that one was open?
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i am checking it on youtube because I HATE having to watch it in such a little screen. But as far as I've seen...it's not very promising.
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I hate shit like this. Rock 'schools' and whatnot. You can't LEARN rock and roll at a fucking camp or whatever. Like that piece of shit Jack Black movie where he was all 'listen to the ramones, wear converse, gibson sgs rule'. I can't believe Jim O'Rourke worked on that horrible movie, or that the kid's band practiced at Murray Street.
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hey all you haters. i've never been one to be called a feminist, but if you're a girl and you walk into a big guitar store, you will soon find out that the people who work there pay you a whole lot less attention and certainly give you a lot less respect.
and i did a ladies rock camp this summer, which was a fundraiser for the girls rock camp, and it was one of the best experiences of my life. a lot of times you just need to do something like that to see kind of how easy it is to write a song, because the whole process just sounds intimidating. our camp was one weekend - met on a friday, wrote a song on saturday, played a concert on sunday, and it totally ruled. i met a drummer there who is in my band now, which i never would have had the guts to start if i hadn't gone to that camp. the empowerment thing isn't about "i can't believe i'm a girl and i'm doing this - i rock," it's just more of the doing something for yourself aspect that's empowering. i only started playing bass in march and i actually have a band now. i'm still in disbelief. here's the article in the ny metro about my camp weekend this past summer. http://ny.metro.us/metro/local/artic...rock/3705.html i'll continue to support the girls rock thing because it's something i wish would have been around when i was little, because i can't do a damn thing with the gymnastics i learned. |
Anybody can walk into a guitar store and not get respect or attention, as people who work at guitar stores know everything about everything and can play better than anybody who walks through the door. Well that's the mentality they have anway.
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I don't agree with you in that. I don't know why that is that way in wherever you live, but it's definetely not like that over here... And also...why are you in desbelief that you have a band because of being a girl? I mean, I am not the best thing you'll have ever heard playing music and still I have at least 10 persons wanting to start a project with me, which is quite weird but I said yes to all of their proposals. |
i'm not in disbelief i'm in a band because i'm a girl - it's just something i didn't think i could do. it sounds a lot harder than it is. i learned that it wasn't all that hard through the camp. there were people there who had never picked up a guitar in their life and played a show on stage. that was the cool part.
it was a nice way for girls to strip down their natural competitiveness and work together instead of against each other. i shave my legs. i let boys pick up heavy stuff for me. i don't feel like i'm treated like a lesser person in general because i'm a girl. but at the guitar store i went into (guitar center on 14th street in manhattan), i got the distinct impression that the reason i was being ignored was because they looked at me and assumed i couldn't play because i'm a girl. they did see me there, obviously interested, and chose to ignore me. it's not that way at all guitar stores i've been in, but that was the impression i got at this particular one, and i'd never actually had an impression like that before. it shocked me. maybe i shouldn't have made it a generalization that it's like that for everyone, but it was definitely like that for me. and i'm really shocked by all the negativity in this thread about something that is really a positive thing for girls - the fact that it's "for girls" and bothers people so much might be a testament to what you're railing against. |
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thewall - perhaps they perceieved you as being too young , too old , too pale , too poor , too wealthy , too attractive , too ugly for their comfort levels and so give you little attention . how is it you know its because youre a girl ? it just soudns like the insecurity about being a female is coming from YOU , not them .
plus , you said that this guitar shop was in fact an exception - the only shop out of a bunch that treated you this way , no matter what the "assumption" was on . if this is true , then why would you take it personally, onto a level of your sex+gender , assuming that theres this problem in the world where chicks dont get equal treatment in music and not see just those individuals as sheepfuckers ? i dont like to corner people when theres already people critisizing but i am tired of chicks assuming all this , and inventing this gender-barrier when the problems are mostly based on other things, like self-assuredness and personal security . as humans . Oh , but, also, i think i understand about the rock camp that you went to . and i think its great . id love to go to some sort of music workshop , and i would totally feel intimidated . i dont believe, though ,that theres a problem with being a shy insecure girl that discovered the skill of songwriting , but perhaps there was an issue with being a shy insecure girl . anythign we're not familiar with can be intimidating , especialy in skills that we hold with high respect like music or art , so its easy to be intimidated by those that can perform them well . |
sounds interesting
id love to check this out |
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The whole thing sounds so phony, though. They picked every cliche 'grrrl' band they could. It sounds like that Yo La Tengo video where they go to band school. |
Wow, I'm amazed by all the negativity in this thread, and honestly it just reaffirms why this camp is so necessary. Guys, for the most part, are ignorant fucks when it comes the life of girls in this culture. Most wouldn't know what it means to be a girl if they were forced to answer with a gun to their heads. I know, because I'm a guy and I made this movie and I was an ignorant fuck too. Anyone who looks at a trailer and a tagline and starts making up all kinds of stupid crap up about how corny and cliche the whole enterprise is, is obviously already carrying around the kind of crap that girls have to confront everyday. This kind of alacrity to shut down anyone who dares to assert that girls are worth celebrating is alarming, especially on a site dedicated to a band that has helped to break down so many barriers. Do any of you even know who Kim Gordon is for chrissake? For all of you who think it's all the same, and doesn't matter if it's boys or girls or whatever stupid shit, when we called Sonic Youth to license a song for our documentary, we were actually accidentally given Kim Gordon's home number. She called us back, and after telling her about the project, she actually brought up the fact that we were asking to license Sugarcane, which doesn't feature her singing. "Kind of ironic that it's a song a guy is singing, doncha think?" she said. We were shocked we hadn't thought of that, had just been looking for some feedback sounds. So we picked Kool Thing instead.
On top of that, Sonic Youth is a big supporter of the camp. I guess alot of you aren't really here cause you're Sonic Youth fans, so that kind of thing probably won't matter to you much, that Kim Gordon herself would be aware of the need to feature female voices. Maybe you should email her directly and tell her you wish she'd stop supporting girls. Better yet, since it's so easy to be courageously "critical" and outspoken on the internet, why don't you try yelling some of this crap at her at the next Sonic Youth show you go get baked at? For the woman who went to Ladies Rock Camp, cheers for being the dissenting voice in this load of adolescent crap, sorry it took me so long to get back here and get your back. I had no idea that a band as thoughtful, revolutionary and against the grain would inspire such an insipid and culturally mainstream bunch of Maxim-fed piddle. |
I'll drop the guitar store thing because it was my own personal experience and my own impressions, which could very well be misplaced, but the fact that not one person could concede that there's a possibility that the guy treated me that way because I was a girl is at least a little bit surprising. Instead I get to be psychoanalyzed by strangers that it's more plausible that it must be my shyness and insecurity that cause this insane delusion. But I'm sticking to my delusion.
I hope a ton of shy and insecure girls go to this camp after this movie and get the chance to overcome these (female?) character flaws through music the way that I did. |
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"For the most part" depends on which group of guys and what year(s) you are referring towards there. The negativity you are picking up on is fairly commonplace here, but it would help your cause if you were clearer on a number of points. You honestly come off as a fairly cheesy person. I'm sure you'll make time for The Slits and Patti Smith Group, naturally. I'll wait until this documentary comes out and there's no Yoko Ono, The Runaways, Joan Jett & the Blackhearts, Kate Bush, Laurie Anderson or Yoshimi in this movie. Then, I'll use my negativity to further elucidate on how you are ignorant. |
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(i am a girl and) I like alot of the idea's behind this and i agree with alot of what you have to say, but dont come onto our message board and be so fucking rude to us. FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!! twat. Quote:
you are only getting less respect because you don't demand it. If you act like a little shy girl then most men will treat you that way. |
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On behalf of the board, WE ARE FAMILY. Whether we're Sonic Youth fans or not, we all once were (or still are like me), that's what connects us all. I meant to neg rep you, but I accidentally brought you to 5 bars. Cheers! |
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We are a big dysfunctional family. |
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Hey, I'm a big fan of all the above women...Been to see Patti and Laurie Anderson in concert many times, but this movie isn't about them. It's about the girls at the Rock 'n' Roll Camp for girls. The bands I mentioned are just on the soundtrack, and they were picked because their songs fit a particular moment in the film, not because we're ignoring anyone. In fact, most of the music in the movie comes from the girls. And I've been called many terrible things in my life, but "cheesy"? Wow, that hurts. And thanks for deciding ahead of time that I'm ignorant, and then going to see the movie to support that. |
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Can someone please explain to me where I am represented as a little shy girl? I'm not getting that. One stranger labels me that way, and another assumes it to be true. |
Yeah, I was wondering if that was the case. It's only about the girls at the rock camp then. Good luck with that. I suppose your distributors and/or investors are really keen on suicidegirls.com or something.
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I think that this has all ready been said before, but fuck it I'm saying it again. I have a vagina and there's only been a few times that I've been treated differently because of it. But thats not uncommon. Prejiduce based on skin, gender, race, or culture isn't uncommon at all and, yeah, thats sad but we're human. Humans do shit like that... and the more people pout about it the more ignorant others are going to become. I hardly ever confront sexist jerks (its faaar away from being daily), and frankly I could careless when I do. I strongly believe in karma and its usually the sexist jerks that don't get pussy untill college anyway. |
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And the is when they spike the girls drink and date rape her. |
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I think you posted at the wrong time. The board is going through one of its negative ignorant periods at the moment. (This doesn't apply to evrybody of course). Good luck with the project. |
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Exactly! You know this from experience, I'm sure. |
it is like that everywhere. women are treated as a JOKE when they try to rock, and you know it man.
more power to them, shit, I wish I was at a rock camp and SCHOOL OF ROCK RULED ALL!!!!  |
Sorry I am gay I don't touch chicks.
I want to see this movie, I have not said anything negative about it. |
for real though, best of luck with the project and all future projects and here's to more women ROCKING
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Thats not true. Maybe where you're from, but where I'm from women are treated fairly equal to men when it comes to bands. Even though most of the local bands equally suck and are equally treated as a joke, ragaurdless of the number of cocks and pussies in the band. |
you are lucky
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The comments I made came from a place of ignorance because I didn't really read girlsrockmovie's posts carefully. I was trying to write while doing something else at the same time and was in a rush. I should have waited until I had time to read properly. Instead, I was going by the replies in the thread too much. I still don't like the soundtrack choices (the only one worth a damn is Sonic Youth - Kool Thing), but fluff sells, so what is one to do?
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