Paris Hilton's album
 

this is a thread for the pop music fans here, i know you all hate her and she sucks, etc etc. so spare me the comments unless they are witty and extremely insulting.

i got really curious after i heard a song from her and it wasn't unlistenable, it was actually really good, so i downloaded the album and i have to say that i was very surprised. half the song are very well written pop ditties that have been lacking lately, well put together, catchy, fresh and well orchestrated; the other half of the album is just hilarious, songs about how rich she is, how hot she is, how famous she is, how many times she can say "that's hot" in a song, it's so over the top it's funny as hell, when she tries to sound horny, she ends up embarrasing herself but, isn't embarrasing herself part of the paris hilton experience so far? the apex of this, though, it's her cover of the immortal dirty wedding stopper "do ya think i'm sexy?", that one is beyond words.

so, anyone else heard the album? i know it's one of those things you pass up before giving it a chance, i actually would have written it off completely if i hadn't heard a song from it, but it's really a surprise here. sonic youth should listen to it.

Man, Paris Hilton SUCKS!!!!!!! You fucking SUCK!!!!! SUCK!!!!!!!

By which I mean, no I haven't heard the album, I assumed the single was a fluke. It was a fucking brilliant single though. I might check out the album.

One of the great things about proper pop albums is that they usually take less than 6 months to appear in charity/ second-hand shops. Because of you, Mr N, I will be checking the album out soon. But only if you tell me that you love Avril or Shakira.

My Paris Hilton tshirt shall be arriving in the post soon.

Is that a t-shirt with a picture of her, or one that she used to wear?

i love avril!! don't you remember those threads? it's really that...it's weird that the really good pop stuff is sometimes the one that isn't super popular.

she has everything against herself, i mean, she is paris hilton after all, most people are not going to take her seriously at all.

With her face on it.Smiling.

"Stars are Blind" honestly isn't bad. It's cheap (Paris, why does this song sound cheap?) reggae with pretty fairly whispered vocals. The part near the end where she sings "Excuse me for feeling..." sends me.

The thing is she's super rich and should have offered this record for free. Agreed?

Here's a glowing All Music Guide review - It's four paragraphs long and four and a half starred. And here's a paragraph from the review...

Make no mistake, Paris is a very good pop album, at times deliberately reminiscent of Blondie, Madonna, and Gwen Stefani, yet having its own distinct character — namely, Paris' persona, which is shamelessly shallow and devoid of any depth. Where that might be irritating within a movie or within pop culture at large, when placed in a shiny, hooky dance-pop album it works splendidly, particularly because the songs are strong and Storch and company know how to keep things light — and everybody involved knows that it's fun to play around with Paris' image, no matter if it's her murmuring "that's hot" at the beginning of the record or covering Rod Stewart's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy," or writing about her feud with Nicole Ritchie on the delightful "Jealousy." But for as much as Paris is about Paris, she doesn't necessarily stand out here; her voice — which is almost certainly auto-tuned and tweaked by a computer, yet it's nevertheless appealing, more so than Britney Spears' often awkward squawk — may blend into the production, yet that actually helps the recordings since it emphasizes the melodies above everything else. And there are some irresistible melodies here: the breezy "Stars Are Blind," the gilded rush of "I Want You" driven by a "Grease" sample, the sweet "Time After Time" rewrite "Heartbeat," and the great power pop of "Screwed," for starters.

My favorite pop song at the moment is Fergie's "Fergilicious". She has the most delicious rapping voice. The song is basically a rip-off of the underrated "My Humps". Is it the fact that she refers to her butt as a lump that drives people crazy?

Shit, sorry dude. My memory is rubbish. I should've remembered given that I have you in my mental list of people with trustable taste (and good English).

Yeah, I really hate Paris Hilton 'no-mark celebrity' persona, but her song was unbelievably good. I think it helps that she's not really a 'singer' singer, and she doesn't try any of the histronics that a lot of people do. Christina A I have problems with, sometimes she does brilliant stuff, other times I can't be dealing with all the up and down the scales stuff. Same for Mariah C.

christina has been going downhill since her spanish album, i can't really listen to her anymore, but her debut? brilliant. mariah is a song by song basis for me.

i actually laughed out loud for like 3 minutes (the duration of the song) when i heard "fergielicious", why is she so jealous of gwen stefani?

Man, I'm jealous of Gwen Stefani. 'ho''s got crazy style. Although, I might be a little bit more jealous of David Letterman. Here's a link to a bunch of photos proving why I am (and why you should be)...

I was watching this programme about celebrity legs last week and Gwen's came out as being highly coveted by a lot of girls and other celebs.

Girls are really, really smart.

Anyone could have made this Paris album or whatever. She obviously did not write any of the songs herself and her vocals have some major post production going on.

My point is: you get the best pop song writers in the industry and a decent producer and ANYONE could have a #1 pop album. Paris just happens to be rich and famous for being rich, so its "her" album.

Anyone with two hands and a passable singing voice could've made any of the Ramones' albums.

I actually heard the song and she sings quite good, she does seem to have a singing voice, not like Ashlee Simpson.

where has pink gone. we need more transvision vamp wanna be kids in the pop parade.

long live debbie gibson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair if you throw enough money around you can get a great song written for you.

my point exactly in the original post of this thread, i said that her good songs on the album are things i haven't heard in a long time. the fact is, paris hilton is not the only girl who can get "the best pop songwriters in the industry" and a "decent producer", but she's the only one who has made a record of well written memorable songs (for the most part of it) instead of christina aguilera or jessica simpson, who are pop singers by career.

but yeah, this post is retarded. WELL DUH! it's no big news popsters don't write their songs and have heavy post production, that's what a COMMERCIAL POP album is. if you'd ask me, the majority of rock and indie rock would be better off having someone writing their songs.

and the thing, her album didn't and will probably never get to number one, while something completely horrid and badly done (like, say, robbie williams in the uk or p diddy in the states) will surely sell millions of copies.

now go wallow on the thought that my bloody valentine will never get back together.

I heard a few songs off of the album before it came out and really couldn't stand hearing them again. I actually don't have anything against paris hilton, I just didn't really like the music. Stars are blind is good though, screwed is ok, but some off the ones with hip hop artists on there are unbearable to me.

i found those the most hilarious.

That's probably why, I wasn't looking at it in a humoristic light.

The first single of Paris Hiltons album was the jam but wasn't too big on the second one.

Any fans of pop music trying to have attitude check out the Veronics. Twins from Brisbane, Australia making sassy pop, full of power-chords. They write at least some of their songs. In one video they spray paint a ex-lovers car and their latest song is called "I'm a revolution".

the secret life of the veronicas = pop album of the year contender (along with lilly allen's alright still)

But nobody did. And nobody has. The point is, Paris Hilton is a disgusting fucking whore who did not write the music, lyrics, or anything, and who's voice has been alterned by mechanical means, and it saddens and sickens me that people here would rather listen to this utter filth than, oh, say... Rather Ripped.

Trendy Hip-Hop Minimalist Bass-Heavy Beat Production meets Geeky, Skateboarder Vans-Worship

Here's a link the video for The Pack's simple and simply hypnotic debut single "Vans"

they are uncomparable, you can't really judge the paris hilton album against a sonic youth album, that's like comparing a pacemaker with cotton candy. in it's league, the paris album is something good and hilarious at the same time, and the thing is that it's not supposed to be that, it should sound like a lindsay lohan or an ashley simpson album but it doesn't, it's actually far better in at least two different levels.

and i don't like paris hilton as a public person, i don't buy into her and her celebrity being, that's why i was mopre surprised about it.

rather ripped on the other hand, can be and almost will be judged against a creteria of 20-plus (major and otherwise) releases by the same band, as well as albums that have come out ever since the release of sonic nurse, and with that criteria, i think that album is mediocre, half-assed, like if they rushed the whole thing to get it out on time and go on tour without a care for the songwriting process.

paris hilton knows it would be a waste of time if she were to write songs because she doesn't know, furthermore, it's the standard m.o. of major labels dealing with pop singer to pursue outside songwriters. when noisemachine or someone else said that that album could be anyone's, he is right, her a&r and managers and perhaps herself selected these songs, but they ended up in her album, and that's what makes it good, there's a craft to doing a pop song and these songs are very well done, unlike much of pop which tries to pass up on half assed songs "sung" by singers with just attitude and celebrity scandals, which paris might have resorted to, but she didn't; that's what's surprising.

whatever the case, the album could be a stinking bowl of self-obsessed ditties with unfinished hooks and little to no arrangements, but the powers that be aimed for something else with a little quality and they succeeded in delivering an album with enough good songs to top the charts (which is unlikely that will happen), unlike a certain new york band who strived to put together a bunch of songs and did photoshopped red and black cover to pass off as a contract obligation. if you can compare rather ripped with paris' album is with the songs and, whithin their own styles and history, paris' album has better songs than sy's latest.

rolling stone gave it three stars. i don't know what the fuck that means; i'm assuming it means you'll immediately experience seizures upon listening.

you read rolling stone?

ewwww!

EEEWWWWW, ROLLING THONE!!! thaths groth liwwy!

I went back and listened to that single you guys are all raving about..."Stars are Stupid Whores" or whatever its called...and I have to say Im not impressed...at all. The music is mediocre at best, the lyrics are laughable. How is this any different than Jessica Simpson, Mariah Carey, or whatever other female pop singers are out there? Why are you people so impressed by it?

Worse was the fact that I had to explain to my roommate why I was listening to Paris Hilton by telling him that I belong to a board with a bunch of members who obviously have shit taste in music.

And now I'll get a bunch of responses about how Im too closed minded and Im being an "indie music snob" just because I dont like listening to shit. Oh well.

i could give a dick who wrote it, so long as it sounds good.

your stupidity amazes me.

You know nothing about being an "indie music snob" it's totally cool and indie to listen to pop music as it's ironic and irony is soooooo indie. Pitchfork even said so.

Next you're going to say you don't even dig Amerie's "one thing"......

What amazes you more: my stupidity, or the new Paris Hilton album?

...and I'm not talking about Paris Hiltons new record specifically, I'm just saying that in general I don't give a dick if some whacko wrote it but isnt hot enough to sing it.

This thread is a fucking joke, surely.

You obviously still haven't noticed that post-irony started in 1997.That was the year when britpop went sour.These days that is such a thing of the past and i live in post-'who gives a toss what indie or not indie people think or have to say'.The term indie,in fact,is so last century.

Everyneurotic has said it all, I would shake his hand were he in front of me. Also, he is still writing better than people for whom English is their first language.

I don't care to compare RR to Paris. It's just not important.

I was going to write some things, but have elected to baulk.

Why someone who writes their own song has to be necessarily more credible than someone who doesn't?Where's that rule written and who has written it?